MBB: USA South Conference

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Ok haha who did I anger this time to send my karma down further.  I was hoping to get it back to zero by the time basketball season rolls around haha.  Then send it back down.

Like I said I don't know what it is either way.  You are welcome for the numbers.  In that search I had no idea the RMC women's team beat SU of USASAC by only 7 in a 98-91 game in 04-05.  Collegeboard.com is getting back to me on those numbers about in-state vs out of state students at schools. This brings me to interesting point that I want to bring up. 

Hall of Fame requirements for GC.  Is this the norm or really tough requirements across the board at all D-III (Note GC's 94-95 mens team made it this year or the team that made it to the Elite 8)

Primary Hall of Fame Selection Criteria

v   graduate of Greensboro College

v   earned All-America (or highest level of distinction for sport) honors at least twice

v   earned All-Region, All-District or similar distinction at least twice

v   earned All-Conference honors for his/her sport at least twice

v   demonstrated involvement in extracurricular activity within the Greensboro College or greater community

v   demonstrated recognizable sportsmanship and represented the Greensboro College athletic program with a high degree of class and integrity before, during, and after competition

v   was never suspended from Greensboro College for behavior unbecoming of a member of the College community

[hasanova]

I can't comment on how tough Greensboro's Hall of Fame criteria are compared to other (especially DIII) schools.  Personally, I think it ought to be tough.  If it isn't, after 50 or 60 years there aren't any jersey numbers available - they're all hanging from the rafters!  lol  Seriously, very few athletes receive lofty accolades all four years, but I do think it's reasonable to expect them to have won some major competition-based awards at least two of their four years in competition.  Otherwise, it becomes like Little League with a "Certificate of Participation" for just showing up.

PS I'm not zinging your karma, so I'm not sure what's up with that.  I'll give you one to get you closer to nil.  lol

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

The reason I ask is bridgewater is inducting one of my high school teachers into their hall of fame this year.  I know she wasn't an All-American.  Ever see CNU's hall of fame.  It is very considerable in size compared to GC.  I know GC has been around for a much longer time.  I actually don't think those requirements are tough just complicated.  What all-american list or all-state, all-distict list are they using. For instance we have the d3websites for basketball or football.  They come up with so many lists.  The only players I know have made the hall of fame that come to mind are a couple of mens basketball players.  Of course though GC was a womens college for such a long time.  It wasn't until the 50-60's where there was mens basketball which is the team we have had the longest in schools history I believe. I am no longer an athlete at GC so the only award I am looking  forward to getting now is the Power Pride Award. To the best fan, look for me at the games.  I will be hard to miss I will be wearing an afro wig and a shirt and tie haha.

nova-thanks for the Karma

[hasanova]

The reason I ask is bridgewater is inducting one of my high school teachers into their hall of fame this year.  I know she wasn't an All-American.  Ever see CNU's hall of fame.  It is very considerable in size compared to GC.  I know GC has been around for a much longer time.  I actually don't think those requirements are tough just complicated.  What all-american list or all-state, all-distict list are they using. For instance we have the d3websites for basketball or football.  They come up with so many lists.  The only players I know have made the hall of fame that come to mind are a couple of mens basketball players.  Of course though GC was a womens college for such a long time.  It wasn't until the 50-60's where there was mens basketball which is the team we have had the longest in schools history I believe. I am no longer an athlete at GC so the only award I am looking  forward to getting now is the Power Pride Award. To the best fan, look for me at the games.  I will be hard to miss I will be wearing an afro wig and a shirt and tie haha.

nova-thanks for the Karma

You're welcome for the karma.

Not sure about BC's rules, but a lot of schools tend to elect some folks under the "community service" criterium, especially if it's been a few years since they were a sports competitor.  Not sure of the lady's name to whom you refer, but if it's who I think it is she was a good athlete in her day.

Sounds as though you'll be a lock for the Power Pride Award.  lol  You should come to the Soup Bowl game at Guilford on September 30 and say hello.  If you haven't seen what Guilford's done at their stadium this year, I think you'll like it.  It's also Homecoming, so I'm sure I'll be there.  Pat Cummings of d3football.com also says he has this one "penciled in" on his schedule.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Well I am sure she doesn't mind.  Her name was Alice Hopkins.  She played field Hockey and Basketball at BC.  She is MD state at least recgonized coach winning 10-11 state championships in field hockey.

Its a tough competition for that Power Pride award haha.  They don't have a listing of who has won it but I don't think a student as ever won it.  Its GC vs. GC i don't think I could ever miss that game.  It was a hell of a game last year. 36-35.  I was there I knew from the begining it was going to be a high scoring game. Wasn't it like 20 points scored in the first 1:30. I hope to see the same this year. I am sure you will find me, although my goal is to get 11 other guys to do it be the 12th man... so we can be called the "12 Angry Men"...like that movie.

[hasanova]

Well I am sure she doesn't mind.  Her name was Alice Hopkins.  She played field Hockey and Basketball at BC.  She is MD state at least recgonized coach winning 10-11 state championships in field hockey.

Its a tough competition for that Power Pride award haha.  They don't have a listing of who has won it but I don't think a student as ever won it.  Its GC vs. GC i don't think I could ever miss that game.  It was a hell of a game last year. 36-35.  I was there I knew from the begining it was going to be a high scoring game. Wasn't it like 20 points scored in the first 1:30. I hope to see the same this year. I am sure you will find me, although my goal is to get 11 other guys to do it be the 12th man... so we can be called the "12 Angry Men"...like that movie.

Yeah, great movie.  Henry Fonda and a terrific cast.  Ed Begley, Sr., Lee J. Cobb and others - a good moral for all of us to not judge people too quickly.  Last year was a wonderful game.  There were about 4 TDs in the first few minutes and then Guilford came from 11 down in the 4th - exciting.  Since the rivalry is building, it's also Homecoming at Guilford and they're dedicating the new stadium renovations, it should be a big crowd.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Lets not forget the real thread this is mens basketball thread.  Greensboro College women's basketball schdeule is up.  the Coliseum rivalry game doesn't look like it will be played there.  They are playing at Guliford.  Don't know the story behind that.  Somebody didn't want to play at the coliseum.  There goes the neutral site, because I know guilford fans will be at that game. I am sure its the same on the men's side. Just really disappointed that isn't still a neutral game like it should be.

[Monarch96]

Now that the US team officailly can't win the world championships. Do anyone have any thoughts on things that can be done to improve the team that we send to compete. Do you think american basketball ie: NBA, college, and high schools should change to international rules?

[scottiedoug]

Maybe shooting free throws and defending the pick and roll would help.  A little less arrogance and abandoning the military metaphors from the promoters might be useful, too. 

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Learn the language of the international players.  I have played pick-up games with some people from Serbia.  Its not easy trying to play with them.  They communicate in their words and set up plays and one can't stop them. (no joke, and Serbians are good)

Maybe to help USA win is if they communicate as a team.

[Monarch96]

It's almost fall already and time for the new basketball season. Who will be the impact newcomers in the USA South this year and who's the favorite for the conference crown. Hopefully my monarchs are headed back to the top of the league after a little slide last season. What are your thoughts?

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Too early for me to really know.  It will be hard for me not to say that CNU won't be at the top again.  Then the rest of the conference I think could go in any direction.

[cnufan]

There was a time the NCAA debated on going to the trapezoid style lane like they use in international play. But that I think was quickly negated. I thought it would have cool to go to that style, but who knows what would have been!!

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Imagine that trapezoid in the NBA instead of 3 steps players would get four just to dunk it 

[narch]

isn't recruiting fun?...i dug this up from the summer...i'll add names when they appear on the official roster

from my sources within the hoops program, the monarchs have had some nice recruits on campus lately:

2nd team all-state guard from wv - a little on the small side for most scholarship programs, but very smart, fundamentally sound player - still looking at lots of schools, but mc is high on the list
enrolled

wing - local product who averaged around 8 ppg, 7 rpg in hs - a little raw, but talented - has nice range at 6'4"-6'5" - could be a poor man's seth thomas in a few years
did not enroll

post from fla - 6'6" pure athlete - nasty on the break - played on a very good hs team - still lots of question marks, but could potentially be an impact player in a few years if he enrolls
did not enroll

combo guard from tn - a little on the small side for scholly programs, but a solid player - avg 12+ ppg, 6+ apg and 3+ spg for a team that finished in the final 16 in the state
did not enroll

firm committment from a 6'8" juco player - not expected to be an impact kind of player, but fundamentally sound with good experience - should add nice front-court depth enrolled

the monarchs got a FIRM COMMIT from a combo guard from wilmington, nc who should be able to contribute right away - smart player and very athletic - recruited hard by every nc d3 as well as a number of d2's (although no athletic $$$'s were offered) - he could be a big get for the monarchs enrolled

mc is also pursuing the mvp of one of the nc state championship games - he's a 6'3" wing who averaged 16 ppg and 8 rpg - there is a long way to go for him, but stay tuned did not enroll

add to that the d1 (recruited walk-on from vcu) transfer that came in (but didn't play) this spring, and it's a solid class that fills most of the needs - there are others that could contribute in the class, as well, but these are the guys i know the most about