MBB: USA South Conference

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usasouth50

Makes no sense how CNU is a 5-7 team.  I have not seen Methodist at all this year but judging by an 0-11 start, that worries me lol  Greensboro somehow wins, Averett only has Kenny Hart, Ferrum is up n down especially without Krump and at times Mitchell.  NC Wesleyan can get hot as we all know..i heard Shenandoah didnt play bad, ncw just hit some incredible shots and shot lights out in the 2nd half according to the box score. once again, another team with no answer for Kline (10-11 shooting, 7-9 from the line, 27 pts, 8 boards) who's gonna step up and play along with him cuz #0 shot 4-15 last game, why???? beats me. 

cnububba

Went to Ashland with a couple of friends to watch RMC-CNU yesterday.  Great atmosphere and RMC is good, very good.  Deep, big and athletic, especially their wing Brown.   If CNU could have made a couple of shots from outside it might have been "more" interesting.   Big stats for me were shooting %; CNU-38.8/RMC-54 and assists CNU-9/RMC-17. 

I totally disagree with giving Parham the keys to the car, by a LONG shot.  While he is "potentially" the future of CNU, he is "WAY" too erratic.  He has to lose the "get mine" attitude and run the doggone offense.  CJs giving him PLENTY of opportunities to "man up."  Kudos to Hector, he did a nice job off the bench running the point. I don't know what the heck to say about the 2's and 3's.  Capin and Taylor can score but both have a tough time with athletic defenders.   Russell is streaky of late, but still very athletic.  I still like Theo; he plays hard at both ends and played very well yesterday.   Our 4s, dunno.  Green can score and has a lot of energy.  But he cannot play defense and doesn't block out.  RMC's size definitely hurt him.  Hermann's is a tough athletic kid, but he settles too much for the outside shot.  Take it to the whole Brian!  Matt Preston always gives solid minutes.  Excellent defensive player and "blocks" out.   B'game had a solid game and they finally made a concerted effort to get him the ball in the second half.  He posts up fine.  Several times he pinned his defensive player, but when the ball swings from the wing to the point they NEVER, EVER look down.  Also, the 4's consistently shoot from 15' why doesn't our 5?  That's the one part of his game I thought CJ would expand to help free him up.   

We looked tired at the end of the game, when it was still somewhat a game.  Matador defense on the perimeter left the inside guys hanging out to dry.   And they were too tired to react.  Not in shape possibly?"The old guard isn't getting it done?"  Who is the old guard?  Only two guys that started from last year are Mark and Mike.   We're 0-1 in conference.  With a few favorable bounces this year we could easily be 8-4, maybe even 9-3.  I'm not quite ready to throw the team under the bus.  I think we'll have a pretty good idea where this team is going after next weekend.  Keep fightin' guys.  Go CAPS. 

Hooper4Life

Point well taken! The problem happens to be the fact that RMC was the only team playing inside out basketball.The game is very simple,you pass the ball inside and when they try to double down you kick it back out.Mark and Russell as regular starters are the only ones that understand this concept!You have your Freshman point guard that does not know who,when and where to pass the ball to let alone when to shoot.If that type of play is the future CNU is in trouble.Their was a lot of selfish play going on in that game and it showed.You had a couple of players that passed the ball to their teamates in a timely fashion and the rest were clueless.The end result is a loss that could have easily been a win.There are those that play the game,those that know how to play the game and then there are those that know how to win.Which ones you put on the floor will determine the end result.

hasanova

Quote from: cnububba on January 10, 2010, 04:59:38 PMTake it to the whole Brian!
narch, this is your home room, so I'm going to let you handle this.  Please, no holds barred!  On the whole, it's an uncontested lay-up all the way to the hole.  :)

On a more serious note, this is not what we've come to expect from CNU.  Someone's going to win the USASAC, of course, but no team seems to be stepping up as the dominant team at the moment.

CaptJ

Quote from: hasanova on January 10, 2010, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: cnububba on January 10, 2010, 04:59:38 PMOn a more serious note, this is not what we've come to expect from CNU. 

That's the point I've been trying to make again and again. 
National champions 2022/23

CaptJ

Quote from: CNUHoops2010 on January 10, 2010, 12:25:03 PM
This CNU team is in trouble right now.  No cohesion.  Too many guys pouting when they come off the floor.  Lots of one on one play on the court.  RMC appeared to be one of the most unselfish basketball teams I have seen. 

Xavier is the only guard that can penetrate with his dribble and create openings.  RMC killed the Captains consistently on dribble drives and kick outs for wide open shots. 


Taylor is also very adept at driving to the basket.  In his rookie year he was amazing at times.  I'm not sure if he has the vision to kick it out when he does though.
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HornetFan4Life

Quote from: usasouth50 on January 10, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
Makes no sense how CNU is a 5-7 team.  I have not seen Methodist at all this year but judging by an 0-11 start, that worries me lol  Greensboro somehow wins, Averett only has Kenny Hart, Ferrum is up n down especially without Krump and at times Mitchell.  NC Wesleyan can get hot as we all know..i heard Shenandoah didnt play bad, ncw just hit some incredible shots and shot lights out in the 2nd half according to the box score. once again, another team with no answer for Kline (10-11 shooting, 7-9 from the line, 27 pts, 8 boards) who's gonna step up and play along with him cuz #0 shot 4-15 last game, why???? beats me. 


Kline did have a another great game but it looks like NC Wes shot the lights out. But how can you say "Whos gonna play with him" then knock #0 for shooting the ball? I think SU is in good shape for conference play

cnububba

Taylor actually did a very good job of getting to the basket against RMC as he has against most teams this year.  He had a hard time finishing against their height and athleticism.   One thing for sure, I'd never question the kids toughness. 

Good point hoop, I'm not sure we have the "will" or "know we're gonna win" tude when we step on the court.   We've lost so many close games maybe we're playing not to lose.  I don't know, but bet CJ's been drinking a lot of Maalox or Jack D of late.

Hooper4Life

Remember what happened in the game against Mary Bible College when CNU was playing without  Going and Xavier? Russell went to the point guard position and they went on a 20-2 run in the first half.If I recall correctly they won 101-56,largest margin of victory in 4 years. How soon we tend to forget,I think Hector had 7 assists in that game as well.Russell went 7-8 with 5 threes in a row in the second half.I wonder what was so succesful in that game that can not be duplicated at this point and time.Paul,Hector or Russell can get it done at point guard,but Xavier is killing the team with his decision making.Mike Greene can only go right and will not kick it back out,with 1,2,or 3 people around him.Mark needs help on  both ends of the floor in the paint while he is in the game.Maybe this game is more complicated than I thought.So much for Xavier being the only guard that can drive and kick it back out.

D-BAT

Current standings:
1-0    6-6 Greensboro     
1-0    5-8 N.C. Wesleyan    
1-1    7-7 Ferrum    
1-1    4-9 Averett    
1-1    4-10 Shenandoah
0-1    5-7 Chris. Newport
0-1    0-11 Methodist

I see it finishing up like this ...

1-NCW
2-Ferrum
3-Greensboro
4-CNU
5-SU
6-Averett
7-Methodist

donho

 Hooper4life , you know nothing about b-ball if you think CNU as you put it "just as easily could have been a win"   at R-MC. You must have been in a different gym watching a different game. Then in talking about playing Maryland Bible you try to compare them to a b-ball team. Come on man ! You double up on a team and want to compare Maryland Bible to R-MC. Better start watching another sport.

hasanova

Quote from: CaptJ on January 10, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: hasanova on January 10, 2010, 05:14:08 PM
On a more serious note, this is not what we've come to expect from CNU. 
That's the point I've been trying to make again and again. 
And I've heard you loud and clear, CaptJ!

hasanova

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Quote from: donho on January 10, 2010, 09:07:15 PM
Hooper4life , you know nothing about b-ball if you think CNU as you put it "just as easily could have been a win"   at R-MC. You must have been in a different gym watching a different game. Then in talking about playing Maryland Bible you try to compare them to a b-ball team. Come on man ! You double up on a team and want to compare Maryland Bible to R-MC. Better start watching another sport.
When donho speaks, tiny bubbles fly.  From what I've read here and in the boxscore, the RMC contest didn't seem like a game CNU ever had a real chance to win.  And although Maryland Bible shocked the Captains in recent memory, that was an opponent over which even a .500 USASAC or ODAC team should romp with relative ease.  donho's strumming the right ukulele!

Hooper4Life

Some people talk the game and some people have played the game.Based on your statements I can tell the difference.If UNC could lose a recent game as well as Kansas tonight losing to Tennesee with walk-ons..........I think it is safe to say one of us is way off base.....Frankly I rest my case....hang tough one day you will truly understand the merits of this simple game.I was at the game and understood the positive and negative aspects that influenced the game.I tend to speak based on facts not from an emotional standpoint.You missed a very important point in the previous topic,it was not who CNU was playing but the lineup that mattered.That is next level basketball in case you did not understand!Anyone that has ever truly played and not just run up and down the floor understands this simple concept.Those that have studied the game know this as well.Please accept my humble apologies.........

usasouth50

I see it finishing up like this ...

1-NCW
2-CNU
3-SU
4-Ferrum
5-Greensboro
6-Averett
7-Methodist

POTY:  Trey Drake
ROTY:  Chakiris Moss

1st team:
Drake, Stokes, Mitchell, Kline, Green