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Denison leading Oberlin by 15 in the 2nd half.

woosterbooster

Quote from: wabco on January 08, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
Good game Wabash ... too bad you cannot say the same for the referees.

Eh, wabco?  Whatcha say?

Li'l Giant

That call after the ref's conference was confusing. I'm not sure what happened there. Not complaining necessarily because I simply don't know what the call actually was. There wasn't a foul there so what could it have been? It didn't make sense. Either way, one call doesn't change a game like this. Wabash waited too long to try to get back into this game.

Kudos to Wooster for taking control right out of halftime. They built and protected their lead for a good long while. Wabash couldn't eat into that lead because Wooster kept answering when they needed to. Seemed like it was never going to get inside 9 points.

Kudos to Wabash for getting back into the game and having a chance to win in the final minute. I just wish they had started that run a minute sooner.

It just goes to show you have to play a perfect game to beat Wooster no matter how good you are. It's never good enough if you don't play perfectly.

Wabash just missed too many shots. LGs outrebounded and had nearly half the turnovers as Wooster.

And I'm really not trying to pick on the kid but Sutherlin went 0-6 a game after going 0-7. You can beat Denison with your third banana throwing up a goose egg but you're not going to beat Wooster. I'm beginning to wonder if Bailey isn't taking that third banana role from AJ here. Bailey was only 2-6 but hit a bunch of FTs and ended up in double digits. Hope AJ can get his stroke back because something is not right.

Great comeback to make an exciting finish. Wabash Always Fights!
"I believe in God and I believe I'm gonna go to Heaven, but if something goes wrong and I end up in Hell, I know it's gonna be me and a bunch of D3 officials."---Erik Raeburn

Quote from: sigma one on October 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AMI don't drink with the enemy, and I don't drink lattes at all, with anyone.

bashbrother

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Quote from: wabco on January 08, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
Good game Wabash ... too bad you cannot say the same for the referees.

I don't blame them, I just want to know what the call was and why the time that expired after the whistle blew was not put back on the clock.  If there was a foul... then fine.... but Wabash stole the ball and missed a shot while running the clock..... (at least 4 seconds)  If you go back to the whistle..... put the time back on the clock. This is obviously not a DI situation.  In DI, the refs would have gone to the monitor and made sure they got everything straight.

The story of this game was Wabash did not shoot well enough...and Wooster did...............Period.

Congrats to the Scots!... Some team.  Congrats to the Little Giants for battling down the stretch and having a shot to win the game as time expires....
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

woosterbooster

Steve Moore said in the post-game interview that the refs stopped the game because the Wabash scorekeeper did not start the clock.  So, possession was given back to Wooster, who had the ball at the time of this infraction, and two seconds was removed from the game clock because it should have started.

ScotsFan

Quote from: Li'l Giant on January 08, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
That call after the ref's conference was confusing. I'm not sure what happened there. Not complaining necessarily because I simply don't know what the call actually was. There wasn't a foul there so what could it have been? It didn't make sense. Either way, one call doesn't change a game like this. Wabash waited too long to try to get back into this game.


Quote from: bashbrother on January 08, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
Quote from: wabco on January 08, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
Good game Wabash ... too bad you cannot say the same for the referees.

I don't blame them, I just want to know what the call was and why the time that expired after the whistle blew was not put on the clock.  If there was a foul... then fine.... but Wabash stole the ball and missed a shot running the clock.....  If you go back to the whistle..... put the time back on the clock.


You mean the call right after Ian Franks was tackled and there was no call by the official???

Coach Moore said the reason for the whistle after Wabash missed the shot following the tackle of Franks was that the clock froze.  Wooster had secured the rebound so the refs awarded Wooster the ball after they took the time off the clock.

Quote from: kiltedbryan on January 08, 2011, 04:03:04 PM
Phew, I'm still just exhaling.

Great game by both sides.  I wish Wooster could have held that lead, but credit them for putting themselves in a winning position by getting up by double digits.

No kidding?!  I wish Wooster would stop making these finishes closer than they need to be!  Poor execution to finish games is going to come back to haunt the Scots one of these games.  They finished poorly vs. Wilmington almost blowing a big lead in that game and today's game was eerily similar to that one.

In the end, a win is a win though!  Wooster picks up a big conference ROAD win in a very hostile environment today!

ScotsFan

Quote from: wally_wabash on January 08, 2011, 11:16:44 AM
On every game day, he's the best offensive player in the gym...usually by a wide margin. 

Ian Franks' 27 points today would suggest otherwise!  ;D

Li'l Giant

Quote from: Wooster Booster on January 08, 2011, 04:25:00 PMSteve Moore said in the post-game interview that the refs stopped the game because the Wabash scorekeeper did not start the clock.  So, possession was given back to Wooster, who had the ball at the time of this infraction, and two seconds was removed from the game clock because it should have started.

The possession to Wooster I understand if the clock didn't start. But if the clock didn't start, then is it that the play just never happened? Kind of like a false start in football?

Quote from: ScotsFan on January 08, 2011, 04:26:52 PMYou mean the call right after Ian Franks was tackled and there was no call by the official???

There are plenty of missed calls on fouls throughout a game. I'm sure we can each point to several. The FTs and foul calls ended up almost even. Wabash had 19 fouls to Wooster's 20 and Wooster had 24 FTs to Wabash's 21. Seems like a pretty even game to me.

That play sequence was a Mongolian Clusterf@*# from the beginning. And again, I'm not necessarily complaining about it. I just didn't understand what happened.
"I believe in God and I believe I'm gonna go to Heaven, but if something goes wrong and I end up in Hell, I know it's gonna be me and a bunch of D3 officials."---Erik Raeburn

Quote from: sigma one on October 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AMI don't drink with the enemy, and I don't drink lattes at all, with anyone.

bashbrother

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Let's not get into the ridiculous...... Wooster gets shafted by the refs discussion again........

This was a great college basketball game that was not decided by anything else but the players on the court..... Basketball is a physical sport...... There are fouls that don't get called all over the place in every game.......

Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

Bearman17

I will agree the whole conference thing by the refs was a little confusing, but as has already been stated here one call didn't win or lose this game. Wabash still had a good look and it appeared Smith's three at the buzzer was dead on. It was but just a little too hard as it hit the back of the rim from 30 feet out.

Bottom line was it was a GREAT Div. III game. If Woosters is the No. 1 team the polls have Wabash about right. Wabash should fall much below maybe No. 10.

Whta great atomsphere. It was just like a playoffs game. Standing room only and that was with the Wabash student body not back from break yet. Great support. Great game played by two very solid teams and two of the best coaches in the country (nearly 1,200 career wins between them).

This is what D3 athletics is all about and anyone who was there got to see a great game.


wally_wabash

Sounds like we had a tremendous college basketball game this afternoon at Chadwick!  Unfortunately, the LGs came up jus short, but that's the game sometimes. This result doesn't tarnish the start to this season nor should it tarnish the rest of what I believe will continue to be a very successful season. Sometimes the shots don't fall...such is basketball.  Congrats to the Scots on a good win today. I can't wait to watch this one on the YouTubes when I get back to the heartland.

WAF!
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

ScotsFan

Quote from: Li'l Giant on January 08, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on January 08, 2011, 04:25:00 PMSteve Moore said in the post-game interview that the refs stopped the game because the Wabash scorekeeper did not start the clock.  So, possession was given back to Wooster, who had the ball at the time of this infraction, and two seconds was removed from the game clock because it should have started.

The possession to Wooster I understand if the clock didn't start. But if the clock didn't start, then is it that the play just never happened? Kind of like a false start in football?


No.  The play happened.  Wabash stole the inbounds pass, missed a layup and Wooster corralled the rebound.  Then the officials realized the clock had not started so they blew the whistle and in their huddle determined the amount of time that should be removed.  And since Wooster had the ball at the time of the stoppage, they were awarded the ball.

Quote from: bashbrother on January 08, 2011, 04:42:35 PM
Let's not get into the ridiculous...... Wooster gets shafted by the refs discussion again........

This was a great college basketball game that was not decided by anything else but the players on the court..... Basketball is a physical sport...... There are fouls that don't get called all over the place in every game.......



I was simply pointing out to your buddy wabco that not all the calls went against your Little Giants as he seemed to imply...

wabashsid

Explanation from the referee to the media representative (that was me) on the final few seconds of play: The clock stopped properly after the made basket by Wabash with less than a minute in the game. The clock did not restart when Wooster inbounded the basketball quickly. This is a correctable error situation. The play was reset to the situation that existed when Wabash made the basket. Therefor there was no turnover or steal or shot by Wabash. The officials had discussed this possibility during a timeout, and had checked with us at the table for the possibility of replay. However, the game clock does not automatically tie into our video system, so replay was not an option.

ScotsFan

Quote from: wabashsid on January 08, 2011, 05:40:02 PM
Explanation from the referee to the media representative (that was me) on the final few seconds of play: The clock stopped properly after the made basket by Wabash with less than a minute in the game. The clock did not restart when Wooster inbounded the basketball quickly. This is a correctable error situation. The play was reset to the situation that existed when Wabash made the basket. Therefor there was no turnover or steal or shot by Wabash. The officials had discussed this possibility during a timeout, and had checked with us at the table for the possibility of replay. However, the game clock does not automatically tie into our video system, so replay was not an option.

So, why did they still  take time off the clock if this was the case? 

David Collinge

Quote from: Bearman17 on January 08, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
I will agree the whole conference thing by the refs was a little confusing, but as has already been stated here one call didn't win or lose this game. Wabash still had a good look and it appeared Smith's three at the buzzer was dead on. It was but just a little too hard as it hit the back of the rim from 30 feet out.

Bottom line was it was a GREAT Div. III game. If Woosters is the No. 1 team the polls have Wabash about right. Wabash should fall much below maybe No. 10.

Whta great atomsphere. It was just like a playoffs game. Standing room only and that was with the Wabash student body not back from break yet. Great support. Great game played by two very solid teams and two of the best coaches in the country (nearly 1,200 career wins between them).

This is what D3 athletics is all about and anyone who was there got to see a great game.



Great first post, Bearman17.  Here's your first karma point.  Thanks!