MBB: USA South Conference

[narch]

great...another cnu fan...just what this board needs

seriously, welcome aboard rikki, and tell your boys to take it easy on the conference this year - don't know how long you've been lurking on these boards, but i'll tell you up front that i like to be a bit smarmy at times...don't take offense, 'cause i don't mean half of what i say

[Monarch96]

Welcome rikki,
come on guys you've been getting some rumblings from campus. who's the best team in the league this year?

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

CNU is still my favorite.  I have said this before with regards to the teams based on last year.

CNU
AU (was 0-2 against CNU)
Methodist (was 1-3 against top 2 teams)
Greensboro (was 2-2 against the top 2 teams)
NCWC (was 1-3 against top 2 teams)
Shenadoah
Ferrum


So here is what I see coming out of here

CNU
AU
Greensboro
Methodist
NCWC
SU
Ferrum.

It is really hard to say.  I think the middle of the conference is up in the air.  GC could win and I think NCWC could win.  (GC lost 4 conference games by a total 9 points.  Only 2 of them would have put them at the top of the conference.)  NCWC can play ball and so can Methodist.  I am sure everyone brought in some good players.  We will have to wait and see.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Did anyone see that orginal idea on one of the D3basketball boards, of having a fantasy basketball team.  Sounded interesting, but looked like a lot of work.  They turned it into pick'em league instead.

[mattgrubb]

street and smith is out, have not seen all the rankings but apparently Maryville is better at basketball than football
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=5&id=1634

[narch]

So here is what I see coming out of here

CNU
AU
Greensboro
Methodist
NCWC
SU
Ferrum.

you're on a fissure

seriously, though, we disagree on just a few picks...this is the way i see the conference shaking out...of course, much could change when we see rosters and find out who is and is not back at each school:

CNU
AU
NCWC
Methodist
SU
Greensboro
Ferrum

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

USASAC Preseason poll.

1. Christopher Newport (6) 36
2. N.C. Wesleyan 28
3. Averett (1) 25
T-4. Greensboro 18
T-4. Methodist 18
6. Shenandoah 16
7. Ferrum 6

From what I know coaches have the rosters when these polls are put together.  They have a good idea whats coming in and who is coming back.  Poll looks solid.  The pick that bugs me is AU. I think they deserve #3, but dropping off like that.  (I wonder if they could drop off like what Ferrum did for football)

Narch-Coaches think MC and GC are pretty even.  Should be good games this year like the past couple of years.

[narch]

The pick that bugs me is AU. I think they deserve #3, but dropping off like that.  (I wonder if they could drop off like what Ferrum did for football)

what do you mean by this?  I don't get it...the pick (averett at #3) bugs you, but you think they deserve #3 (which is where they are picked), and you wonder if they could drop off (presumably from finishing 2nd last year to 3rd this year)...please explain these contradictions, i sometimes struggle following your train of thought

From what I know coaches have the rosters when these polls are put together.  They have a good idea whats coming in and who is coming back. 

they might have a good idea of who returned, but, for instance, the MC COACHES don't even know who will make the varsity team at MC right now...they've only been working with them since 12:01 on oct 15...how do you suppose opposing coaches know who the new MC players are?

Should be good games this year like the past couple of years.

yeah...the pride are 2-11 vs. mc since the 2000-01 season (and 1-7 over the last 4 seasons and 0-4 the last 2 seasons)...i hope there are 2 or 3 more mc/gc games that follow the form of the last few seasons, too

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

With AU, I haven't seen a roster but they have had a good team.  I am thinking coaches are worried about who they do or don't have.  AU won some close games last year.  They didn't beat CNU at all (GC beat them both neither of the other teams in the conference did that.) (Possibly causing them to fall off like I orginally thought a few weeks ago.  I still think 3 is a good spot.)


Not too many teams have the luxury of a JV-Varsity team like Methodist.  I am sure you can tell me they sent out who they have trying out.

The past two years yeah you beat us.  The last two years I would say MC got one really good win against GC.  1:47 was the difference in GC going 3-1 the past two years

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

GC Season Information

http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/Mbasketball/mb2006-07/gcmbcosida.pdf

[Pat Coleman]

Maryville IS better at basketball at football. However, Street & Smith's sucks at both for D-III.

[CNU85]

I thought I'd come over to this board and bug Narch and BBallguy for awhile.

It's still football season for me...hard to think about hoops....maybe when I get my ticket information it'll start to feel a little hoopsy.  Midnight Madness is Friday night....maybe I'll go....I'll have to sleep in a little to get my rest...I'll be tired Saturday afternoon from cheering all of CNU's touchdowns against Methodist!!       Hi Narch - you coming up for the game?

[narch]

Maryville IS better at basketball at football. However, Street & Smith's sucks at both for D-III.

you're right, but at least they give d3 token coverage...that's more than most national publications

[narch]

prideguy - thanks for the link - it's interesting that the gc coaching staff is continuing the trend at gc of recruiting tons of transfer students...looks like at least 4 juco transfers, if i'm reading correct...wow

i don't think the conference has seen a school go this route since cnu was a haven for transfer students in the late 90's, and it should be noted that i don't ever recall cnu bringing in 4 juco kids in one year

please take this for what it is...an observation and an opinion...it is not meant to be a personal attack on any gc coach or fan or the institution or you...

i think recruiting like this flies in the face of what d3 athletics are all about - this isn't a win-at-all-costs division - it's a division where athletics supplement the educational experience (but winning does matter ) - that doesn't mean that coaches shouldn't welcome a transfer or two each year if they are interested, and it doesn't mean that juco kids are horrible...it just seems that greensboro has really been building most of their athletic teams through short-term, quick-fix solutions (read: transfers) - my limited knowledge of gc would indicate that a small percentage of their students are transfer students, yet it seems that a disproportionately high percentage of their student-athletes are...why the disparity? (if, indeed, my perception is accurate) - feel free to disagree and vehemently defend the gc position, but there is no denying that the gc teams have leaned heavily on transfers for the last few seasons and much more so than any other school in the conference

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Narch-

Most of the student athletes here are undergrad non-transfers.  That goes for the same with the student body.  A few coaches are new coaches here so they might have had a kid on the radar at the other school.  (Eckerd was in FL)   Continuing success as each season seems to be built upon the last.  "winter sports" has gotten better here at GC over the past few years.  Building a team off of transfers, I have no opinion.  Some of the top schools in the country at d3 are using transfers.  Its a continuing trend.  Someone brought up the rumor that Greensboro was moving to D2.  I am not to sure about that, but if that is the case, makes the school look more attractive.

CNU built teams off of transfers and look where it has brought them.  The envy of the league.