MBB: USA South Conference

[roundbll]

What does it mean to "share" a conference title?
Only one team gets a ring at the end of the year.  THAT'S the conference champion.

[narch]

What does it mean to "share" a conference title?
Only one team gets a ring at the end of the year.  THAT'S the conference champion.

so who is the regular season champion this year?

the usasac crowns regular season co-champions in the case of a regular season tie and they crown a conference tournament champion

and i think both teams can get rings, but i could be wrong...

[roundbll]

What does it mean to "share" a conference title?
Only one team gets a ring at the end of the year.  THAT'S the conference champion.

so who is the regular season champion this year?

the usasac crowns regular season co-champions in the case of a regular season tie and they crown a conference tournament champion

and i think both teams can get rings, but i could be wrong...

I'm not sure myself.  I thought just the tourney winner gets rings. 
To answer your first question, I would assume the team that got the #1 seed in the tourney was the regular season champ.  There is a tie-breaker reason they have that seed, why shouldn't the same tie breaker rules be used to determine the champ?

[roundbll]

BTW,
In all the banter I failed to mention...  AU is one darn good looking team this year as well!
Again...should be one great show.

[narch]

There is a tie-breaker reason they have that seed, why shouldn't the same tie breaker rules be used to determine the champ?

the tie-breaker is ONLY for the purposes of determining seeding for the tournament...the usasac has decided to name co-champions, so au and gc are co-champions...there have been many such instances in usasac basketball history - i honestly think most other conferences name co-champions when there is a tie in regular season standings, as well, but i could be wrong

[roundbll]

Well... Good news for AU!

[Rikki_Tikki_Tavi]

Did I miss something, what happend to nota? I leave for 24 hours and whammy, he's gone!!

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Sorry Narch.
My post was in reply to PSBBG's post just prior to yours.
But to answer your quirry, Greensboro was simply the stronger team down the final stretch, and has the momentum going into the tourney.  That could all change as we all know... and I have 20/15 vision w/o contacts.

thanks for responding to my query, but it's time to get the eyes checked or got a new eye doctor

au won 7 straight to close the season (including a game against gc) while gc has won just 4 in a row going into the tournament - how does this make gc the "stronger team down the final stretch"?

i also think that au's experience in the conference tourney last year...a one point ot loss in the finals...will be valuable - correct me if i'm wrong, but i think the last time gc won an opening round conference tournament game was the 200-01 season

Narch-

I haven't called you out in a while. Thats is such a stupid stat 200"0"-01.  Greensboro hadn't had a winning season in such a long time.  (So they haven't had a high seed in a while. Grant it they didn't have a winning record that year either)

I am backing you up roundball (Darn backing up a CNU fan.)

AU has won 7 straight and on paper, yeah it looks like AU has made good run.  Take the last 10 games though.

GC 8-2 with a margin of victory of +9.4
AU 8-2 with a margin of victory of +5.5

GC is making a good run.  Ok so take out SOVA game (Pride won by 23)  7-2 with a +7.8 margin of victory.  Ok so you want 10 games ok adding in FC and still leaving out SOVA 7-3 with a margin of victory of +6.

On average I would say Greensboro made a better run.

[narch]

Narch-

I haven't called you out in a while. Thats is such a stupid stat 200"0"-01.  Greensboro hadn't had a winning season in such a long time.  (So they haven't had a high seed in a while. Grant it they didn't have a winning record that year either)

how can a stat be stupid?

the pride have no history of tournament success and no pride player has ever won a conference tournament game, while au was ever-so-close last year, losing a 1 point overtime conference final to the homestanding captains...you can choose to ignore the stats that you don't like, but i clearly see the relevance of tournament experience...au has it, gc doesn't (unless you count possible juco tournament success)

by the way, i think the word you're looking for is granted...

AU has won 7 straight and on paper, yeah it looks like AU has made good run.  Take the last 10 games though......On average I would say Greensboro made a better run.

there are lies, there are damn lies, then there are statistics...

are we talking about closing the season or are we talking about the last 40% of the season?...i was specifically looking at how the teams FINISHED and you have to go back 8 games to find the last cougar loss, you only have to go back 5 games to find the last pride loss...last i checked 8 was bigger than 5, thus the cougars are riding a longer winning streak, thus the cougars closed the season out in stronger fashion - twist the numbers however you want, but au finished the 2nd half of the conference season undeafeted, the pride did not

[pride1fan]

granted, you are a tool.

[narch]

when i was looking at numbers over the weekend and today for PVR calculation, there was a player whose numbers struck me as really amazing

gc senior james newman was hm all-conference last year, and i remember thinking he was a pretty nice all-around player - here are his numbers from 2005-2007

19 games/18 starts, 29.7 ppg, 15.1 ppg

here are his numbers this year

19 games/2 starts, 11.6 mpg, 5.1 ppg

i'm sure that he was perfectly happy this season because he got a share of a conference championship, but this is exactly why i don't like the "win-at-all-cost" mentality of recruiting transfers...this is a kid who busted his hump for 2 years after transferring from uncg, comes up big as a junior and really carried the team early in the year until the ringer enrolled (he was gc's high scorer in 4 of 8 pre-berg games) and is rewarded with approximately 1/3 of the minutes he played as a junior?  i'm all for playing your best 5, but recruiting over an all-conference performer just doesn't seem like it jives with the d3 philosophy, to me...nor does having a roster with 8 transfers and 6 who came directly out of high school

[narch]

granted, you are a tool.

just so i know...what type of tool am i?  can i at least be a cool power tool...maybe an electric chain saw or one of those pneumatic sockets?

oh and i think you'll really like my latest post

who do you think will win the conference championship and why?

[pride1fan]

Well i really hope GC wins, but CNU.

[SU97]

Man, it's too close to call for the tourney.  I think an AU-GC showdown would be a great final, but I think that CNU (with Lewis off the DL) could play spoiler as the home team - at a nuetral site of course... 

So - I am going with AU as my pick, because I think that CNU-GC semi will be a slugfest and the winner will be running on empty going into the final.

Although it would be sweet to see SU go bonkers and take the whole thing with the 1-11 record...   

[SU97]

What's up with notamensa?  I went back to catch up on posts and he's listed as "guest" or something?  Tough it out killer and get back on the board.