MBB: USA South Conference

[captj]

Just for perspective, was McNair better than Antoine Sinclair?

on the perimeter......yes

Come on!  That's like saying Cousy was better than Chamberlain... on the perimeter.

I'm sorry guys; I just don't see McNair on the 1st tea.  I think that Antoine Sinclair deserves it more than McNair, but I'm not stumping to get him on the team.  But if you insist on knocking Al White off the team -

Antoine Sinclair; 1736 pts, 1031 reb, 181 blks, 136 stls, NCAA 1st Team All-American, NCAA 2nd Team All-American,

According to the Methodist website, McNair never made 1st team All-American.  Don't know about 2nd, 3rd, etc. because only first teamers are listed.  He never even won Conference Player of The Year. 

Here's the Monarch's dream(ing) team –

pg: Dixon (su)
2g: McNair (mc)
sf:  Strothers (cnu)
pf:  Boykins (cnu)
c:   Foxx (fc)

First of all; Boykins wasn't a true power forward, he just put up numbers like a great one.  He was 6-3.  This team would improve immensely like this –

pg: Dixon
2g: Strothers
sf:  Boykins
pf:  Al White (or) Antoine Sinclair
c:   Foxx

[captj]

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"and, for the record...getting lots of steals DOESN'T make you a great defender". Who said that, narch? I didn't. I said "players who accumulate lots of steals are NOT bad defenders". I don't think the distinction is that difficult to understand.

it's semantics, but there ARE players who accumulate lots of steals and ARE bad defenders - good team defense is about positioning, denying and forcing the other team out of what they want to do...steals CAN be a by-product of good defense, but i prefer to look at shooting % and turnovers forced when evaluating a defensive performance

It is not semantics.  Free your mind of prejudices just a moment and read what I said.

"players who accumulate lots of steals are NOT bad defenders"

I didn't say they were GOOD defenders, I merely said that the fact that they accumulated lots of steals doesn't make them a BAD defender, which is what 96 seemed to be implying.  That is nothing at all like saying that getting lots of steals makes you a great defender.

[Monarch96]

SINCLAIR, SINCLAIR, SINCLAIR. I forgot all about that monster.  He has got to be on the first team. Sorry Montrell but you and White are both second teamers. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you if they are trully trying to do an all-time team.

Capt J;
You are the reason I like logging on to this site, thanks for the debate.  My man Montrell could play with anyone though, ask CJ if he is among the best ever in this league.

Narch;
Thanks for the update. I hope Grant gets to play point this season, he did a great job last year and won alot in high school playing that postion.  He is a rock and hopefully that will get the Monarchs moving in the right direction.  I really like McDonald, that kid is going to be a killer in the USA South before he's finished.  Those seniors are warriors and they are gonna find a way to be successful this year.
 
Happy Holidays to all

[narch]

Just for perspective, was McNair better than Antoine Sinclair?

on the perimeter......yes

Come on!  That's like saying Cousy was better than Chamberlain... on the perimeter.

EXACTLY...they played different positions - here is the quote from my original post (below), which is why i gave a qualifier...c'mon, j...you're better than that

his senior year i thought he was the best perimeter player in the diac, hands down

i'm not campaigning for mcnair, because truthfully, i didn't see enough of the other guys, and their NUMBERS look better...but i guarantee you he's as good as any of them...he averaged nearly 22 ppg as a senior in a system that just doesn't produce big time scorers, and i'll bet he didn't take more than 14-16 shots per game

and it IS semantics...we are arguing the same point using different language, apparently

[captj]

EXACTLY...they played different positions -

I was just hoping you'd offer an opinion without qualifying it.  I don't think that two players have to have played the same position for one to say that one was a better basketball player than the other.  Like this; Michael Jordan was better than Karl Malone.

[captj]

Capt J;
You are the reason I like logging on to this site, thanks for the debate. 

Thanks yourself.  I've said this before; it's a forum for discussion, not conversation.

[captj]

Blasingame is going to be a solid player.  He reminds me so much of another freshman named Mark that would still be on our team this year if we hadn't lost our Leisure Studies program.  I think he even wears the same number.

I was wrong about that... Hepner wore #52.  But Blasingame should feel proud in the #50; it's been worn by Terry Gray, Terry Thomas, and Coach Waters.

[captj]

narch –

Break out of that funk, buddy.  I have never seen you this quiet/inactive on the board.  I know that a five game losing streak (with a game at VaWes next on the schedule) will do that to a guy, but there are a lot of hoops left this season.  I hope you're so quiet because you're out doing last minute shopping.

To everyone out there I wish you all a Merry Christmas or Hanukah or Kwanza or any other event you celebrate.  I have family arriving today at the CaptJ household for our Christmas celebration, so I'm going to be OOC for a day or so.

Good health and fortune to you all!

[narch]

narch –Break out of that funk, buddy. 

umm...it's christmas and fantasy football finals (which i won for the first time ever)...oh, and there are no games being played and nothing really interesting to discuss

i heard a rumor that there would be a usasac/odac senior game after the season...can't get confirmation, but that would be an interesting match-up

let's put together the usasac team - i nominate thomas and grant

[captj]

i heard a rumor that there would be a usasac/odac senior game after the season...can't get confirmation, but that would be an interesting match-up

let's put together the usasac team - i nominate thomas and grant

Wow, that would be great (at least for the hosting school).

Since we'll need 10-12 guys I'll nominate Romeo and Lewis, but they'll have to start playing up to their potential for them to get off the bench. 

[cnufan]

Hey captj, if its a senior game, Lewis cant play, he's only a junior!!

[Pat Coleman]

And if it's not a senior game, then any non-senior risks losing a year of eligibility to play.

[captj]

Hey captj, if its a senior game, Lewis cant play, he's only a junior!!

Duh!  Too much Jack Daniels, too little eggnog.

Don't let him play... we want him eligible next year (thanks, Pat).

[captj]

Goose -

Any Christmas presents this year?  Maybe a 6-9, 250 pound clone of Shelden Williams transferring in this semester?

By the way... what's up with Matt Coleman? 

[captj]

Speaking of Duke... I made some comments a week or so ago about depth.  I said that the Captains seem to have found their 8-deep mix of players, and noted that we played pretty well against Lincoln in a 45 minute game using only six.  Depth is important of course, but check out the Duke stats.  They have 7 guys averaging more than 20 minutes per game, one about 9, and no one else with more than 4.  Not exactly what you'd call a deep lineup, but it is definitely working for them.  This isn't the NBA; wearing down over a 25-30 game season shouldn't happen to these young guys.  I like our 8-player rotation a lot.