MBB: USA South Conference

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PrideSportBBallGuy

Quote from: notamensa on February 19, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
go to one of roundblls posts and click on his name. scroll to the bottom of the page and click on “show the last posts of this person.” then read the vile stream of “art” that he has directed at me without provocation. you are as disgusting as he is if you welcome the contribution he has made to this forum. i actually thought that you were the class of the usasac posters here, and said so defending you earlier this season. i guess i was wrong. if you would rather have roundbll than me, then fine, thats what you get. i have better things to do.

my last act here will be to smite narch and to applaud hasanova to triple-figures karma.

Nota-
Tough it out.  I have.  Narch has come after me so many times, so don't worry about it.  I am often attacked by people on this board.  I shrug my shoulders and keep on rolling. My opinions differ from many poster's.  (I will have my power rankings out today.)

PrideSportBBallGuy

Final Rankings of Regular Season.  The only true difference is the middle of the conference FC and MU are flipped flopped.  GC and AU are at the top but not in the order based on seeds.  Last year's final season will be posted with this one for something to comapare too.

Final Regular Season Power Rankings

Greensboro   8.691822
Averett   7.719468
CNU   4.941604
Ferrum   2.293334
Methodist   2.045350
NC Wesleyan   1.375615
Shenadoah   -2.554263


Last Year's Regular Season Power Rankings
CNU   9.82972683
Averett   8.915280922
Greensboro   4.198606729
Methodist   2.158875147
NC Wesleyan   0.206756786
Shenadoah   -0.590895449
Ferrum   -1.665859742


As you can see and most seem to agree the conference did improve as a whole. Showing that the top two teams aren't nearly has dominate has last year's top two teams.  Last year bottom two were swtiched (Again FC was in the middle of the mix-up...hmmm)

Narch-
I know you don't like the rankings and you will say its flawed.  I think FC and MU game will probably be the best game between the games Tuesday.


hasanova

Quote from: notamensa on February 19, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
go to one of roundblls posts and click on his name. scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "show the last posts of this person." then read the vile stream of "art" that he has directed at me without provocation. you are as disgusting as he is if you welcome the contribution he has made to this forum. i actually thought that you were the class of the usasac posters here, and said so defending you earlier this season. i guess i was wrong. if you would rather have roundbll than me, then fine, thats what you get. i have better things to do.

my last act here will be to smite narch and to applaud hasanova to triple-figures karma.
Hey, notamensa, thanks for the karma, but I think you're slightly off the mark here.  Narch IS one of the best, if not the best, posters on the USASAC, ODAC and other boards.  When he talks about MU, USASAC or DIII sports, people listen.  I know I do.  I got a chance to meet him in Fayetteville in late December and he's a good guy.  Look, here's the deal, both you and roundbll need to keep your posts on a higher level.  We don't care if both of you stick around, but sometimes your fellow posters just get weary of listening to unproductive posts.  There are some things you can't ignore, but most things you can.  :)  Sometimes, if a poster knows they can get under your skin, they keep coming with the same line over and over.  If they realize it has no effect, they stop.  Simple.

CNU85

Well, I made it to both games this weekend. Not really sure what to say. Greensboro is the best team I've seen this year. They were shooting the lights out!!! I think at one point in the second half they were 75% from three........6-8, if I remember right. With about 10 minutes left in the first half, I was trying to remember if I saw them miss a shot! They were scary good! The bad part about everything is, IF CNU can win Tuesday night (against a team they haven't figured out how to beat yetthis year) then our reward will be a rematch with GC on Friday.

I hope Korey is ready to play Tuesday. Or it's gonna be a LONG night (and a long off season).

hasanova

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Quote from: CNU85 on February 19, 2007, 11:31:38 AM
Well, I made it to both games this weekend. Not really sure what to say. Greensboro is the best team I've seen this year. They were shooting the lights out!!! I think at one point in the second half they were 75% from three........6-8, if I remember right. With about 10 minutes left in the first half, I was trying to remember if I saw them miss a shot! They were scary good! The bad part about everything is, IF CNU can win Tuesday night (against a team they haven't figured out how to beat yetthis year) then our reward will be a rematch with GC on Friday.

I hope Korey is ready to play Tuesday. Or it's gonna be a LONG night (and a long off season).
Greensboro is good.  I've seen them twice this season - against Guilford and Ferrum.  Guilford held off the Pride in OT, but Greensboro pretty much mopped up against the Panthers.  GCP has some skill players at a couple of positions, so pick your poison!

roundbll

Good luck to all this week.

It's going to be an exciting one, and if Greensboro continues to play the way they did Saturday, I don't see anyone in THIS conference stopping them.
Very strong, and deep as well.  So long as they can keep up with AU's fresh legs...
And I'm certain there are handicappers wo would be carefull not to count NCWC out either.
Having said that, you never do know which CNU team is going to show up for which games, so....
Like I said, should be fun to watch, and I have 3rd row center for all of it.

roundbll

Quote from: CNU85 on February 19, 2007, 11:31:38 AM
Well, I made it to both games this weekend. Not really sure what to say. Greensboro is the best team I've seen this year. They were shooting the lights out!!! I think at one point in the second half they were 75% from three........6-8, if I remember right. With about 10 minutes left in the first half, I was trying to remember if I saw them miss a shot! They were scary good! The bad part about everything is, IF CNU can win Tuesday night (against a team they haven't figured out how to beat yetthis year) then our reward will be a rematch with GC on Friday.

I hope Korey is ready to play Tuesday. Or it's gonna be a LONG night (and a long off season).
CNU85,
Korey was a hip injury.  Sounds like it may have been a bad bruise or something.

PrideSportBBallGuy

Karma for CNU85 and roundball...its great to hear CNU fans talk highly of Greensboro (finally)  :D

narch

Quote from: roundbll on February 19, 2007, 12:03:24 PMAnd I'm certain there are handicappers wo would be carefull not to count NCWC out either.
why ncwc and not the monarchs?

the general sentiment in here today seems to be that gc is the team to beat, meaning the monarchs theoretically have an easier draw (i don't agree with either of these statements, but i'm playing along) - so mu has an easier draw than ncwc - mu was a better team than ncwc this year as evidenced by a better conference record, better overall record and head-to-head results

if ncwc has a tougher draw and is not as good as mu, why would anyone count the monarchs out, but not the bishops?  it's clearly not their championship pedigree...there isn't a player on the ncwc team who has won a usasac championship...the monarchs have 3 sr's who have 2 rings and 2 juniors that have one - i don't think it's coaching...john thompson's teams have always been among the most talented and athletic in the league, yet he has exactly 1 regular season co-championship and 1 tournament championship - please explain why the 6th seeded bishops would be a bigger threat to win the tournament than the 4th seeded monarchs?

roundbll

Just calling it like we see it.
And you would have to be blind not to... see it, that is.

narch

Quote from: roundbll on February 19, 2007, 01:20:43 PM
Just calling it like we see it.
And you would have to be blind not to... see it, that is.
please, enlighten me then, because i don't see it...and i have 20/20 vision (well, technically it's only 20/20 when i'm wearing my contacts, but i wear them any time i'm not sleeping)

narch

Quote from: notamensa on February 19, 2007, 09:21:26 AMmy last act here will be to smite narch and to applaud hasanova to triple-figures karma.
it's really too bad you chose to leave this forum over something this petty - i've reviewed all of roundbll's posts, and he/she/it even admitted that the ribbing you were getting was because he/she/it liked to see your reactions...and i couldn't care less about my karma - i hope you'll reconsider, but if you don't, the forum will certainly go on without you

narch

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on February 19, 2007, 10:23:39 AM
Final Regular Season Power Rankings

Greensboro   8.691822
Averett   7.719468
CNU   4.941604
Ferrum   2.293334
Methodist   2.045350
NC Wesleyan   1.375615
Shenadoah   -2.554263

Narch-
I know you don't like the rankings and you will say its flawed.  I think FC and MU game will probably be the best game between the games Tuesday.
of course i'm going to have a problem with any system that is flawed

averett played a much more difficult schedule than gc and finished with the same conference record and virtually the same overall record (1 less win), yet gc is on top?

methodist played a much more difficult schedule than fc and finished with a better conference record and virtually the same overall record (1 less loss) and swept the season series with fc, yet fc is ranked ahead of mu?

if you're not looking at your formula with gc bias, how can you look at those numbers and NOT think the system is flawed?

narch

#2878
ok...i know you've all been waiting for this :)

here are my pvr values and rankings for each individual player (using conference only stats) - i've split them into groups of 5

here is the pvr formula - (ppg+rpg+spg)*1.5 + (apg+bpg)*2 - (topg)*1.5 = PVR

if you don't like the formula, make your own :) - it may be flawed, but it's well thought out and i've actually utilized input from a number of coaches and members of this and the odac board to develop this formula

1st 5
PLAYERPPGRPGSTEALSASSISTSBLOCKSTO'SPVR
LAWRENCE-SU1811.976242747.35
HALL-NCWC20.64.3305004344.06
BARTON-CNU15.731510433743.13
FAWEHINMI-SU19.46.5203154641.85
LEWIS-CNU18.88.259152741.75

2nd 5
PLAYERPPGRPGSTEALSASSISTSBLOCKSTO'SPVR
JONES-FC19.18.581573741.44
GODSEY-FC16.17.31922121641.14
BRIGHT-GC17.97.9151673639.91
NICHOLSON-GC165.3165433239.45
COLEMAN-NCWC11.310.8136231138.23

3rd 5
PLAYERPPGRPGSTEALSASSISTSBLOCKSTO'SPVR
SELDEN-CNU15.84.1225213437.18
BLASSINGAME-CNU9.89.1214501837.02
SHUFORD-MU10.59.9192671936.1
DRAKE-NCWC16.72.4333614133.81
RADMANOVIC-MU12.86.5101862830.7

narch

lastly - here are my all-conference picks

1st team - hall, lawrence, bright, barton, lewis
2nd team - fawehinmi, jones, nicholson, brown (au), coleman
hm - selden, blassingame, shuford, hagwood (au), radmanovic

co-poty - hall/lawrence (although bright will probably win)
coty - allen
foty - drake