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PrideSportBBallGuy

The USASouth released its all-conference teams.  So I put together a little thing I call the USASouth "How Accurate Were You?"

The scoring is based that you get +2 for each player you get right within the team you picked (Right player (+1) Right team (+1))

+1 then for right player not right team.

+3 for getting player of the year correct and +3 for coach and +3 for rookie .  (You could get a total of 5 for each POTY and ROTY) Out of a total of 36 pts here is "How Accurate Were You?"

1st Narch 69.4%
2nd PSBBG 63.8%
3rd Notamensa 58.3%

(Note: Narch nota probably would have beaten both of us had he picked COTY, POTY, ROTY without it he did really well.)

If it weren't for the "bonus" (COTY, POTY, ROTY I would have beaten you by 1 point Narch ;D)

You can double check my math, if you would like anybody

Sorry Rikki-Tikki didn't include you.  You only had the first team.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: CNU85 on February 21, 2007, 08:47:18 AM
27 turnovers and NCW had 7 steals....34 trips down the floor with no points....

That's only 27 trips with no points. The seven steals essentially represent seven forced turnovers and the other 20 are unforced turnovers.
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Showstoppa

Hey PSBBG, who was the coach of the year?  It certainly couldn't have been Allen, that would be preposterous.

AUHoops

Yo PSBBG Jimmy Allen dosn't deserve coach of the year because AU lost to Shenadoah? Did you really say and mean that. Cedric Jones got robed of 1st team by the way. Has any one  herd what was the deal with Lawerence last night?

CNU85

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2007, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 21, 2007, 08:47:18 AM
27 turnovers and NCW had 7 steals....34 trips down the floor with no points....

That's only 27 trips with no points. The seven steals essentially represent seven forced turnovers and the other 20 are unforced turnovers.

oops...thanks - I had forgotten that steals were counted in the TO stat.....even so......27 is way too many to win!!

PrideSportBBallGuy

Quote from: AUHoops on February 21, 2007, 02:28:22 PM
Yo PSBBG Jimmy Allen dosn't deserve coach of the year because AU lost to Shenadoah? Did you really say and mean that. Cedric Jones got robed of 1st team by the way. Has any one  herd what was the deal with Lawerence last night?

That was one of the reasons why.  I also said because AU did what many expected that he shouldn't get it.  GC has had a losing record for so many years and managed to get first place (co-first place) to overlook that is ridiculous.  If anything there should have been co-coaches of the year.  They do it on the women's side of USASouth in the past.

I am the guy that says if you did better or showed vast improvement from the year before you should get it. AU didn't do that. But again I am also the guy that says if you repeat as champs you should get it too. I take improvement like that to be above that.

Showstoppa

Bball guy the award is '' Coach of the year'' Not ''Recruiter of the year'' and yes i understand that recruiting is part of coaching but doesn't pertain to this award. The fact is the pride had alot of new kids playing this year and alot of player who might be more talented than the AU but the AU team tied for conference because they were better coached.

We should be focusing on more important topics like the 150 people that are going to show up to the Championship between AU and GC on CNU's Floor



Rikki_Tikki_Tavi

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on February 21, 2007, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: AUHoops on February 21, 2007, 02:28:22 PM
Yo PSBBG Jimmy Allen dosn't deserve coach of the year because AU lost to Shenadoah? Did you really say and mean that. Cedric Jones got robed of 1st team by the way. Has any one  herd what was the deal with Lawerence last night?

That was one of the reasons why.  I also said because AU did what many expected that he shouldn't get it.  GC has had a losing record for so many years and managed to get first place (co-first place) to overlook that is ridiculous.  If anything there should have been co-coaches of the year.  They do it on the women's side of USASouth in the past.

I am the guy that says if you did better or showed vast improvement from the year before you should get it. AU didn't do that. But again I am also the guy that says if you repeat as champs you should get it too. I take improvement like that to be above that.

I hope you realize that I doubt they take into consideration what happened 10 years ago. I have to think they look at changes from last year to this year, along with who didnt return, etc.

Rikki_Tikki_Tavi

Quote from: Showstoppa on February 21, 2007, 03:38:57 PM
Bball guy the award is '' Coach of the year'' Not ''Recruiter of the year'' and yes i understand that recruiting is part of coaching but doesn't pertain to this award. The fact is the pride had alot of new kids playing this year and alot of player who might be more talented than the AU but the AU team tied for conference because they were better coached.

We should be focusing on more important topics like the 150 people that are going to show up to the Championship between AU and GC on CNU's Floor

150?? You think there will be that many people there?? Not counting the players, and staff?!?!?!  ;)

PrideSportBBallGuy

Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 21, 2007, 03:54:50 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on February 21, 2007, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: AUHoops on February 21, 2007, 02:28:22 PM
Yo PSBBG Jimmy Allen dosn't deserve coach of the year because AU lost to Shenadoah? Did you really say and mean that. Cedric Jones got robed of 1st team by the way. Has any one  herd what was the deal with Lawerence last night?

That was one of the reasons why.  I also said because AU did what many expected that he shouldn't get it.  GC has had a losing record for so many years and managed to get first place (co-first place) to overlook that is ridiculous.  If anything there should have been co-coaches of the year.  They do it on the women's side of USASouth in the past.

I am the guy that says if you did better or showed vast improvement from the year before you should get it. AU didn't do that. But again I am also the guy that says if you repeat as champs you should get it too. I take improvement like that to be above that.

I hope you realize that I doubt they take into consideration what happened 10 years ago. I have to think they look at changes from last year to this year, along with who didnt return, etc.

I am not even saying 10 years ago really.  Yeah its been that long, but GC had a LOSING RECORD last year. FIRST PLACE this year. How does that not warrant something? That is the last I am going to say about that.

How many coach awards are given in any other sport, college/pro where every year the coach of the year is the same coach because they finished first again.  If that were Joe Torre he would have shelf load of awards. It doesn't work that way.  I would say most times coach of the year goes to the coach that did better than expected or took a good team and made them win a championship.

CNU85

Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 21, 2007, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on February 21, 2007, 03:38:57 PM
Bball guy the award is '' Coach of the year'' Not ''Recruiter of the year'' and yes i understand that recruiting is part of coaching but doesn't pertain to this award. The fact is the pride had alot of new kids playing this year and alot of player who might be more talented than the AU but the AU team tied for conference because they were better coached.

We should be focusing on more important topics like the 150 people that are going to show up to the Championship between AU and GC on CNU's Floor

150?? You think there will be that many people there?? Not counting the players, and staff?!?!?!  ;)

I estimated 90 a few days ago!!

Showstoppa

Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 21, 2007, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on February 21, 2007, 03:38:57 PM
Bball guy the award is '' Coach of the year'' Not ''Recruiter of the year'' and yes i understand that recruiting is part of coaching but doesn't pertain to this award. The fact is the pride had alot of new kids playing this year and alot of player who might be more talented than the AU but the AU team tied for conference because they were better coached.

We should be focusing on more important topics like the 150 people that are going to show up to the Championship between AU and GC on CNU's Floor

150?? You think there will be that many people there?? Not counting the players, and staff?!?!?!  ;)

I know its not alot but people like my self and alot of other AU fan and I'm sure GC fans won't be able to make it cause of  the distance,  how did it happen that CNU gets to host two years in a row, most conferences I know go by top seed or a neutral site that is in the middle of most of the conference schools?

PrideSportBBallGuy

So I guess everyone has heard that there will be FREE live video stream of the semi-finals and finals of the USASouth.  If not it is on the website (usasouth.net)

It looks like though d3hoops hasn't gotten.  I kept looking for it.  I think this video stream idea is big news, but because I don't have access to releasing press releases, I can't release it.  Hopefully somebody will.
This could get the conference some exposure.

Showstoppa-
I think neutral site all the way.  Closer to the Carolina region. Think about it the only two schools that have to travel really travel than are CNU and SU. Whats the Average distance in miles in hours of all the teams in the semi-finals this year.

SU97

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on February 20, 2007, 10:38:00 PM
About the GC-SU game.  Great game tonight...well for GC.  I thought there was gonna be fight tonight, oh between the two coaches.  It was a very physical game and from what I heard it was real physical up at SU, maybe SU97 can verify that.  Its like a rival game or something.  GC and NCWC on friday.

Not too much history w/GC. The last three years GC has had our number - going 6-0 vs. the Hornets.  But over the past 10 years before that it's leaned toward SU by a 14-6 margin.  I honestly don't ever remember SU and GC having any type of rivalry in bball.  We are just programed to hate the Captains!   ;)

Yep, I was at the game on Friday night.  What you are referring to is one of the GC kids threw out a hard blatant foul and knocked Kenny to the floor. From my vantage point it was a really dirty play. Then coach Harris jumped up and started yelling at the GC coach to get his team under control. The fans started clapping and it was the most emotion I've seen from SU all year, unfortunately a tad too late.  But then I heard this week that the same GC player who fouled Kenny also threw a haymaker at our point guard down in Greensboro earlier in the year, but the kid missed. I can only guess it was a culmination of all those things together.  But yeah, it was a real physical game.

I didn't get a chance to listen to Tuesday night's game, so I didn't know anything went down in Greensboro - I was at the SU girls game watching them steal one from Methodist!  ;D  Sorry Narch couldn't help it...


PrideSportBBallGuy

Quote from: SU97 on February 21, 2007, 08:14:09 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on February 20, 2007, 10:38:00 PM
About the GC-SU game.  Great game tonight...well for GC.  I thought there was gonna be fight tonight, oh between the two coaches.  It was a very physical game and from what I heard it was real physical up at SU, maybe SU97 can verify that.  Its like a rival game or something.  GC and NCWC on friday.

Not too much history w/GC. The last three years GC has had our number - going 6-0 vs. the Hornets.  But over the past 10 years before that it's leaned toward SU by a 14-6 margin.  I honestly don't ever remember SU and GC having any type of rivalry in bball.  We are just programed to hate the Captains!   ;)

Yep, I was at the game on Friday night.  What you are referring to is one of the GC kids threw out a hard blatant foul and knocked Kenny to the floor. From my vantage point it was a really dirty play. Then coach Harris jumped up and started yelling at the GC coach to get his team under control. The fans started clapping and it was the most emotion I've seen from SU all year, unfortunately a tad too late.  But then I heard this week that the same GC player who fouled Kenny also threw a haymaker at our point guard down in Greensboro earlier in the year, but the kid missed. I can only guess it was a culmination of all those things together.  But yeah, it was a real physical game.

I didn't get a chance to listen to Tuesday night's game, so I didn't know anything went down in Greensboro - I was at the SU girls game watching them steal one from Methodist!  ;D  Sorry Narch couldn't help it...



Well a GC player fouled an SU player trying to block a shot it wasn't intentional by any means. He did get a piece of him and a SU player stood up and confronted him (You know chest to chest there were technicals called.) Our player just walked away.  I don't consider us a rival but as physical as the games you would think so.