MBB: USA South Conference

[ISoar]

Monarchs look ok in the first couple of games.   The word is Mike Mac had a bunch of blocks, and from what I can tell Seth looked like a beast.  Haven't seen too many stats yet.   
In the Sewanee game MethCo shot 53.9% (41 of 76), but got out rebounded 54-41.  Hopefully we'll see a rebound in a few days with a pair of Emory & Henry Invitational wins.

[captj]

What's this, a new Methodist poster?!  Welcome to the board.

[narch]

isoar - welcome aboard...not sure about that name though...i don't recall EVER seeing you soar

losing to sewanee is not a great way to start things out...defensively, mc didn't come to play - i've gotta see the box scores to figure some things out, but sewanee was not a great team last year...that's not a good loss, in my books, especially when you've got the #3 ranked team in the nation and (potentially) the homestanding wasps who run "the system", something the monarchs have never played against, THEN a d1 tilt with app state looming on the horizon - this could be a 1-3 start if the monarchs don't figure some things out

[captj]

narch –

I see your concern.  Sewanee was just 12-15 last year and lost a 1000 point scorer from that team.  But there are a bazillion reasons why a team might lose a game (especially away games), and tough losses are no guarantee of future failure.  They will shake it off.

[captj]

narch -

What's your concern with ISoar's handle?  Should it be "rockhops"?

[captj]

Or should it be "eyesore"?  Ugly dude?

[snowbird]

I was at the Sewanee game...really excited about the victory. I stuck my head in the USAC to see if ther was any buzz. Methodist got a lot of layups off the Sewanee press(thus the high % shooting). I was really surprised by the rebound margin...it didn't seen that lopsided. Methodist seemed flat the 1st half, but shot trey real well in the 2nd half. Refs seemed to let Sewanee get away with alot of hand checking & hacking early on, but tightened up later. Overall the way the game was "called" seemed to help Sewanee.In conclusion Sewanee is due a good year...they have 5 guys back that started some games last year(3 jrs that started as freshman). They came on strong late last year & made a good showing in the tournament. Also they were missing the starting point guard against Methodist.   P.S. I'm new to D3Hoops..ain't it great?

[ISoar]

Nobody likes the handle?  Hmm.  I just thought it was clever, but uh, I think I led the team in dunks one year. 

Captj: Thanks for the welcome.  I think its about time the back to back to back, champs had more than one poster.  Oh, and speaking of posters and my handle, I think your guy Roderic Carey is on one of my Posters.  ...rockhops....eyesore.... *mumble*   

Narch: I agree, not a good loss, but what is?  A Methodist team that needs to figure itself out... who knew?


On the bright side a lot of guys getting min means a lot of options and possibilities.  Fred Mac looks pretty solid.  Drag shot well.  Mike Mac clogged up the middle.  Seth played well.

The dark side of things.  Marcus still can't hit his fts.  B Will had a bunch of to's.  Gene had an off shooting night.  We need to rebound better.  We need an inside threat on O (only so many people can stand around the arc). 

For the upcoming games, Our d has always been suspect against good half-court teams.  (See maryville.)   Hopefully this will be the year to change it.  Personally I'm looking forward to them.

Taking a few losses at the start of the season isn't as bad as taking them at the end.  We'll bounce back.   We just have to work that much harder now.

[narch]

isoar - it's definately clever...keep it - i was just giving you a hard time - GREAT points, all of them...couldn't have said it better - i like the assist/to ratio for hairston, too (13/3) - college of wooster is a HUGE test...let's see how the monarchs handle this - if i remember correct, su played cow to a 1 point game last year, so anything can happen - wins on friday and saturday would erase any uneasy feelings for me

sewanee box

maritime box

[captj]

Hello Bryan Booth –

Once more we have a new poster who doesn't know that his profile contains pretty irrefutable proof of his identity.  It's nice to put things in perspective, and it will be nice having a former player here as well. 

However, nothing one says on this board escapes scrutiny, as you will soon find out.  So let's see... "Marcus still can't hit his fts".   Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  You hit less than 45% of your freethrows last year, dude!  But I do remember that you're a pretty good player, even if a little foul-prone.

"I think its about time the back to back to back, champs had more than one poster."  OK, I see that (like narch) you have a very selective memory.  Let me remind you guys that in 02-03 Methodist and CNU were co-champions in the regular season and that CNU WON THE CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT AND WENT TO THE NCAA PLAYOFFS THAT YEAR!!!!!  No banner for Methodist that year.  So let's just lay off the "3-time champ" and the "back to back to back" drivel. 

Once again; welcome to the board. 

[narch]

"I think its about time the back to back to back, champs had more than one poster."  OK, I see that (like narch) you have a very selective memory.  Let me remind you guys that in 02-03 Methodist and CNU were co-champions in the regular season and that CNU WON THE CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT AND WENT TO THE NCAA PLAYOFFS THAT YEAR!!!!!  No banner for Methodist that year.  So let's just lay off the "3-time champ" and the "back to back to back" drivel. 

captj - in that case, cnu hasn't won a single football championship, either, since all of the usasac championships have been co-championships, right?  co-champions are still champions, my friend, just ask the conference website

[captj]

Take it to the football board, narch.

[narch]

captj - i've got the 2004 cnu media guide in front of me...funny, on page 68 it lists cnu's co-championship seasons as championships...interesting to see that cnu considers those championships, as well

[cnufan]

What would you like them listed as narch?? Considering there is no tournament in football. Any ideas??

[captj]

narch

Here is the most applicable part of the Merriam-Webster definition of champion – "a winner of first prize or first place in competition".  I don't see anything about ties or co-champions, so I guess we need to come up with something ourselves.  If it were clear we wouldn't be having this discussion.

My own opinion is that when two teams end up tied in their conference and one wins a tie-breaker against the other "co-champion", that team is the real champion.  You are THE champion if you go to the dance, it's as simple as that.  Since you brought up football, by MY criteria the Panthers were the real champions in USASAC football this year (not Methodist) and CNU (not Methodist) was the Dixie basketball champion in 02-03. 

Keep in mind that this is just one man's opinion and I didn't crown anyone, nor did I write any media guide or other marketing products.