MBB: USA South Conference

[notamensa]

5. mu - 4-1 against d3 competition with wins against nna (0-8), baruch (3-5), rmc (5-4) and gettysburg (2-7) and a loss @ piedmont (4-5)

is nna a d3 program? i see that the guru has given them a hyperlink when they are listed as an opponent (unlike non d3 schools), but when you click on it no information loads (conference, schedule, etc).

[Ralph Turner]

5. mu - 4-1 against d3 competition with wins against nna (0-8), baruch (3-5), rmc (5-4) and gettysburg (2-7) and a loss @ piedmont (4-5)

is nna a d3 program? i see that the guru has given them a hyperlink when they are listed as an opponent (unlike non d3 schools), but when you click on it no information loads (conference, schedule, etc).

NNA is a NCAA affiliate school, but not a member.  Games versus NNA count as a 4-yr degree granting institution, (if I understand the wording correctly) and records and stats are officially acknowledged by the NCAA.

[notamensa]

thanks, ralph. wow, over 10000 posts and +261 karma! youre my hero and im being serious about that. there should be an all-galaxy category for you. this website continues to amaze me.

[hasanova]

thanks, ralph. wow, over 10000 posts and +261 karma! youre my hero and im being serious about that. there should be an all-galaxy category for you. this website continues to amaze me.

notamensa - I share your thoughts about the quantity and more importantly, quality, of Ralph's posts.  Even though I've never met Mr. Turner (and I sincerely hope I will), he is one of the (if not the) most respected posters on d3sports.com.  He certainly knows his DIII sports, of course, but he also gets universal respect because he gives respect.   He's "All Galaxy" in my book as well.  lol  Peace

[notamensa]

He certainly knows his DIII sports, of course, but he also gets universal respect because he gives respect.   

something for us all to aspire to.

[hasanova]

5. mu - 4-1 against d3 competition with wins against nna (0-8), baruch (3-5), rmc (5-4) and gettysburg (2-7) and a loss @ piedmont (4-5)

is nna a d3 program? i see that the guru has given them a hyperlink when they are listed as an opponent (unlike non d3 schools), but when you click on it no information loads (conference, schedule, etc).

NNA is a NCAA affiliate school, but not a member.  Games versus NNA count as a 4-yr degree granting institution, (if I understand the wording correctly) and records and stats are officially acknowledged by the NCAA.

Some of our posters just learning more about NNA might not realize that one of their more successful football coaches was Halifax County, VA (South Boston area) native Norm Snead.  Snead coached NNA two different times (77-84 and 88-89) after his 16-year NFL career.  I was too young to remember his Wake Forest career, but certainly remember him in the pros.  He played QB with five teams, but I mainly know him from the Redskins, Eagles and Vikings.  I also remember the buzz and was at the game when his Builders came to Greensboro in 1988 to play the Quakers.  He was so well known he had a lot of autograph requests after the game. 

[CNU85]

Norm Snead...another Native from "The Peninsula" right here in CNU's back yard. I can't remember what HS he played for....have to look that up when I get some time. Maybe NNASID remembers.

[hasanova]

Norm Snead...another Native from "The Peninsula" right here in CNU's back yard. I can't remember what HS he played for....have to look that up when I get some time. Maybe NNASID remembers.

Warwick HS.  Snead was born in Halifax Co., but, as you said, grew up in Newport News.

http://www.virginiasportshalloffame.com/hall/induct_sneadn.html

[wilburt]

thanks, ralph. wow, over 10000 posts and +261 karma! youre my hero and im being serious about that. there should be an all-galaxy category for you. this website continues to amaze me.

I agree. Dr. Ralph Turner is a voice of reason in this D3 wilderness.  He is a true gentleman, scholar and a first rate poster.  He is a role model I try to emulate but alas I fall short at times... 

[PrideFan1986]

So Posters tonight here in Greensboro the Captains (4-2) are in action Against John Carroll (6-3). This looks like it might be a tough task for us tommorow as well as tonight for the USA South teams competeing what do you think the keys will be for the Captains to come out on top?

[notamensa]

i think cnu has to stay out of foul trouble, hit their 3s, and rebound well.

[narch]

didn't john carroll run "the system" (as employed by grinell) at one point?  i was looking at their box scores this season and they look decidedly un-system like, but seem to recall that they were a system school...maybe i'm wrong, or maybe they discovered that "the system" doesn't work

[PrideFan1986]

didn't john carroll run "the system" (as employed by grinell) at one point?  i was looking at their box scores this season and they look decidedly un-system like, but seem to recall that they were a system school...maybe i'm wrong, or maybe they discovered that "the system" doesn't work

Indeed it do belive they did. I noticed earlier in a walk through when i stoped by the gym they were running a very unorthadox type of offense sets. So it will be very interesting to see them in action against the USA South who is one of the toughest conferences this year.

[narch]

i just did a little research to answer my own question - if john carroll ever was a "system" school, they certainly don't seem to be one now...here are the basic tenets of "system" basketball:

1) Take 100 shots a game
2) 50% of those shots are 3 pt attempts
3) Force 32 turnovers
4) Get offensive rebounds on 33% of the shots
5) Take 30 more shots than the opponent

i don't think they've met these statistical goals in many, if any, games this year indicating that they do not currently employ "the system" - i'll do more research to find out if they ever have

[hasanova]

i just did a little research to answer my own question - if john carroll ever was a "system" school, they certainly don't seem to be one now...here are the basic tenets of "system" basketball:

1) Take 100 shots a game
2) 50% of those shots are 3 pt attempts
3) Force 32 turnovers
4) Get offensive rebounds on 33% of the shots
5) Take 30 more shots than the opponent

i don't think they've met these statistical goals in many, if any, games this year indicating that they do not currently employ "the system" - i'll do more research to find out if they ever have

I don't think the Blue Streaks are a "System" team either, but they will run if their opponent does.  Look at the boxscore from last year's 137-127 win over E&H.  JCU made 50 baskets in 80 shots (all 2-pointers) and attempted zero 3-pointers.  In contrast, E&H took 102 total shots and converted 18 of 62 three-pointers.  Obviously, JCU's other 37 points in this game were FTs (they took 68!).  This sounds like exactly the same strategy used by Guilford in all three of their 2005-06 wins over the Wasps.   Run if the other team wants to run, but outscore them inside and let them shoot the lower percentage three.  The rest of John Carroll's scores look like traditional basketball to me.

http://www.jcu.edu/studentl/Athletics/varsity/teams/basketball/men/BoxScores0506/jcmb0601.htm