MBB: USA South Conference

[sludge]

wow ... To be honest, I'm not surprised that VWC won, but I didn't expect that margin of victory.  Reading your description tells me the Marlins really came to play.   Hope they cool down some by the weekend!

Maybe Emory and Henry will wear them out.

[SU97]

Just saw one of the craziest endings I've witnessed in 15 years of hoops at Shingleton Gym...   SU knocks off Davis & Elkins at the buzzer - inbounds play with 2 seconds on the clock and Mouktar throws up a prayer from three with a guy in his face and the ball rattles around on the rim for about half an hour...  and goes in.  Great to have a little momentum going into conference play! 

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I know Narch won't like where the rankings are right now.  I will say this from 5th to 7th a total of .07 points is the difference in the rankings.  The top 3 spots have a solid lead on the rest of conference.  Here are my week 6 power rankings.

Week 6 Power Rankings
Averett
Greensboro
CNU
Ferrum
Shenadoah
NC Wesleyan
Methodist

Narch-
if Methodist would have scored 7 more points tonight they would have been in 5th. So if you want to say MU is in 5th go ahead and say it because I would say ok.  The numbers are so close.   I like nova was very shocked with the score.  I thought it would have been a closer game as well. 

[scottiedoug]

Anybody see Maryville hold Greensboro to 49 and win without much of an outside game?  How did that happen?  Watch out, Narch!

[Pat Coleman]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

i, too, expected cnu to get no votes this week, but 4 losses is obviously not a complete disqualifier. look at uw-lacrosse. they have 4 losses and they are still in the top 25. i know that there are strength of schedule and competition issues, and there are "quality losses", but if 4 losses should get NO votes, then the fact that uwl got 70 votes is an even greater inconsistency than cnu getting 4, imho.

It's ok -- I doubt he looked at who UW-La Crosse had played when he said that.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

i, too, expected cnu to get no votes this week, but 4 losses is obviously not a complete disqualifier. look at uw-lacrosse. they have 4 losses and they are still in the top 25. i know that there are strength of schedule and competition issues, and there are "quality losses", but if 4 losses should get NO votes, then the fact that uwl got 70 votes is an even greater inconsistency than cnu getting 4, imho.

It's ok -- I doubt he looked at who UW-La Crosse had played when he said that.

No you see the thing is I looked at who CNU played.  You see the difference with UW-La Crosse is they went 3-1 against better competition then CNU who went 2-2 against ok competition since the last poll came out.  4 losses is still too many to have to be ranked this point in the season.  Plus they are already 4-1 in conference play, in a good conference.

[PrideFan1986]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

i, too, expected cnu to get no votes this week, but 4 losses is obviously not a complete disqualifier. look at uw-lacrosse. they have 4 losses and they are still in the top 25. i know that there are strength of schedule and competition issues, and there are "quality losses", but if 4 losses should get NO votes, then the fact that uwl got 70 votes is an even greater inconsistency than cnu getting 4, imho.

It's ok -- I doubt he looked at who UW-La Crosse had played when he said that.

No you see the thing is I looked at who CNU played.  You see the difference with UW-La Crosse is they went 3-1 against better competition then CNU who went 2-2 against ok competition since the last poll came out.  4 losses is still too many to have to be ranked this point in the season.  Plus they are already 4-1 in conference play, in a good conference.

If you look at one of the losses of the captains, it was to a 2-9 team. How does that deserve any votes? If you look at UW-Lacrosse they have lost to quality programs.

[PrideFan1986]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

Pat what is the format of your voting system and if someone is getting influenced or being bias on thier vote. I am not saying that it is happening but what do you do if it does. It is just something that i have always wondered about the national voteing system.

[Pat Coleman]

http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?category=Top%2025

[narch]

Pat what is the format of your voting system and if someone is getting influenced or being bias on thier vote. I am not saying that it is happening but what do you do if it does. It is just something that i have always wondered about the national voteing system.

can someone familiar with greensboroese please translate this for me 

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Pat what is the format of your voting system and if someone is getting influenced or being bias on thier vote. I am not saying that it is happening but what do you do if it does. It is just something that i have always wondered about the national voteing system.

can someone familiar with greensboroese please translate this for me 

I think I can translate Narch. Gullet wants to know the format for the voting of the top 25. He is wondering what happens if Pat suspects someone who is voting is being biased and what is to be done if they are.

Narch I am not even sure if my translation is right.  Freetranslation.com doesn't have a greensboroese to english dictionary.

[SU97]

SU-CNU in Winchester next week (BTW thanks for the location info Riki - SU changed their website recently and I have not quite gotten used to it yet).  Pridesport, I'm curious to what your thoughts are on CNU this year (assuming that you might have caught at least one game with the whole GC-CNU-Fisk series).  Curious how you see them comparing to last year. 

After seeing Averett and GC having such great starts makes it kind of unlucky that the GC-Averett is so early in the season. 

[Pat Coleman]

I think I can translate Narch. Gullet wants to know the format for the voting of the top 25. He is wondering what happens if Pat suspects someone who is voting is being biased and what is to be done if they are.

I kinda figured that was what he meant but the FAQ link is all I'm willing to speak to regarding the poll. Any change in individual voting members would be handled internally.

I value the accuracy of the poll above all else. Just put it that way.

[gordonmann]

Programming note for Averett fans...

D3hoopsNet will be broadcasting this Saturday's Coaches versus Cancer final at York College (Pa.).  If Averett wins this evening, the Cougars would play either York (Pa.) or Hobart. 

Either way, we hope to air an interview with Coach Jimmy Allen to discuss the team's quick start, what it learned from last year's heart breaking season finale and the upcoming conference season.

Parents of players, alumni and fans will be able to access the live free broadcast at www.AllinBroadcasting.com or www.d3hoops.com/audio/ starting at 2:45 PM EST.

[CNU85]

AU moves up in the poll.

CNU out and now with 4 votes.  I am sorry I just don't think with 4 losses they should have any votes.  They are probably still a good team they could go 25-4.  I just don't think 4 losses warrant anybody in the top 25, because there are 100's of teams out there right now with 4 losses.

Agreed.

hmm....I agree CNU isn't a top 25 team. But am wondering which part of the post you "Agree" with.....obviously a lot of the folks voting do not agree with the 4 loss issue...look at the record of the #25 team. But then again, that doesn't mean you gave them a vote.