MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[pufin]

Re: Wooster-Wittenberg Rivalry

Wooster keeps track of this somewhat, but the latest version I found dates back to January 2003. I've updated from there:

Overall: Wittenberg 47-39
@ Wooster: Wooster 21-20
@Wittenberg: Wittenberg 26-16
@Neutral: Wooster 2-1

The three neutral site games were conference (2x OAC, 1x NCAC) tournament title games.

In the NCAC, Wooster is 4-2 against Wittenberg in conference tournament title games. The schools split two OAC tournament title games in the 1970s.

[Pat Coleman]

It's 59 teams. There's info in the FAQ or from an Oct. 15 notables story (go to Notables, click on Oct. 15 in the calendar).

[smedindy]

Well, Massey and Wolfe have calmed down a bit, so it's time to trot out my D-3 power rating amalgamation.

Here's where the NCAC stacks up. There are 394 teams rated:

1. Wittenberg
4. Wooster - Scots' SOS not that great, comparatively (#67)
98. Ohio Wesleyan
104.  Wabash - LG's don't have a great SOS this year (#203)
146. Earlham - meanwhile, Quakers SOS is #32
200. Denison
295. Kenyon
296. Allegheny
359. Hiram
373. Oberlin (yes, Virginia, there may be 20 teams worse than Oberlin)

[Vanilla24COW]

Thanks Pat I feel better about my sanity now...Smeds not sure how long it takes you to whip up those numbers but I think it would be interesting to see how Albion and Hope stack up.

[smedindy]

They are 9th and 10th - the power ratings aren't that high on them (relatively) and their SOS is a bit worse than Wooster. But it's still early, yet.

[jimmychitwood15]

Smeds- is an entire list of power rankings and SOS rating out there? or did you do this on your own? I am curious to check it out...if such a comprehensive list exists....

[smedindy]

This is my creation, an amalgamation of both Massey and Wolfe with a factor of my own thrown in. I just keep it as a spreadsheet.

[woosterbooster]

Here are the top 25 DIII schools from the Massey website through games of January 16th.

http://www.masseyratings.com 

Categories, left to right, are: Ranking (among all colleges), Name, W, L, Rating, SOS, SOS Ranking.

163  Lawrence              12   0   1.065   -0.04 ( 791)
207  Wittenberg            14   1   0.923    0.23 ( 659)
221  Wooster               14   1   0.880   -0.15 ( 848)
247  Carnegie Mellon       13   1   0.830   -0.06 ( 801)
263  Hope                  14   1   0.808    0.06 ( 736)
288  Baldwin-Wallace       13   2   0.776    0.30 ( 636)
289  Occidental            11   1   0.771   -0.48 (1025)
313  Albion                13   1   0.727    0.05 ( 740)
316  IL Wesleyan           12   2   0.719    0.53 ( 546)
321  Augustana IL          14   1   0.715    0.01 ( 756)
350  NYU                   12   1   0.655   -0.36 ( 968)
355  N Central IL          12   1   0.649   -0.05 ( 795)
380  Puget Sound           12   2   0.606   -0.02 ( 770)
388  Carroll WI            11   1   0.585   -0.25 ( 903)
391  Mississippi Col       12   1   0.582   -0.38 ( 983)
406  St John Fisher        11   2   0.561   -0.06 ( 800)
407  Coe                   11   2   0.561    0.11 ( 710)
408  WI LaCrosse           13   3   0.560    0.12 ( 702)
427  Bluffton              13   2   0.534   -0.17 ( 860)
436  Hamilton              10   1   0.529   -0.28 ( 924)
437  WI Oshkosh            12   4   0.528    0.32 ( 628)
439  Wartburg              12   2   0.521   -0.09 ( 823)
440  Ohio Northern         11   3   0.518    0.24 ( 653)
443  WI Whitewater         11   3   0.515    0.19 ( 675)
444  Maryville TN          14   2   0.515   -0.11 ( 830)

[smedindy]

The one I use is the D-3 rankings only and I use the Massey ratings with MOV enabled.

http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1

[DarkSide-D]

tyrone and Pufin,

Here is a link for Wooster's archive of the Woo-Witt Basketball rivalry.  It is up to date, as of this year, minus this year's game.


http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/news/2005-06/woo-witt_rivalry.pdf

[Pat Coleman]

Hey folks, Great Lakes talk coming up on Hoopsville, so now's the time to tune in if you haven't already.

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/

[imderekpoe]

Wow, that Woo-Witt summary really brings back some memories!  The recent games were great, but the 2 OAC championship games were classics!  I remember the one at Otterbein, when the Scots played a great first half, but went cold in the 2nd.  They went 4-corner with the game tied at about the 10:30 mark in the 2nd half, then threw it away with about 1:30 left.  Witt then played for the last shot and hit it.

[David Collinge]

The new weekly stats (thru 1/15) are out, and I thought I'd take a look at how the top 4 national teams compare:

Scoring Offense:
4.  Wooster 102.2
76. Hope 77.9
Albion, Wittenberg not in top 100

Scoring Defense:
1.  Wittenberg 52.6
22. Hope 61.3
74. Albion 66.0
Wooster not in top 100

Scoring Margin:
1.  Wooster +23.7
7.  Wittenberg +17.1
8.  Hope +16.7
59. Albion +9.4

FG% offense:
3.  Wooster 53.4
25. Albion 49.7
63. Wittenberg 47.7
Hope not in top 100

FG% defense:
2.  Wittenberg 35.3
24. Hope 39.2
89. Albion 41.9
Wooster not in top 100

3PFG per game:
8.  Wooster 11.2
Albion, Hope, Wittenberg not in top 100

3PFG%:
4.  Wooster 43.9
25. Albion 40.9
43. Wittenberg 39.1
Hope not in top 100

Free Throw Percentage:
13. Wittenberg 75.9
Albion, Hope, Wooster not in top 100 (egad!) 

Rebound Margin:
16. Wittenberg +8.9
20. Albion +8.7
39. Wooster +6.5
53. Hope +5.6

[David Collinge]

Another semi-interesting (at least to Scot fans) tidbit:  Devin Fulk is ranked 18th nationally in FG percentage at 65.5%.  That's a pretty amazing stat considering that 2/3 of his shots are from behind the arc!  (Note that he dropped to 61.6 % overall since the last NCAA stats were published.)

"Derek," I think this is a screw-up on the part of the NCAA. They are confusing Devin Fulk and Tim Vandervaart, for some reason.  Vandervaart is shooting at .682 clip (90/132), but those stats show up as Fulk's in the NCAA ranking.  Fulk is actually hitting .616 (53/86), pretty good for a perimeter shooter, but his  approx. 3.5 FGM/game is below the threshold for NCAA ranking (need 5 FGM/g.)  Vandervaart qualifies, and would be ranked 8th nationally if the NCAA could figure out who he is.  (Tim's also ranked 71st nationally in rebounds, at 8.7/game, under his pseudonym.)

Wooster season stats
NCAA statistics website

[imderekpoe]

David - I'm sure that you must be correct (as usual!) about the Vandervaart/Fulk mixup.  I also noticed in your stats post that the Scots are now listed 4th in scoring offense.  However, Redlands was omitted from the NCAA stats and is averaging 119.2 ppg which would put them 2nd behind Grinnell (and move the Scots down to 5th).

The FT% stat also got me wondering what difference that would make in the average game between Witt and Wooster.  Based on a bunch of calculations, I am figuring that if the Scots shot 75.9% from the stripe (instead of 68%) they would score about 2.4 ppg more.  Not too much in an average game, but I'm sure they'd love to have those points come Feb 4 in Springfield...   (or Dec 30 against B-W!)