MBB: USA South Conference

narch · February 07, 2009, 05:38:59 PM

the monarchs were down 10 with 1:26 left and have cut the lead to 3 with :36 left - connor has 10 11 blocks on the day...meadows has 19 on 5-7 shooting from downtown

fc misses both ft's, but get an offensive board, connnor gets his 11th block, but fc gets the ball back and has it with :30 left and a 3 point lead

crump hits both ft's to push the fc lead to 5 with :28 left

monarchs can't pull it out...a horrible first half did them in, as did allowing fc to shoot 53% (while shooting 35%)

connor sets the mu single game block record with 11, and in the process sets the single season mark with 103 (and counting)

and i forgot to post this...lehmann named to academic all-district team

nice win for the hornets...not to take anything away from su, but is there a team that underacheives year after year more than ncwc? that team has too much veteran talent to be 3-4 in conference

SU97 · February 07, 2009, 06:55:08 PM

Let me say this - tonight was the first time I've seen this hornet squad play hard for 40 minutes and I hope they can rebound from this.

My parents always said if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all... so I'm not going to talk about the officiating in the strangest ending to an otherwise well fought game. What I don't understand is how, with less than a second on the clock, the Hornets got hosed like they did tonight.

narch · February 07, 2009, 11:05:27 PM

Quote from: SU97 on February 07, 2009, 06:55:08 PM
Let me say this - tonight was the first time I've seen this hornet squad play hard for 40 minutes and I hope they can rebound from this.

My parents always said if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all... so I'm not going to talk about the officiating in the strangest ending to an otherwise well fought game. What I don't understand is how, with less than a second on the clock, the Hornets got hosed like they did tonight.

gotta give me the scoop - live stats showed that as an 88-85 final for su, then i log on this evening to see ncwc wins in ot...what tha...

just read the game story...sounds like some anti home-cookin' - how does ncwc get a layup with .8 seconds left???

CNU85 · February 08, 2009, 01:34:27 AM

I was wondering what you were talking about Narch. I saw NCW score and was confused as to why you were congratulating SU......I figured it was lack of sleep, cheap alcohol, or both.

SU97 - give us the scoop. Sounds like the 1972 Olympics! Haha...were any of you even born then?

hasanova · February 08, 2009, 03:28:31 PM

Quote from: CNU85 on February 08, 2009, 01:34:27 AM
I was wondering what you were talking about Narch. I saw NCW score and was confused as to why you were congratulating SU......I figured it was lack of sleep, cheap alcohol, or both.

SU97 - give us the scoop. Sounds like the 1972 Olympics! Haha...were any of you even born then?

Yes. lol Of course, the Russians got three chances!

narch · February 08, 2009, 08:45:31 PM

Quote from: CNU85 on February 08, 2009, 01:34:27 AMSounds like the 1972 Olympics! Haha...were any of you even born then?

barely...and i'm old...that makes you a fossil, dude

SU97 · February 08, 2009, 10:14:04 PM

Quote from: narch on February 07, 2009, 11:05:27 PM
just read the game story...sounds like some anti home-cookin' - how does ncwc get a layup with .8 seconds left???

Bizarre.

SU97 · February 08, 2009, 10:17:20 PM

That's the only word that comes to mind. What a bizarre ending.

Here's the game story info to get you guys up to speed:

Leading 87-82 with 30 seconds remaining in regulation following a pair of Wayne Washington free throws, Shenandoah could only watch as Wesleyan made an improbable comeback.

The Bishops cut the deficit to three with eight seconds left on a Jarmel Arrington three-pointer from 25-feet out. Arrington's shot came after his club missed four shots prior; Shenandoah's Kenny Robertson got the third rebound, fell and was called for traveling to give the ball back to NCWC.

Wesleyan immediated fouled on the in-bounds play, and Robertson hit the second of two to give the Hornets an 88-85 lead.

The Bishops advanced the ball into the frontcourt on the ensuing possession, where Robertson was whistled for a foul on Trey Drake with .8 left.

Drake, who was originally awarded two foul shots and then changed to three, missed the first attempt.

After making the second, he missed the third intentionally.

Shenandoah's Kevin Kline got a hand on the missed shot, seemingly sealing the win for SU.

Except that the game-clock never started, which gave NCWC one last chance.

Drake made the most of the opportunity as he got the ball into Buddy Williams under the basket, where Williams laid it in for the game-tying bucket.

SU97 · February 08, 2009, 10:29:13 PM

It was crazy, a rollercoaster:

1) What looked like a foul on the floor, morphed into a shooting foul for 2, then magically became a 3 shot foul (head referee was overturned?).

2) Drake missed his first shot... crazy - we might win this one!

3) Drake drains the second free throw. (.8 ticks on the clock)

4) Drake misses the third on purpose and Kline gets a hand on it and throws it to the floor (in-bounds) and it bounces up to the middle of the wall.

5) Refs do a little huddle and decide nothing.

6) NCWC inbounds to a guy running free in the lane and somehow catches and lays it up in less than a second.

Hornets deflated and NCWC easily runs through the OT for the win.

Bizarre.

The last time I was that stunned in Shingleton was when ALZIMA opened for the SU-CNU game a couple years ago. lol I remember the look on CJ's face - I think they only sent 4 guys out for tip-off!

Dirtybird · February 09, 2009, 06:20:57 PM

That was a crazy game and congrats to NCWC for a great win. I look forward to seeing what they can do for the rest of the year.

narch · February 09, 2009, 09:03:21 PM

Quote from: SU97 on February 08, 2009, 10:29:13 PM
4) Drake misses the third on purpose and Kline gets a hand on it and throws it to the floor (in-bounds) and it bounces up to the middle of the wall.

5) Refs do a little huddle and decide nothing.

sounds like the hornets got jobbed...i'm usually the first to say that officiating rarely determines the outcome of a game, but if this account is true, they did...i hope the conference looks into this and that the officials are reprimanded if it is determined that they were in the wrong

CNU85 · February 09, 2009, 09:44:32 PM

Quote from: SU97 on February 08, 2009, 10:29:13 PM

The last time I was that stunned in Shingleton was when ALZIMA opened for the SU-CNU game a couple years ago. lol I remember the look on CJ's face - I think they only sent 4 guys out for tip-off!

Give me 2 days notice if Alzima opens another game so I can make the trip!

CNU85 · February 10, 2009, 03:00:33 PM

Go "MONARTCHES!!!"

HAHA - Narch knows what I mean!

GuyFormerlyPSBBG · February 10, 2009, 03:35:39 PM

I only have one thing to say, why can't there be one team on the men's side that can remain as to be the "perennial team to beat"

2008-09 (current)

Christopher Newport. 6-1

2007-08
Methodist........... 8-4 Ferrum.............. 8-4

2006-07
Greensboro.......... 9-3 Averett............. 9-3

2006-05
Chris. Newport...... 9-3 Averett............. 9-3

2005-04
Methodist........... 10-2

I believe the USASouth is unique when it comes to "consistency" at the top of the conference. (I couldn't think of a better word)

In some respects it will be rare for the USASouth to ever get more than one team into the NCAA tournament. It appears that winning the conference tournament is more important than winning the regular season title.

narch · February 10, 2009, 04:55:37 PM

Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on February 10, 2009, 03:35:39 PM
I only have one thing to say, why can't there be one team on the men's side that can remain as to be the "perennial team to beat"

2008-09 (current)

Christopher Newport. 6-1

2007-08
Methodist........... 8-4 Ferrum.............. 8-4

2006-07
Greensboro.......... 9-3 Averett............. 9-3

2006-05
Chris. Newport...... 9-3 Averett............. 9-3

2005-04
Methodist........... 10-2

I believe the USASouth is unique when it comes to "consistency" at the top of the conference. (I couldn't think of a better word)

In some respects it will be rare for the USASouth to ever get more than one team into the NCAA tournament. It appears that winning the conference tournament is more important than winning the regular season title.

welcome back psbbg!

interestingly enough, if you had gone back 2 additional seasons (02-03 and 03-04), you might have seen more of a trend developing (hint...mu won the regular season and conference tourney in both of those years

) - mu winning the regular season 4 of the last 6 years is pretty consistent, i think (of course, cnu won 5 in 5 years from 97-98 - 02-03, and that was pretty consistent, too)