MBB: USA South Conference

[captj]

uniform...i saw him running out of the gym with a green uni on (everyone else had a yellow uni on) and about 20 minutes later he came back in with the same uniform as the rest of the team

Who was it in the Super Bowl that took so much heat for not being able to find his helmet?  Thurman Thomas for the Bills?  Uh... how many Super Bowls did the Bills win?

Twenty minutes into the game?!

[captj]

Speaking of 1000 point scorers... CNU is about to celebrate another member of the club.  Jeremy Romeo is about 3 or 4 games away from the milestone.  Jeremy is one of the most pure shooters I've ever seen in the Freeman Center (and a great defender), and although I've been hard on him for not performing to the often unrealistic expectations that CNU fans have placed on him, I predict that more than a couple of the points that bring him closer to the milestone will also bring about the demise of CNU opponents.  With some players I am a little bit apprehensive when they launch a shot, but when Jeremy takes a shot I EXPECT it to go in.  Fire away, Jeremy.

[cnufan]

captj-
   At the rate Romeo is going, it could be a while before he gets the final 57 points he needs to reach 1,000 for his career!!

[captj]

captj-
   At the rate Romeo is going, it could be a while before he gets the final 57 points he needs to reach 1,000 for his career!!

Booo!  Hisss!  Oh ye of little faith!  I think Jeremy is about to go off on the USASAC teams we play.  He's far too good a shooter not to.  Four games max.

[Monarch96]

Not giving up on the season, the thought just crossed my mind. I too think the monarchs have enough talent to compete for the title this year and hopefully they will step up and get it done.

Back to narchs statement about the difference between division I and division II. I can only base this on the teams that I've seen. I've seen the last two division II national champions personally and they were very athletic teams and I haven't seen any team at the division III level that could have competed with those guys. I have never seen the division III champion though so to be honest I couldn't compare.  In this region if you break it down by state it gets a little easier to compare. The really good DII's Mt. Olive, Queens, Pfeiffer, JC Smith, St. Augs, Catawba.  probably wouldn't have a problem with the dIII's in this state.  Simply because across the board they have more talent and are well coached.  There are some DII's that do well with great coaching and effort that some of the DIII's (Guilford, Methodist in a good year, NCW in a good year) could compete with like Barton, Lenoir Rhyne, WSSU.  I think alot of the better DIII's in virginia CNU, Hampton Sydney, Va Weslyan, etc. could compete with the DII's up there with the exception of Va. Union (last years national champ).  The other dII's up there for the most part have athletes, but lack fundamentals.  When you go south, I'm not aware of any DIII's in SC. Then when you hit Ga. and Florida it's not even close. 1st their are limited DIII's down there and 2nd those DII's play a very high level of basketball and some could compete in alot of the DI conferences (ex: Kennesaw State 2004 division II national champ is playing it's first year of DI and is 1st place in their conference Atlantic Sun). 

I'm sure I will get alot of feedback from such a long post so let the debates begin

[captj]

I don't think that you'll get too much debate since the teams that might be offended (the DII schools) aren't even going to see the post.  Maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that most of us on this board (myself included) have NO CLUE about the DII programs and their competitiveness or superiority over DIII schools.  I have no desire to follow teams that aren't competing against CNU.

[cnufan]

uniform...i saw him running out of the gym with a green uni on (everyone else had a yellow uni on) and about 20 minutes later he came back in with the same uniform as the rest of the team

What?? Are you kidding me?? How can you have on a green uniform at home?? Ive never heard that. How can a player make that mistake?? I know he's not 18, right? But I just cant believe that a player, playing at home, would go out there with a green uniform on and then not return until late in the first half, hearing this from someone who was in attendance.

[narch]

The really good DII's Mt. Olive, Queens, Pfeiffer, JC Smith, St. Augs, Catawba.  probably wouldn't have a problem with the dIII's in this state.  Simply because across the board they have more talent and are well coached.  There are some DII's that do well with great coaching and effort that some of the DIII's (Guilford, Methodist in a good year, NCW in a good year) could compete with like Barton, Lenoir Rhyne, WSSU.

96 - the list of not-so-good d2's in nc is at least as long as the list of good programs - no question in my mind that the upper tier of the usasac would be competetive if they played chowan, ecsu, barton (most years...they're pretty good this year at 12-1), uncp, st. andrews,  shaw, nccu, fsu, and mars hill - i'm not saying any usasac would win this make-believe conference (although it could happen), but a team like cnu or averett or mc or ncwc wouldn't finish last in this conference, either

the monarchs have scrimmaged teams like uncp, barton and sapc and faired VERY WELL, and we know the monarchs can beat fsu ...if i'm not mistaken, fsu won the west division of the ciaa the season the monarchs beat them (but i could be wrong)

[narch]

What?? Are you kidding me?? How can you have on a green uniform at home?? Ive never heard that. How can a player make that mistake?? I know he's not 18, right? But I just cant believe that a player, playing at home, would go out there with a green uniform on and then not return until late in the first half, hearing this from someone who was in attendance.

goose, you don't NEED to believe it, but i have no reason to fabricate that story...i saw the dude wearing a green uniform in warm-ups, then i saw him run out of the gym and come back about 6-8 minutes into the first half with a gold uniform on - there may have been other reasons that i'm not aware of which lead to his not being on the bench and in the proper uniform, but i have no reason to believe it's anything other than what it appears...a player came to the gym wearing the wrong uniform (or put on the wrong uniform when he got to the gym, or in some other way had the wrong uniform on )

i don't want to harp on shuford, but i did notice something else that i thought was peculiar, and monarch96, i'd love to get your take as a former 2 sport athlete (right?) - at halftime, the fall all-conference performers and conference champions (or co-champs ) were recognized - shuford was both a 2nd team all-conference performer and a co-champion as a db for the football team - he spent the ENTIRE half-time break on the court with the football team, rather than in the locker room with his hoops teammates - it struck me as odd that he wouldn't be in the locker room at halftime of a close conference game, getting coaching and instruction from the basketball coach - i'm sure his football teammates would have understood why he wasn't with them had he done this - i'm sure coach smith was aware of this situation and gave the ok, and i'm not being critical of him or shuford, i just found it a bit odd and interesting

[bspears]

What the h*ll are wrong with my Hornets!?

[cnufan]

I was wondering where you were hiding?? You and rumple have been awwwwful quiet this year.

[cnufan]

Ooook narch. Thanks for helping me out there.

[Monarch96]

I agree narch the good USA South teams could definitely compete with the middle of the pack to bottom level dII's.

The shuford thing is very interesting, both wearing the wrong uniform and not being with the team at half time.  I'm only guessing, but he probably wasn't with the team prior to the game, being that he had on the wrong uniform to begin.  This means not only did he miss the half time adjustments, he also missed the pre-game talk.  I love the fact that the kid wants to do two sports, but when in season for one, that one sport should be his priority.  I think the hardest part of doing two sports, especailly in college is that you have two totally different sets of teammates.  The student athlete try to figure out which group does he belong to.  I think it's easier to do in high school because alot of athletes play multi sports in high school. In college don't see it as much and don't have anyone to pattern your behavior after.  It has got to be especially hard for this young man going from a winning team to a losing team.

Go Monarchs let's get these next two.

[bspears]

Sorry Goose, at least I didn't show up only after that 8-2 start...lol...and came after a current 4 game losing streak...OUCH!!!!!  I will be more active though the rest of the season starting with this weekend!   I am driving down from the hood (Bethesda/Chevy Chase) to Wicked Winchester and catching my boys in action.  Do you think they will welcome me with 2 W's or will I report back with the answer to my own question?  3 game winning streak starts tonight with Hood!



P.S.  Someone who has been more MIA then me...Swoosh3, where is my homeboy hiding @?

[cnufan]

Another heartbreaker for SU. Drop a one point decision to Hood at home on a free throw.