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Dr. Acula

And there it is....Mount at JCU is PPD already.

motorman

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Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2014, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 20, 2014, 07:37:34 PM
Yes Dr, I imagine it will be Thomas/Huber Sat.

Marietta split with Laroche. Wonder how Byers gets the win only pitching 3 innings? I assume he started, know he wasn't the last pitcher.


Oh, and grow up. Northland is 1-8 against mostly non power teams. Kenyon swept them. So yes, they are pretty much a rec program. That's all I was saying.


Why don't you grow up. I'm not the one claiming to be an expert on everything from baseball to when kids should be in class. Guess your Ph D in Education lets you make those statements. It's ok for Manchester kids to miss class, but not ok for OWU and Heidelberg? For your information the OWU-Berg game that got rained out was at 4pm so I doubt it affected OWU players class schedule and Berg kids probably didn't leave until noon so they could have gone to morning classes too.

I just was trying to preempt the crap that Berg is putting up offensive numbers against only inferior teams. Northland is the exception. Ohio Wesleyan's pitching numbers were very similar to Marietta's before yesterday.

That stuff about being on a pitch count and still getting the win is a pile of crap. So if they said he was only on a 15 pitch count he still could get the win? It's always been a rule of scoring that I've known that a starter has to pitch more than half the game to get a win no matter what the situation.

Berg vs BW is going to take place tomorrow at Oberlin. Can't wait to hear what a big advantage it is for Berg since that's one less road DH in conference. Never mind that they gave up home dates vs Adrian and OWU this week to get the games in.

motorman

#2207
At least one organization has recognized what Heidelberg is doing. ABCA coaches poll has them at #16 ahead of Case (#26) and Mount Union among ORV.

Make that 2, Massey ratings have Heidelberg #11, Mount Union #18, and Marietta #21. Also, Case at #25.

http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2014&sub=11620

Spence

Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 21, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
I only root for Ott outside the OAC.  I'm not a fan of Powell after that hazing incident so it's easy for me to root against them.

Good point.

Spence

Quote from: motorman on March 21, 2014, 09:09:15 PM
At least one organization has recognized what Heidelberg is doing. ABCA coaches poll has them at #16 ahead of Case (#26) and Mount Union among ORV.

Make that 2, Massey ratings have Heidelberg #11, Mount Union #18, and Marietta #21. Also, Case at #25.

http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2014&sub=11620

Massey's ratings are annually poor for D-III baseball (bad enough that they really make me wonder about them as a former BCS component), and are missing all kinds of results right now as well. Not your first choice if you're looking to support anything right now.

Hard to say right now what the regional rankings would look like if they happened to come out next week, but likely 3 of the top 4 would be from the OAC. What order those would be in is probably anyone's guess.

Spence

Quote from: motorman on March 21, 2014, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2014, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 20, 2014, 07:37:34 PM
Yes Dr, I imagine it will be Thomas/Huber Sat.

Marietta split with Laroche. Wonder how Byers gets the win only pitching 3 innings? I assume he started, know he wasn't the last pitcher.


Oh, and grow up. Northland is 1-8 against mostly non power teams. Kenyon swept them. So yes, they are pretty much a rec program. That's all I was saying.


Why don't you grow up. I'm not the one claiming to be an expert on everything from baseball to when kids should be in class. Guess your Ph D in Education lets you make those statements. It's ok for Manchester kids to miss class, but not ok for OWU and Heidelberg? For your information the OWU-Berg game that got rained out was at 4pm so I doubt it affected OWU players class schedule and Berg kids probably didn't leave until noon so they could have gone to morning classes too.

I just was trying to preempt the crap that Berg is putting up offensive numbers against only inferior teams. Northland is the exception. Ohio Wesleyan's pitching numbers were very similar to Marietta's before yesterday.

That stuff about being on a pitch count and still getting the win is a pile of crap. So if they said he was only on a 15 pitch count he still could get the win? It's always been a rule of scoring that I've known that a starter has to pitch more than half the game to get a win no matter what the situation.

Berg vs BW is going to take place tomorrow at Oberlin. Can't wait to hear what a big advantage it is for Berg since that's one less road DH in conference. Never mind that they gave up home dates vs Adrian and OWU this week to get the games in.

Well what do you want to do, penalize the guy for being the starting pitcher? If it's a staff game, doing it the traditional way is only saying "you can't be the winner even if you're the best pitcher (which Byers obviously was) because your coach decided to start the game with you." That's the reason for the rule. My source is an NCAA official scorer who also works minor league games. So I'll take over "always that you've known." Do you do a lot of official scoring?

And yes if you had a guy throw 1 inning on a 15 pitch pitch count and he was the most effective pitcher, he could get the win. Schaly broke up some games with 9 guys throwing an inning apiece. Someone's gotta get the win, why shouldn't the starter have the same chance as the other guys?

There's no getting around that it looks pretty bad to try to play ball and only get 3 batters in. Someone obviously screwed up there pretty bad, probably a couple of someones. Most other teams called off pretty early, IIRC, if not the day before. That was a waste of time for the players when they could have been studying or in class or writing papers or relaxing or lifting or whatever. Very poor planning, and I don't know how you can argue otherwise.

motorman

Sounds like a cheap way of padding your stats for your best pitcher.

Of course the ranking system that has mighty Marietta ranked the lowest is flawed.

Spence

It is the rule, whatever you think of it. You're not the first person to not like it, but doing the opposite penalizes a player for a coach's plan. That doesn't seem very fair to me.

And I've railed against Massey and Boydsworld (who doesn't post D3 rankings anymore; seems he agreed with me that his rankings were flawed) for years.

Spence

#2213
And the live stream at Oberlin lasts a whole inning and one batter. EDIT: seems to be working again, sporadically. That or someone is taking an ungodly amount of time between pitches.

Guess that's what you get when you play an OAC doubleheader at an NCAC site. Can't believe that's happening.

Spence

Otterbein's Collier leaves the game in the 4th with a knee injury up 4-0 with the bases loaded. Marietta scored 4 in the inning and now leads 6-4 as MC is pounding the reliever.

Hopefully Collier is able to recover this season.

Dr. Acula

Cap picks up the first win of this OAC season 9-4 over Musky.  Crusaders plated 7 in the first 2 innings to take control right away. 

ONU leads Wilm 4-2 in the 8th behind a pretty nice start from Eltzroth (5.2 IP, ER).

Been listening to the Etta/Ott game.  Too bad about Collier.  He sounded pretty good today until that bum wheel. 


Dr. Acula

This is getting ridiculous...while the other 8 play today now the Mount @ JCU DH that was pushed to Sunday has already been called off AGAIN now with no make up date set.  Maybe they can drive back to West Mifflin HS so they can at least play a game.  Haha. 

Dr. Acula

Quote from: EttaFan1 on March 18, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
If Berg doesn't beat themselves and gets a solid start from their #2 guy, I see them getting a sweep in Berea.

Pretty much what has happened so far.  Huber was solid in game 2 going 5 and giving up 1 ER.  To probably none of our surprise, BW continues to struggle with their starting pitching.  Capadona went 3 innings in game 2 walking/hitting numerous batters.  An errant pickoff throw also scored a Berg run before he departed.  Neither team played great D in the opener (errors led to 4 unearned runs for each team) and both teams have multiple miscues in game 2 as well.

Musky salvages the split at home with a 8-5 win.  ONU on their way to the predictable sweep of Wilm (6-1 bot 7).

 

Spence

Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 22, 2014, 03:58:02 PM
This is getting ridiculous...while the other 8 play today now the Mount @ JCU DH that was pushed to Sunday has already been called off AGAIN now with no make up date set.  Maybe they can drive back to West Mifflin HS so they can at least play a game.  Haha.

I'd do this before I'd do what B-W did and give up home field. They still managed a split, but you never know what might have happened on a field they know better. Lot of errors on both teams in the doubleheader.

Spence

#2219
Marietta shrugged off a rough first inning at Otterbein to sweep 10-6, 4-2. Herstine with the complete game two.

Otterbein came out swinging the sticks, putting 4 runs on Jason Byers in the first. But like Brewer said, with the 9 inning first game, there's no need to hit the panic button, and Byers was solid from there through six. The relief pitching was wild at times, but good enough.

After last year's OAC tournament, today had to feel good for the Etta Express.