MBB: USA South Conference

[hasanova]

I think its 200.

RTT is correct - it is 200.  Your status also changes at different junctures - JV, starter, all-american, etc.

thanks. it will be nice to get off the bench as a starter. until then ill be watching the plays and learning tendencies so i can applaud/smite appropriately when i get the opportunity.

Until you get to 200, you're what my HS coach used to call the End, Guard and Tackle.  If you're a rookie, you sit on the end of the bench, guard the water bucket and tackle anyone who comes near it.  If you could do that without messing up, he might put you in the game every once in a while.  Until that happens, you're sort of at the mercy of the upperclassmen.    I think karma may be Pat Coleman's idea of electronic hazing.  lol  Peace

[notamensa]

If you're a rookie, you sit on the end of the bench, guard the water bucket and tackle anyone who comes near it. 

ive heard that one before, but im guessing that its origin was many, many years ago. like from the era during which coaches thought that water depravation was a way to toughen up. today its more like "dont forget to hydrate, or you might fall over dead and end my coaching career."

[hasanova]

If you're a rookie, you sit on the end of the bench, guard the water bucket and tackle anyone who comes near it.

ive heard that one before, but im guessing that its origin was many, many years ago. like from the era during which coaches thought that water depravation was a way to toughen up. today its more like "dont forget to hydrate, or you might fall over dead and end my coaching career."

Yeah, it definitely wasn't my coach's original saying.  That one has been around for a long time.  You're absolutely right, coaching techniques - and the kids (and parents) they coach - have definitely changed.  All the coaches I had, if they were coaching now, would be fired or get a lawsuit their first season.  It was more like, "Gatorade, what in the **** is that?  Somebody get this wimp (and I cleaned it up) some salt tablets and get him out of my sight!  Okay, everybody run laps until we don't have any more wimps on this team!  It's only 98 degrees for crying out loud!"  lol

[narch]

the monarchs got a pretty convincing win over baruch today in florida, winning 71-55...huge night for brandon williams with 22/9 and frosh bascom had a double/double with 11/11 - looks like coach smith is tinkering with the lineup or there are some injuries/illness...whatever it is seemed to work today as mu shot 50% and held baruch to just 31% (14% from 3)...nice win against a team coming off a 23 win season last year (although they are replacing 4 starters)

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[notamensa]

the usasac continues to look very, very strong. congrats to methodist. now go get a win over a d2.

[notamensa]

hey, great win by nc wesleyan over york (ny). suddenly, york is not looking so great afterall. thats too bad because i was really taking solace in their early success and hoped that cnu had lost to a really good team. i dont want to take anything away from the bishops win, but now im not so sure.

[hasanova]

the usasac continues to look very, very strong. congrats to methodist. now go get a win over a d2.

Looks like Methodist will play Embry-Riddle (ERAU) for the championship after the Eagles demolished NCAA DII Brevard by 40, 89-49.  Just a bit of clarification, ERAU is an NAIA DII institution and they are ranked #5 in that division with a 7-1 record.  I remember Guilford lost to them 90-72 to start the season last year in this tournament.  They are very tough at home and also finished very high in the NAIA DII national tournament last year.  My nephew's team won their first round game at the NAIA nationals last year and he got to see ERAU play in person - he says they are very good.  Methodist may play a great game, but ERAU's talent, coupled with a home game and their 5-game advantage in games played this year, may spell a really tough game for the Monarchs.  Good luck to MU, but don't be surprised if the Eagles aren't one of the best teams you'll see this season.

[Capt-Schemer]

CNU won big tonignt.
Who was it that said Ed Riley should'nt shoot outside 12 feet?
I think M. Blasingame had some 5 or 6 blocks... and how about that # you know what?

Notamensa...you are living up to your name w/ your comments about York.  They are a very good team.

[Capt-Schemer]

Karma zero.... you just hate it when I'm right!

Boomer/Sooner!

[Rikki_Tikki_Tavi]

hey, great win by nc wesleyan over york (ny). suddenly, york is not looking so great afterall. thats too bad because i was really taking solace in their early success and hoped that cnu had lost to a really good team. i dont want to take anything away from the bishops win, but now im not so sure.

Look at the box from that game, notamensa and tell me what's missing? The kid who dropped 34 or 36 against CNU didnt play in that game. And I dont think he played in today's game as well, if memory serves me correctly. You lose 20 and 10 per game, your chances of winning diminish, slightly! 

[notamensa]

the usasac continues to look very, very strong. congrats to methodist. now go get a win over a d2.

Looks like Methodist will play Embry-Riddle (ERAU) for the championship after the Eagles demolished NCAA DII Brevard by 40, 89-49.  Just a bit of clarification, ERAU is an NAIA DII institution and they are ranked #5 in that division with a 7-1 record. 

i was only going by what narch posted earlier (post 1921). forgive me if i dont fully understand all of the alphbet classifications and divisions. arent both d2?

[notamensa]

CNU won big tonignt.
Who was it that said Ed Riley should'nt shoot outside 12 feet?
I think M. Blasingame had some 5 or 6 blocks... and how about that # you know what?

Notamensa...you are living up to your name w/ your comments about York.  They are a very good team.

it seems that captschemer doesnt like me much. all i said was -

"i was really taking solace in their early success and hoped that cnu had lost to a really good team. i dont want to take anything away from the bishops win, but now im not so sure."

i didnt say they were a bad team or a mediocre team, all i said was that the may not be a "really good team". i still think that. i wouldnt call any 2-3 team a "really good team".

and another thing. i never said riley shouldnt shoot from outside 12 feet. im pretty sure the 3pt line is way outside that. i said i dont like him shooting threes, and one 1-2 night to get him to 1-8 on the season isnt going to change my mind about that. i still think hes way more effective using his strength arounf the basket.

[notamensa]

hey, great win by nc wesleyan over york (ny). suddenly, york is not looking so great afterall. thats too bad because i was really taking solace in their early success and hoped that cnu had lost to a really good team. i dont want to take anything away from the bishops win, but now im not so sure.

Look at the box from that game, notamensa and tell me what's missing? The kid who dropped 34 or 36 against CNU didnt play in that game. And I dont think he played in today's game as well, if memory serves me correctly. You lose 20 and 10 per game, your chances of winning diminish, slightly! 

yeah, i see that. he didnt play against nyu either. but he did play in the rutgersnewark game between the nyu and ncwesleyan games. that has to be disappointing for the coaches and fans. maybe hes injured? theres no question that they arent as good without him, but i think it would be a stretch to say that they would have won those two games with him in the lineup. i dont think they sent just four guys out on the floor, so your comment that "You lose 20 and 10 per game, your chances of winning diminish, slightly" is slightly misleading. they didnt lose 20 and 10. they lost a player who was averaging 20 and 10 and replaced him with someone else who was averaging somewhat less, maybe even significantly less if the other player was getting less playing time than echols was. but with more playing time in the games in question, that substitute player would average more than he had prior, further diminishing the difference between the two averages going into the game. is that convoluted enough for you? if not, i can ramble further.

[narch]

the monarchs fell to erau, 77-68 yesterday - radmanovic had a big night on the boards, and it was a pretty balanced scoring night, overall, although winstead did get 21 on 7-10 shooting - turnovers and ft differential look to be the story of this game - 'nova, thanks for the clarity on erau's status as an naia ii team and the insight into their abilities...i doubt they'll be the best team the monarchs face this season, since they've already played d1 gardner-webb (who won 17 games last year), but i also have little doubt they're pretty good - they are 8-1 right now

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[hasanova]

the monarchs fell to erau, 77-68 yesterday - radmanovic had a big night on the boards, and it was a pretty balanced scoring night, overall, although winstead did get 21 on 7-10 shooting - turnovers and ft differential look to be the story of this game - 'nova, thanks for the clarity on erau's status as an naia ii team and the insight into their abilities...i doubt they'll be the best team the monarchs face this season, since they've already played d1 gardner-webb (who won 17 games last year), but i also have little doubt they're pretty good - they are 8-1 right now

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yw, narch - Yeah, I forgot about MU playing DI Gardner-Webb this season.   Despite the loss, sounds like Methodist played a fairly respectable game.  Brevards's 40-point loss to ERAU is a bit of an aberration as they are totally rebuilding from NAIA to NCAA DII.  Hope we get to meet in Fayetteville in a few weeks.