MBB: USA South Conference

[narch]

captj - we could always argue private vs. public 

[narch]

pat - interesting to see your alma mater pulling out of the cac (d3hoops.com front page article..."new conference formed")...also interesting to see su listed as a POSSIBLE addition to a re-configured cac (along with wesley, villa julie, frostburg and hood)...is this conjecture or fact?

not that i'm wishing them away, but i wonder if cnu has considered joining a conference that already includes 3 highly regarded public schools (mary wash, salisbury and saint mary's of md) as well as a private that acts public from a pricing standpoint (york) - even if frostburg and wesley were to join along with cnu or su, there would only be 5 football playing schools, but if both joined, they'd have 6...isn't that the magic number for an aq in football? does the provision mentioned in the article which might give a window for re-alignment without losing aq status apply for football, as well? would a re-configured cac be able to get an aq in football if they had enough members?

i hope that the usasac leadership has thought and is thinking about all of these possible scenarios and has contingency plans in case su and/or cnu were to leave

[cnufan]

I thought it was seven for an AQ in any sport?? I know women's lax is adding a seventh team this year, NCW, and that gives then an AQ.

[captj]

narch –

Welcome back, buddy.  I was beginning to think that we'd lost you. 

I know that you're not "wishing us away", but I do know that there have been others from this board (and football) that do wish that CNU would do just that... go to some other conference.  Every time I read that I am just amazed.  To me it smacks of wanting the pond to be a little smaller so that the remaining fishes would be a little bigger.  CNU has been, and I don't think that anyone will argue this, hugely successful in the USASAC / Dixie for a very long time, in all sports.  We have vastly improved the reputation of the conference as a whole.  Over on the football board there has been considerable talk about CNU's success causing everyone else in the conference to raise their own games a little bit (at least).  So I just can't understand why anyone would want us to leave the conference.  And don't tell me it is just a public / private school thing either.  D3 contains both.  Should ALL of the public schools form one Division and all of the private schools form another?  D3A and D3AA?  I don't think anyone wants that.  The reality is that, were CNU to leave the conference, the remaining conference would be greatly diminished in the eyes of just about the entire college athletic community.  But, I guess if one wanted to be a big fish in a little pond....

[narch]

narch –
I was beginning to think that we'd lost you. 

REALLY busy week or so...things should settle down for a daily post or 2, depending on what's being discussed

i totally agree with the rest of your statements, particularly about the perception of the conference were cnu to leave (even though the monarchs would CLEARLY become said "big fish") - the lady monarchs golf team wins a national championship EVERY year, and, sadly, it's just not that exciting anymore - if cnu left the usasac, there would be little competition left for the monarchs, and therefore, little excitement

i don't think it's LIKELY, but i could SEE where a re-configured cac might be attractive to cnu - umw, salisbury and saint mary's have OUTSTANDING academic reputations, as do the current members of the cac that are staying put...wesley and frostburg wouldn't necessarily help the academic reputation, but honestly, they aren't any worse than most of the usasac schools

goose - i think you're correct on 7 vs. 6

[cnufan]

I still dont think there would be enough schools for AQ status in every conference tho. Altho, I havent had a chance to break down each school and the sports they sponsor. I dont think there would be an AQ in football, Salisbury, CNU, Frostburg, Wesley would be the only ones.

[cnu85]

BTW- Argentina used the flex when they gave Team USA it's first ever loss in international play.  It was amazing to see the NBA'ers baffled by the flex and it's diffent options.

I thought the Russsians (oops Soviets)  beat us (with the help of a clock operator) in 1972!!

Damn - I'm so old I remember that game!!

[cnu85]

Captj,

Is theer a game tonight....? What time?

 

[mattgrubb]

you guys get ready, b/c maryville is sending a team to Averrett this weekend and it is not our football thank goodness, we are about to show the usasouth how the gsac rolls

[cnufan]

cnu85-
    I think the game starts at 530 tonight.

[Hampton U SID]

I hope that game is 730 tonight..or you might be missing  a shot clock guy

[cnufan]

shhhhhhhh we are messin with cnu85's head, and Im sure by now he's had several beers!!!

[narch]

you guys get ready, b/c maryville is sending a team to Averrett this weekend and it is not our football thank goodness, we are about to show the usasouth how the gsac rolls

mattgrubb - there aren't any averett posters here, but the monarchs already found out how m'ville rolls (pretty well, actually)

[leroy]

BTW- Argentina used the flex when they gave Team USA it's first ever loss in international play.  It was amazing to see the NBA'ers baffled by the flex and it's diffent options.

I thought the Russsians (oops Soviets)  beat us (with the help of a clock operator) in 1972!!

Damn - I'm so old I remember that game!!

You are right.  What I should've said was first ever loss in international play since professionals were allowed to play (1992). 

[captj]

Captj,

Is theer a game tonight....? What time?

 

The game's tomorrow night, 85.