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CaptJ

Quote from: CNU85 on February 23, 2008, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: CaptJ on February 23, 2008, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 23, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
Hey...CNU gets a home game Tuesday....Gotta call the Freeman tomorrow for tix.
Get me one and we'll sit together.  Actually, get me two.

I'll get 6
Tell Francis to give you my wife's 6 seats.  They are all in a row, seats 33-38.
National champions 2022/23

CNU85

Quote from: CaptJ on February 24, 2008, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 23, 2008, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: CaptJ on February 23, 2008, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 23, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
Hey...CNU gets a home game Tuesday....Gotta call the Freeman tomorrow for tix.
Get me one and we'll sit together.  Actually, get me two.

I'll get 6
Tell Francis to give you my wife's 6 seats.  They are all in a row, seats 33-38.

Section D...Row B?? Did I remember correctly?

Rikki_Tikki_Tavi

Quote from: CaptJ on February 18, 2008, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 18, 2008, 02:52:24 PM
As for Methodist on Saturday, if we win at Greensboro Friday, yeah I would be scared too, but if we get drilled....5-7 it is.

I don't agree with that, mongoose.  I think there is a chance we could make the top-4 at 6-6, and that our guys will fight for every point they can get.  We are a different team than we were a month ago.  Whinnett has learned what Captain's basketball is all about, and his intensity is rubbing off on the entire team (with the possible exception of C. Taylor, who seemed completely uninterested most of the time this weekend).  And even if we DON'T get the home game, I'm still not giving up on this team.  We can win on the road, except maybe in Rocky Mount, and thank God we won't have to play there again this year.

Drilled at Methodist it is! LOL  ;D

SU97

1-1 over the weekend keeps the Hornets at home tuesday, I think our coaching staff has to be very content with that result.  Big congrats to coach Harris for career win #100!

Narch - congrats to your MU squad on taking home the silverware. Sounds like SU had a shot at you guys but couldn't put it together at the end friday night.  Hope you're feeling better - a first round bye has to help just as much as the meds... ;)

What a crazy year...  how did CNU turn it around to grab a first round home game??  And AU's collapse is something that I don't think anyone saw coming... 

Hornets host GC tuesday!


CNU One

After starting the season the way we did, I never would have predicted CNU getting a first round home game. But this just means I get to watch AU choke in the last few mins again. haha

CaptJ

Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 24, 2008, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: CaptJ on February 18, 2008, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 18, 2008, 02:52:24 PM
As for Methodist on Saturday, if we win at Greensboro Friday, yeah I would be scared too, but if we get drilled....5-7 it is.

I don't agree with that, mongoose.  I think there is a chance we could make the top-4 at 6-6, and that our guys will fight for every point they can get.  We are a different team than we were a month ago.  Whinnett has learned what Captain's basketball is all about, and his intensity is rubbing off on the entire team (with the possible exception of C. Taylor, who seemed completely uninterested most of the time this weekend).  And even if we DON'T get the home game, I'm still not giving up on this team.  We can win on the road, except maybe in Rocky Mount, and thank God we won't have to play there again this year.

Drilled at Methodist it is! LOL  ;D
I'm not sure what it is that you are saying...
National champions 2022/23

CaptJ

Quote from: CNU One on February 25, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
After starting the season the way we did, I never would have predicted CNU getting a first round home game. But this just means I get to watch AU choke in the last few mins again. haha
We do seem to have their number, but I still wish that you hadn't said that out loud!
National champions 2022/23

CaptJ

Quote from: CNU85 on February 24, 2008, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: CaptJ on February 24, 2008, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 23, 2008, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: CaptJ on February 23, 2008, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 23, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
Hey...CNU gets a home game Tuesday....Gotta call the Freeman tomorrow for tix.
Get me one and we'll sit together.  Actually, get me two.

I'll get 6
Tell Francis to give you my wife's 6 seats.  They are all in a row, seats 33-38.

Section D...Row B?? Did I remember correctly?
Yup
National champions 2022/23

narch

final pvr calculations:

PLAYER      PPG   RPG   STEALS   APG   BLOCKS   TO'S   PVR
LAWRENCE   SU   20   12.8   16   0.4   17   35   50.5
BARTON   CNU   20.2   5.9   20   7.3   0   49   50.1
RUMLEY   AU   15.9   7.3   30   5.9   4   41   45.9
NICHOLSON   GC   20.3   4.5   15   4.3   1   40   42.8
WHINNETT   CNU   16.8   8.6   14   1.8   7   18   42.4

MITCHELL   FC   13.3   12.5   17   0.7   10   36   39.4
McDADE   MU   17.4   5.7   7   1.2   18   27   37.6
ONUNAKU   SU   12.7   9.9   19   2.4   10   45   37.1
HALL   NCWC   15.6   3.1   31   4.3   0   41   35.4
CRUMP   FC   18.1   3.8   18   1.8   1   35   34.5

COLEMAN   NCWC   11.7   8.2   12   0.8   13   16   33.1
SHUFORD   MU   10.1   7.6   23   2.8   11   36   32.4
SMITH   MU   15.8   3   14   3.3   4   42   32
ARRINGTON   NCWC   16.1   3.7   7   0.7   4   8   31.6
GREEN   CNU   11.3   6.9   11   0.3   12   12   29.8

GODSEY   FC   12.5   4.8   12   1.1   9   17   29
DRAKE   NCWC   12.5   4.1   18   2.8   2   33   28.9
TAYLOR   CNU   12.8   3.5   18   1.6   3   15   28.5
MCDANIEL   AU   13.1   3   23   1.3   4   24   27.3
McBRYDE   MU   10.8   5.3   4   0.3   23   16   27.1

CNU One

Quote from: CaptJ on February 25, 2008, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: CNU One on February 25, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
After starting the season the way we did, I never would have predicted CNU getting a first round home game. But this just means I get to watch AU choke in the last few mins again. haha
We do seem to have their number, but I still wish that you hadn't said that out loud!

Trust me, thats nothing compared to what we were saying to the players during the game last time we played them.

narch

#3895
here are my all-conference selections/predictions:

1st team
lawrence, su - poty
barton, cnu
nicholson, gc
rumley, au
mcdade, mu

2nd team
whinnett, cnu
onunaku, su
hall, ncwc
crump, fc
mitchell, fc - roty

honorable mention
arrington, ncwc
smith, mu
shuford, mu
green, cnu
coleman, ncwc

coty - bill tharp, fc

toughest choices were between whinnett and mcdade, with mcdade getting the edge as a superior scorer and shot blocker on the #1 seeded team - smith vs. mitchell for roty was another tough choice, and despite my green and gold tinted glasses, mitchell's numbers (especially his rebounding numbers) were just too impressive

SU97


here are my all-conference selections/predictions:

1st team
JLawrence, su - poty
barton, cnu
nicholson, gc
mcdade, mu
mitchell, fc - roty

2nd team
onunaku, su
rumley, au
whinnett, cnu
hall, ncwc
crump, fc


honorable mention
arrington, ncwc
smith, mu
shuford, mu
mcbryde, mu
coleman, ncwc

coty - bill tharp, fc

I agree with about 90% of what Narch said. My toughest call was with FC, they deserved someone on the first team.  Mitchell played like a man possessed against SU and I was just amazed that this kid is only a freshman.  I also give him the nod for the ROTY. (Not taking anything away from MU's Smith - he put on a show at SU and from the weekend's stat line had another career day against the hornets friday night...)  I don't see much in the MCDade/Winnett arguement.  McDade is pure class - lots of range and a great touch - and led the Monarchs to the championship.  He shot .444 from 3pt... I'm sure Winnett will get his due and will probably end up on the first team next year.  He really came on at the end of the season and gave CNU a shot at a home game.  Hall and Nicholson were a tougher call to me - I went with Nicholson because he led the conference in scoring.  Unfortunately for the home team, Onyie gets shafted...  these things are all about stats and Onyie had to give up some points/rebounds because the coaching staff asked him to adjust to do different things because of the challenges we had with some inexperience.  Good for the Hornets - but Onyie's stat line suffered in conference play.  He still averaged 12.7 pts (14th) and 9.9 rebounds (3rd) while having to play all five positions at times.  I heard his play over the weekend was stellar and his inbounds play near the end of the game against GC was one for the ages...  still, much better for the team and a lot better than 1-11 last year!!  Lastly, I really liked McBryde for MU - led the league in blocks too - and should get some conference recognition.  I couldn't take Shuford out - he's still my favorite player (outside of the Hornets squad of course) in the league - so MU has 3 guys on the honorable mention team.

narch

'97 - i like your analysis of the monarch post talent (mcbryde and shuford) - look at mcbryde's production per minute...nobody in the top 30 among pvr calculations played as few minutes as he did (21.1 mpg)...he was a real spark-plug coming off the bench for mu - arrington came the closest to replicating his production in limited time, at just under 25 mpg

i was trying to carve out a spot on my first team all-conference team for onyie...i've made no secret of my man-crush for his game...but ultimately, as you pointed out, the numbers just weren't as spectacular for him as they were for guys like rumley and nicholson - i'm really disappointed that this nasty flu kept me away from the games this weekend, especially the friday night game - i really wanted another chance to see onyie and lawrence play...they are special players

SU97

Quote from: narch on February 25, 2008, 08:27:14 PM
i was trying to carve out a spot on my first team all-conference team for onyie...i've made no secret of my man-crush for his game...but ultimately, as you pointed out, the numbers just weren't as spectacular for him as they were for guys like rumley and nicholson - i'm really disappointed that this nasty flu kept me away from the games this weekend, especially the friday night game - i really wanted another chance to see onyie and lawrence play...they are special players

That's one of the questions about how they select all-conference, especially in a year as close as this.

numbers, numbers, numbers...

Do they take into account the team performance - which is why I went with Mitchell over Rumley...  Mitchell, while putting up strong numbers (Rbs/2nd, Pts/11th), led the conference in defensive rebounds and helped his team to a co-champ.  Rumly had slightly better offensive numbers (Ast/2nd, Pts/8th, Stl/2nd) but AU's tie for 5th/6th place looms...  but could the same argument can be made for/against Nicholson, who led the league in scoring for most of the year (Pts/1st, Ast/4th) but his GC squad finished tied with Averett?  What about Hall and Arrington from NCWC?  Arrington acctually averaged more pts in less minutes...  who knows

I think Barton ( Pts/2nd, Ast/1st) would have to be a lock even without the CNU revival. JLawrence STUD. (Pts/3rd, Rbs/1st)  McDade gets the nod for his outside game (leading in 3pt made and 2nd in %) while still making a difference overall (blks/3rd, Pts/5th, rbs/13th).

Pat Coleman

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