MBB: USA South Conference

[Rikki_Tikki_Tavi]

JLawrence had a huge game with 28 points, 18 boards and 4 blocks - all against guys who were much taller. He carried us.  It really hurts him to have Onyie out injured (I think OO averages about 15 pts. and 10 rbs per game) but he did everything he could to try and win this one.

i really like both of these guys...lawrence is a fantastic player and onyie is a beast...it's too bad that he's missing some time because of injury, especially after missing the conference portion of the season last year - he's a poty caliber player when he's on the court...any idea when he'll return to action?

According to the Winchester Star, Coach Harris is very doubtful he will return this year and may take a medical redshirt

[hasanova]

the year-by-year results of GC MBB can be found on the first page of .pdf record book on the "Record Book and Past Seasons" page. It's listed below. The last wining record was 1994-95...

http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/Mbasketball/recs.pdf

I honestly didn't realize it had been 12 years for the Pride.  By the way, did you spell "winning" with only one "n" to keep up the "whine/wine and cheese" routine?  Funny. 

I guess that i wasnt paying attention to what I was typing

Hey, I'm only a good-natured kidder, so I didn't mean any harm ... but I guess one of your 200+ post pals thought it was worthy of a smite.  lol  Everyone needs to lighten up. 

[Pat Coleman]

We'll have the rankings here. No need to try to navigate that complicated mess of an NCAA site.

[SU97]

JLawrence had a huge game with 28 points, 18 boards and 4 blocks - all against guys who were much taller. He carried us.  It really hurts him to have Onyie out injured (I think OO averages about 15 pts. and 10 rbs per game) but he did everything he could to try and win this one.

i really like both of these guys...lawrence is a fantastic player and onyie is a beast...it's too bad that he's missing some time because of injury, especially after missing the conference portion of the season last year - he's a poty caliber player when he's on the court...any idea when he'll return to action?

According to the Winchester Star, Coach Harris is very doubtful he will return this year and may take a medical redshirt

I think either the Winchester Star or the Northern Virginia Daily had indicated a possibility of him returning by the Averett game.  That the Training Staff would take a look at it then...  Before Christmas they were hoping he would be back for the CNU game, but obviously he was on crutches in the gym...  This is tough news for SU.  Not to take anything away from JLawrence - who has played outstanding for us the last two years, but Onyie (to quote Mr. Narch) is a Beast.  I couldn't have said it better myself. 

Onyie is acctually the variable answer to why SU did not fit into PrideSport's power ranking earlier when it was ran for last year's teams.  With Onyie in the line-up last year the Hornets were 9-2.  Without Onyie, they were something like 2-11. 

Anyways, one guy doesn't make a team, Hornets showed lots of heart against CNU.  I hope that the hornets can rebound from that loss wednesday night down in carolina this weekend.  Has NCWC gone state school yet?  What's the word down there?

[SU97]

9 for 21 from the free-throw line. That's the game. Not much more to say about that...

Great game to watch though, SU's kids played hard until the final whistle.  We don't match up well when it comes to the height advantage from CNU down low, but our guys didn't give up. JLawrence had a huge game with 28 points, 18 boards and 4 blocks - all against guys who were much taller. He carried us.  It really hurts him to have Onyie out injured (I think OO averages about 15 pts. and 10 rbs per game) but he did everything he could to try and win this one. He did get some help, I don't think it shows well in the boxscore because the 3-point % was pretty low, but LAdams hit three big 3's for us to keep us in it. All-in-all we had looks at the end of regulation and a chance to tie in overtime, our guys just came up a little short. 

As for the Captains, they seemed to just sub in taller guys every two minutes...  By halftime I was waiting for Shaq to go show up. I thought #43 and #45 were impressive on the offensive end.  #43 had a huge wingspan and#45 was pretty strong but they really didn't seem to rebound well.  I was disappointed in #50, thought he played much better against us last year.  Oddly enough, it was #11 who seemed to make the most impact in the game, that kid could play - opened things up and he seemed to hit some key shots even though he didn't have many points at the end of the day.   

CNU is very solid, but I've seen much better squads from them over the years.  Haven't seen Averett play yet, so I really couldn't say who should be at the top for now. 

SU... How was the officiating in this game?  I've heard it was something much less than stellar.

It seemed pretty balanced to me, it didn't seem like one team was called for more fouls than another. I was sitting in the stands with a local HS ref watching the game and he didn't indicate that there were any blatant bonehead calls.

[hasanova]

Hey SU97.  Trust me, there's some opposition to NCWC becoming a part of the UNC system, so it's just in exploratory stages right now.  If anything happens along those lines, it could take years.

[PrideFan1986]

Greensboro leads by 10 by a score 37-27. James Newman has 15 in the first and leading the cougars is Boor with 8

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Good win for the Pride tonight.  79-55.

[PrideFan1986]

With the big win tonight, The Pride move to a record of 11-3 and 2-0 in the conference. I tell you tonight is proberbly the best team effort that i have seen out of the Pride all season and I have been at all but a couple of game. So we need to move on with this win against the Cougars and move on  to our games next week.

WAY TO GO PRIDE GOOD LUCK NEXT WEEK!!!!!!

[narch]

With the big win tonight, The Pride move to a record of 11-3 and 2-0 in the conference. I tell you tonight is proberbly the best team effort that i have seen out of the Pride all season and I have been at all but a couple of game. So we need to move on with this win against the Cougars and move on  to our games next week.

WAY TO GO PRIDE GOOD LUCK NEXT WEEK!!!!!!

nice win for the pride, but which "proberb" is it that mentions college basketball???

[narch]

the monarchs beat fc 78-73 after being down 18 in the second half...you guys can take me off suicide watch

piedmont (which beat cnu tonight) on sunday...i hope they (mu) can make it 2 in row...

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

To let everyone know that follows my power rankings.  I tweaked them up again.  I put my numbers in from the games today.  I didn't like how it added up.  My old way would have kept CNU in second dropping AU all the way down to 3rd.  I couldn't see how the rankings could be valid with CNU only having 9 wins to 10 for AU.  My last tweak added an offense efficiency.  CNU has the best right now at 55% and CNU PPG shows that.  This new tweak was a defense efficiency and CNU is at 44% (the worst in the conference) which does reflect that they give up about the most at OPPG.  The new tweak takes the avg to get an "overall team efficiency" and i multiply it by my raw score.  To get my new rankings.  It looks like teams that are 50% on offense and 50% on defense are around .500 in terms of winning percentage.  I think that makes some sense.  Teams that tilt higher on either side (offense or defesnse) are above .500.

[leroy]

To let everyone know that follows my power rankings.  I tweaked them up again.  I put my numbers in from the games today.  I didn't like how it added up.  My old way would have kept CNU in second dropping AU all the way down to 3rd.  I couldn't see how the rankings could be valid with CNU only having 9 wins to 10 for AU.  My last tweak added an offense efficiency.  CNU has the best right now at 55% and CNU PPG shows that.  This new tweak was a defense efficiency and CNU is at 44% (the worst in the conference) which does reflect that they give up about the most at OPPG.  The new tweak takes the avg to get an "overall team efficiency" and i multiply it by my raw score.  To get my new rankings.  It looks like teams that are 50% on offense and 50% on defense are around .500 in terms of winning percentage.  I think that makes some sense.  Teams that tilt higher on either side (offense or defesnse) are above .500.

Let me get this straight...

You developed a statistical formula to rank the teams, then you looked at the results and disagreed with the statistical rankings (assumingly, based on your personal assumptions).  So then you tweaked a statistical variable to make the new rankings align similarly with your personal assumptions?

Why not just save yourself the trouble of crunching numbers all day and just publish a "personal assumptions ranking" instead of a "power ranking"?  I think the folks at the Gallup Organization would have issues with your process.

P.S. Narch- proberb...funny stuff.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

ah Leroy-

Here is the thing anyone who has followed my power ranking system knows that a) this is my first year and I still haven't gotten it right  b) the one I have been using actually predicted last year's USASouth standings.  C) if you look at one of my posts about last weeks d3hoops (it might have been the week before) I took the 3 teams that got 1st place votes and the order I thought closely related the competition they played.


I took a closer look at this "overall team efficiency" concept.  The average % follows the higher it is the higher where a team places in conference. (Last years standings)  Again though FC and SU again mess up the concept like before.  I guess those are outliers.  I have no idea.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I believe the moon most have aligned somwhere, there were quite a few upsets throughout college basketball.  #1 on both D1 sides both lost.  d3hoops main page filled with scores.  Any thoughts on why?