MBB: USA South Conference

[notamensa]

the in the freeman is a great place to watch as well, especially when the football or baseball teams are there as a group. since the football program is about the same age as the freeman, there couldnt have been any football teams getting nasty in ratcliffe, right? has the cnu enrollment increased since then? i cant imagine how crowded a small gym would have been with our current enrollment. what was the capacity of the ratcliff?

[CNCGrad]

Ratcliff capacity was about 1,000.   As far as rowdy fans, we had the soccer players and the baseball players.  They were crazier than the current students and players.   Imagine a player having to throw in a ball right on the sideline with the fans right in your ears.  They also got all over the refs. 

Class of 88

[old_lion]

piedmont continues their mastery over the monarchs, winning 87-73 @ pc today - frosh anderson had a big day for the monarchs with 21/5/1/0 off the bench, but frosh bascom struggled, going 2-13 - mcbryde had just 3 rebs for the game and radmanovic scored just 7 points...those two have to player bigger (literally and figuratively) for the monarchs to have any success this year

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narch, fortunately for us, we finally had several guys all playing well at the same time. The fact that, for the most part, we stayed out of foul trouble, certainly was helpful. And we actually committed a couple of more fouls than Methodist, until right at the end when they had to foul.

The officials must have been decent, because I hardly noticed them. They may have erred slightly on the side of letting too much go ... but that's fine, I'll take that any day over the alternative.

Another positive for us ... we got Rubio back from injury. He didn't play that much last night, but I think he is going to be a big help for us down the road.

The Monarch I was most impressed with was Shuford. That guy is a MAN! He was scoring inside, rebounding, blocking shots ... heck, he was even guarding our PG. He's the biggest (literally and figuratively) 6'2 guy I've seen in a while. He plays "extremely large."

[old_lion]

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And we actually committed a couple of more fouls than Methodist, until right at the end when they had to foul.

I went back and checked my memory against the play by play ... actually, when Whitlock fouled out at the 4 minute mark, we had committed 15 fouls to Methodist's 10 ... then Methodist committed the last 7 fouls of the game.

[CNU85]

I noticed the Daily Press has a new person covering CNU men's basketball. Not sure if I like that. I'll give the new guy some time, but so far I wonder if he's watching the same game we are!

[narch]

The officials must have been decent, because I hardly noticed them. They may have erred slightly on the side of letting too much go ... but that's fine, I'll take that any day over the alternative.

you hardly ever notice them when the calls are going your way

The Monarch I was most impressed with was Shuford. That guy is a MAN! He was scoring inside, rebounding, blocking shots ... heck, he was even guarding our PG. He's the biggest (literally and figuratively) 6'2 guy I've seen in a while. He plays "extremely large."

he's also a starting db on the monarch football team...tremendous athlete, very strong...he's a non-traditional student-athlete, having served in the military prior to enrolling at mu, so in many ways he is very much a MAN compared to his teammates - but you clearly did not see sam porter, who was listed at 6'4" but wasn't an inch taller than 6'2"...sam was the biggest 6'2" guy i've ever seen

[old_lion]

The officials must have been decent, because I hardly noticed them. They may have erred slightly on the side of letting too much go ... but that's fine, I'll take that any day over the alternative.

you hardly ever notice them when the calls are going your way

Come on, narch ... that comment was beneath you. 

Since you weren't there, I'm not surprised that sort of thought would cross your mind ... that is why I went to the trouble to point out that Methodist was enjoying a 3/2 advantage re the fouls called, until the last few minutes of the game, when they had to foul because they were losing ...

"I went back and checked my memory against the play by play ... actually, when Whitlock fouled out at the 4 minute mark, we had committed 15 fouls to Methodist's 10 ... then Methodist committed the last 7 fouls of the game."

Actually, my observation is that you hardly ever notice them unless ... they are imposing themselves as  an overly significant (and wrongful) determining factor in the outcome of the game. 

I do remember Porter. I would love to have either of them on our team right now!

[Capt-Schemer]

Actually, my observation is that you hardly ever notice them unless ... they are imposing themselves as  an overly significant (and wrongful) determining factor in the outcome of the game. 

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OK... In all your banter I've lost the bubble on who's who here.  Are you the one who does believe an official is sometimes a determining factor in the outcome of a game?
Reason I ask...  I have a golfing buddy who calls D1 ball and he'll be the 1st to tell you that NCAA officials, more often than should be, and more often than in years of past, DO play a role in the outcome.  If I could only send you tapes from the final 4 minutes of the CNU/VWC game...

[jdubyadubya]

Capt-Schemer - how about elaborating on that last sentence of your post

Actually, my observation is that you hardly ever notice them unless ... they are imposing themselves as  an overly significant (and wrongful) determining factor in the outcome of the game. 

OK... In all your banter I've lost the bubble on who's who here.  Are you the one who does believe an official is sometimes a determining factor in the outcome of a game?
Reason I ask...  I have a golfing buddy who calls D1 ball and he'll be the 1st to tell you that NCAA officials, more often than should be, and more often than in years of past, DO play a role in the outcome.  If I could only send you tapes from the final 4 minutes of the CNU/VWC game...
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[Capt-Schemer]

To quote Forest Gump... "That's all I got to say about that".
Didn't mean to stir the pot too much, and don't want to dwell on the past.
Now you can rail on me for tossing the grenade in the room and running...

[narch]

old lion - it was a sarcastic comment...hence the smiley

capt-shemerer - i have an uncle (by marriage) who has officiated sec, acc, c-usa and even old diac and some odac basketball games for the last 30 plus years...he would disagree with your golfing buddy, but he also realizes that poor calls and the human element of officiating are part of the game

[old_lion]

old lion - it was a sarcastic comment...hence the smiley

OK, my bad. I guess I'm just over sensitive since you (correctly) accused me of whining earlier.

But remember, I was whining ... but I wasn't wrong. 

[notamensa]

i am so ready for the hsc/cnu game tomorrow night. anyone want to go out on a limb and pick the captains to win? we will need everyone playing at their best to win, but i believe that we definitely can win. ed riley absolutely has to step up and play better. i think hes the key. 6.5 & 6.3 wont get it done. he needs to realize that hes not michael jordan and stop trying to play like a pure small forward. hes really a 3.5 (not a 3 or a 4), and needs to play like one. stop shooting threes (0 for 5 so far). we have lots of outside shooters. seldon is .500 for the season so far, barton is .455. baker is .333 but will improve that statistic before long. as a team were 40% for the season, including rileys 5 misses. what is really impressive is that were 50% as a team fg% overall. i think were going to win.

[Capt-Schemer]

old lion - it was a sarcastic comment...hence the smiley

capt-shemerer - i have an uncle (by marriage) who has officiated sec, acc, c-usa and even old diac and some odac basketball games for the last 30 plus years...he would disagree with your golfing buddy, but he also realizes that poor calls and the human element of officiating are part of the game

My golfing buddy is a 1 handicap.  I win!

[narch]

My golfing buddy is a 1 handicap.  I win!

did i mention he was a division 1 golfer before getting into officiating and has qualified for the us open twice...