MBB: USA South Conference

[hoopshops]

Capt J,

I've seen both Porter & Sinclair and I know Sinclair is a better overall player. All I'm saying is that when any team loses their star player and team leader someone must fill the void and step up in order for the team to continue on the path that were on before.

[captj]

I hear you, hops.  It was just too tempting for me to pass that one up.

[captj]

You can't argue with 2297 points.  If Dixon (SU) put up those numbers he should definitely be 1st team.  With 8.6 assts/gm I assume he also played the point.  Is that right?  If so, does that push my guy Steve Artis down to 2nd team?  It would be a shame for 1977 points not to get you on the 1st team, but there's only room for one point guard.

Dixon's numbers are good, but he's no Lamont Strothers, who was the only D3 drafted into the NBA (at that time; maybe it's been done since).  Strothers has to be our 1st team two-guard.

I also want my guy James Boykins on 1st team in the post (1847 pts (16.5/gm), 1193 reb (10.7/gm), 247 blk (2.2/gm), 197 stls (1.8/gm).  Career double-double and a huge defender.

[cnu85]

Captj,

I see you are using my calender!! Actually, I think it has to do with the metric system or something like that.

[captj]

I think you're right, 85.  See you at the game on Tuesday.

[captj]

bspears –

I'm with you on Al White (92-96).  He's all over the SU record books.  20 points and 9 rebounds for a career is extremely impressive, and there aren't many teams that can trot out 2000 point career players.



I'll introduce our 1st team roster (to date).  If you have a nomination to replace someone on this team, tell us who and why.

Phil Dixon (SU) - 2297 pts (22.3/gm), 216 steals (2.1/gm) & 103 assists (8.6/gm)

Lamont Strothers (CNU) -   2709 pts (23.4/gm), 717 reb (6.2/gm), 286 stls (2.5/gm), 225 assts (1.9/gm)

Al White (SU) - 2001 pts (19.6/gm), 898 rebounds (8.8/gm), 190 steals (1.9/gm) & 108 blocks (1.1/gm)

James Boykins (CNU) – 1847 pts (16.5/gm), 1193 reb (10.7/gm), 247 blk (2.2/gm), 197 stls (1.8/gm)

Ted Berry (CNU) - 1352 pts over 3 years (20.8/gm); holds the USASAC/Dixie record for a single season scoring average (27.3/game)

Come on narch, your guys are being ignored. 

[captj]

Bspears – I noticed the "RIP" next to Al White in your post.  The CNU family lost James Boykins a few years ago.  How tragic is it that two on our all-time team are no longer with us?

[bspears]

Yes, it truly is ashame that we (Dixie/USA SOUTH) lost two good people way too soon.  I am not going to try and act like I knew Al personally, but I remember when I was a freshman knucklehead at open gym, he always spoke and seemed like a real cool person. 

All that aside, I would give Al a spot on 2nd team.  SU simply hasn't been dominant enough in the conference to have two people on first team.  Dixon definitely deserves a spot on first team as well as Strothers (DAMN!) & Boykins just by their stats.

R.I.P. White, Boykins & Tigney and anyone else we have lost in our conference. 

[captj]

bspears - If we get some activity on this board we'll get everyone to their appropriate team.

OK, I'm going to bump one of my own guys.  Since the Panthers are unrepresented on this board, I just went to the Ferrum website.  Everett Foxx averaged 27.0 per game the same year that my guy Ted Berry averaged 27.3, PLUS; he did it over a 4-year career for 2112 points.  The 1st team is now –

Phil Dixon (SU) - 2297 pts (22.3/gm), 216 steals (2.1/gm) & 103 assists (8.6/gm)

Lamont Strothers (CNU) -   2709 pts (23.4/gm), 717 reb (6.2/gm), 286 stls (2.5/gm), 225 assts (1.9/gm)

Al White (SU) - 2001 pts (19.6/gm), 898 rebounds (8.8/gm), 190 steals (1.9/gm) & 108 blocks (1.1/gm)

James Boykins (CNU) – 1847 pts (16.5/gm), 1193 reb (10.7/gm), 247 blk (2.2/gm), 197 stls (1.8/gm)

Everett Foxx (Ferrum) – 2112 career pts, 128 career blcks, 183 career stls



Ted Berry (CNU) to 2nd team

[captj]

he always spoke and seemed like a real cool person

I've noticed that, in life, people who are extraordinary in a couple of ways are usually extraordinary in MANY ways. 

[captj]

Do we want to put Marquis McDougald (NCW) on one of our teams?  He scored 1710 points in 3 years, but I don't see him anywhere else in their record books. 

That's all of the other "unrepresented" teams that I'm going to research.  The Mrs. is calling me for dinner, and besides, the double vodka marrtinni I hd urlier is waring off. 

GO CAPTAINS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cnu85]

Martini?  Yikes!!!! Giving us CNU public school folks a bad name....

Cold Beer - any plenty of it...

here's to you Mr. Grocery store produce puter upper!! Real men of genius!!

[leroy]

ballgame - wisconsin runs the "swing" offense...not sure how similar it is to the "flex" - it may, in fact, be the same thing, but wisc calls it the "swing"

Actually, the Swing is very different from the Flex.  The Flex (which most people know) is a screening offense.  Bob Knight re-popularized motion offense with screens and Dick Bennet made a blocker-mover screen popular.  That is probably what you are thinking about when you refer to "northern" offenses which rely mainly on screens.

The "Swing" (which Bo Ryan runs) is a offense that focuses on cuts, spacing, and reversing the ball.  In the swing, there is alot of movement from wing to wing (off screens of course).  It also provides the ability for all five players to be in a "true" motion.  Meaning that any player (1-5) will have post up and perimiter drive opportunities.  Wisconsin offen post ups gaurds (Think Devin Harris) to take advantage of match up problems.

In the swing, you really don't make the "flex" cuts (perimeter back screen and elbow to block screen) which define the flex.  The swing is a much more "modern offense" which has far less screening, allows for more isolation and post up opportunities.

Other than the fact that they are both 5 man motion offenses, the similarities may stop there.

BTW- Argentina used the flex when they gave Team USA it's first ever loss in international play.  It was amazing to see the NBA'ers baffled by the flex and it's diffent options.

[captj]

What a pity that the only post to our board over the last 36 hours is from a JV poster from outside of our conference schooling one of our members on the intricacies of the game.  Where is everyone? 

[ISoar]

If you want the board to be alive, just say something bad about wisconsin...