MBB: USA South Conference

[gordonmann]

I think there are a lot of voters watching Guilford to see how they do with this tough stretch.

Tue., Jan 2   7:00 pm   at Averett •   W, 74-69       
Sat., Jan 6   2:00 pm   at Randolph-Macon • *           
Sun., Jan 7   2:00 pm   at Virginia Wesleyan • *       

One down, two to go, so to speak...    

[hasanova]

I think there are a lot of voters watching Guilford to see how they do with this tough stretch.

Tue., Jan 2   7:00 pm   at Averett •   W, 74-69       
Sat., Jan 6   2:00 pm   at Randolph-Macon • *           
Sun., Jan 7   2:00 pm   at Virginia Wesleyan • *       

One down, two to go, so to speak...

Thanks.  It's good to know Guilford is on the radar.  If you keep winning, especially tough games on the road, it has to attract some attention. 

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

nova-
I am still rooting for you in a way.  As much as I despise Guilford, I think they are a really underated team.  I saw them play against Greensboro and was impressed.  I hope the pollsters really see it too.

Narch-
that loss for AU does not drop them from the number 1 spot in my power rankings.

[hasanova]

nova-
I am still rooting for you in a way.  As much as I despise Guilford, I think they are a really underated team.  I saw them play against Greensboro and was impressed.  I hope the pollsters really see it too.

Narch-
that loss for AU does not drop them from the number 1 spot in my power rankings.

Pride - I appreciate your backing, but despise is an intense word.    lol  The Quakers have been fortunate to win the last two football games in the series (now 5-5) and (I think) six of the last seven in men's basketball.  In my mind, Guilford and Greensboro have a very healthy respect for each other both academically and athletically.  That intensity, however, just seems to be magnified in football and basketball.  Their mutual respect, their longevity (1837 for Guilford and 1838 for Greensboro), their spirited sports competition and their intracity geographic proximity are the ingredients for a great and sustained rivalry.  When you think about it, it's truly a symbiotic relationship that benefits both schools.  To me, it says good things about both men's basketball programs that Greensboro's sole loss was in OT to undefeated Guilford.  I could tell the Pride were a good team when they met at the Coliseum.  Hopefully, both teams will continue to have stellar seasons!  I hope so!  Peace

[SU97]

Been away for the holiday.  Solid weekend for the Hornets at H-SC. Looking forward to the start of conference play next week down in Newport News.   Made it down to CNU last year to catch this game and enjoyed the contest, hopefully a different result this year though... 

We have D-II D&E visting from WV tomorrow night at home, should be a good game. 

Nice win for Guilford, sorry to see Averett lose though - they'll still be ranked.  Interesting to see if GC gets ranked soon.

and Yes, I rocked SU in the poll.

[narch]

Are the Quakers pushing the Top 25 with this win?

i think so, especially if they can beat rmc...even a close loss to vwc shouldn't keep them out of the top 25, in my opinion, since vwc is currently ranked #8 in the country - that's a great win for the quackers, and it certainly sounds like the game was every bit as exciting as the mu/gcq and gc/gcq games, even without the overtime sessions

[hasanova]

Are the Quakers pushing the Top 25 with this win?

i think so, especially if they can beat rmc...even a close loss to vwc shouldn't keep them out of the top 25, in my opinion, since vwc is currently ranked #8 in the country - that's a great win for the quackers, and it certainly sounds like the game was every bit as exciting as the mu/gcq and gc/gcq games, even without the overtime sessions

Good morning, narch.  Last night's GC/AU game was not considered by voters for this week's Top 25 poll, but will be a factor next week.  I noticed the Quakers got the 28th spot and have steadily increased (3, 14 and now 34) over the past three polls.   As I mentioned earlier, it's hard to ignore them if they keep winning - especially on the road!  

Hopefully, the Quakers aren't taking any game for granted.  I sure wouldn't!  After all, RMC has won 7 games, is playing at home and has always proven difficult for Guilford.  The obstacle of playing Virginia Wesleyan at the Batten Center goes without saying.  I have to agree with you, if Guilford wins at least one of these two and plays a tight game in a loss, they're in.  Winning both will be an almost obvious trip to the Top 25, but If they lose both, then I think they're still on the outside of the bubble.  Fingers crossed in Greensboro .... lol

BTW, it was indeed a tightly contested game.  Many lead changes and ties.  Also, Snipes bounced back with 22 after only 9 at Methodist.  Strong also had a good game, especially in the 2nd half.  He finished with 19 points on 9 of 11 from the floor and got his 6th double double with 12 rebounds.  Peace

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Narch-
Check this out.  I applied my Power Ranking system to the top 3 teams in the polls and thought Ohio Northern was the #1 team followed by Amherst then UW-SP.  I think the the only reason Amherst is 2nd because they haven't lost yet.

The selection speaks volumes. After reading and commenting the last week, I am dissappointed but not surprised.

Yes it does.  It speaks volumes for playing some tough competition in the nonconference portion of your schedule which Amherst didn't come close to doing. 

Let's look at the opponent's combined winning percentage of the teams in the top 3:

UW-SP's opponents have a combined winning percentage of 0.568.  They also have wins over the current #12, #18, #21 and #25 teams in the d3hoops poll and they are undefeated against d3 competition.

ONU's opponents have an even better combined winning percentage of 0.634 and they have wins vs. the current #4, #7 and #25 teams, but they did suffer what now looks like a very uncharacteristic loss to previously ranked B-W.

And then there's Amherst whose opponents have a stellar combined winning percentage of 0.425?!  Only 2 of their 9 opponents have above 0.500 records?!  Oh and they have beaten the current #21 team in the poll (the only ranked opponent they have faced).

[Rikki_Tikki_Tavi]

Been away for the holiday.  Solid weekend for the Hornets at H-SC. Looking forward to the start of conference play next week down in Newport News.   Made it down to CNU last year to catch this game and enjoyed the contest, hopefully a different result this year though... 

We have D-II D&E visting from WV tomorrow night at home, should be a good game. 

Nice win for Guilford, sorry to see Averett lose though - they'll still be ranked.  Interesting to see if GC gets ranked soon.

and Yes, I rocked SU in the poll.

SU-I believe that game next week is in Winchester, if memory serves me correct. Ill be tuning in to that one. Should be a good one.

[narch]

Narch-
Check this out.  I applied my Power Ranking system to the top 3 teams in the polls and thought Ohio Northern was the #1 team followed by Amherst then UW-SP.  I think the the only reason Amherst is 2nd because they haven't lost yet.

that is incredibly exciting news...thanks for sharing...now that i know your flawed formula correctly ordered 0% of the top 3 teams, my life is now officially complete

[Pat Coleman]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

[notamensa]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

i, too, expected cnu to get no votes this week, but 4 losses is obviously not a complete disqualifier. look at uw-lacrosse. they have 4 losses and they are still in the top 25. i know that there are strength of schedule and competition issues, and there are "quality losses", but if 4 losses should get NO votes, then the fact that uwl got 70 votes is an even greater inconsistency than cnu getting 4, imho.

[narch]

umm...the monarchs aren't quite ready to compete on a national level yet...it hurts me to type this, but vwc just handed the monarchs one of the most lopsided losses i can remember, 84-49 - adair is a beast, ton ton is the real deal, vwc is incredibly athletic, and they obviously took out a little post-texas aggression on the monarchs...

[hasanova]

umm...the monarchs aren't quite ready to compete on a national level yet...it hurts me to type this, but vwc just handed the monarchs one of the most lopsided losses i can remember, 84-49 - adair is a beast, ton ton is the real deal, vwc is incredibly athletic, and they obviously took out a little post-texas aggression on the monarchs...

wow ... To be honest, I'm not surprised that VWC won, but I didn't expect that margin of victory.  Reading your description tells me the Marlins really came to play.   Hope they cool down some by the weekend!