MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

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wally_wabash

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2015, 09:53:59 AM
You know what the tie breaker in Baseball has been? A coin flip. Alleghenny lost out on the NCAC tourney several times because a coin flip.

Four game weekend series will do that.  Hard to wind up with difficult ties if you play three 9s over a weekend like adults.   :)
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Bishopleftiesdad

I would have no problems with 3 9's for baseball. I also would like to go back to round robin. But thats a discussion for another board.

ohiofan1954

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
I would have no problems with 3 9's for baseball. I also would like to go back to round robin. But thats a discussion for another board.
I would think 3 9's would also be better for your pitching staff as well as you don't have to kill your pitchers with doubleheaders back to back. At times the last game if not both Sunday games start to look like mid-week non-conference games when that guy Wholestaff is on the mound.

imderekpoe

Not to derail the baseball thread, but I believe the tiebreakers for hoops are (or were):
1) Head-to-Head
2) Record vs conference opponents beginning at the top of the standings
3) Coin flip

Bishopleftiesdad

Yes so the coin flip is still a possibility.

David Collinge

#14615
As OWU closes in on on the outright NCAC regular season title, it bears mentioning that Wooster, Wittenberg, or both have won or shared this title in each of the last 27 seasons. The last time the "W"s failed to perch atop the final standings was 1988, when OWU shared the crown with Allegheny at 11-1. This was OWU's fourth consecutive championship, two shared with the Gators (1986 and 1988*) and two outright with Allegheny in second. The following season, Wooster shared the title with Allegheny, then in the 1989-90 season, Wittenberg left the OAC for the NCAC, which split into a two-division format for two seasons. In each season, Wooster won the North Division and Wittenberg the South. Since then, the two programs won 21 outright titles between them (Wooster 14, Witt 7) and shared one title (1991-92), with only Allegheny able to break the unanimity, sharing the 1992-93 crown with the Tigers.

In other words, what OWU is about to accomplish is really extraordinary.

And it's time for the other six, especially charter members Oberlin, Kenyon, and Denison, to step up and get some banners for themselves.

*Of course, you don't need me to tell you that OWU won the national championship in 1988.

David Collinge

Today's results:
OWU 80, Allegheny 66
Wabash 68, Denison 66
Oberlin 83, Hiram 58
DePauw 66, Kenyon 61

Wooster tips at Wittenberg in a few minutes. A Tiger win would give OWU that outright title mentioned above. Regardless, the Bishops' win today clinches a share of the title and home-court advantage in the NCAC tournament. Congratulations!

Current standings, pending the Woo/Witt outcome:
1. OWU 14-2
2. Wooster 11-4
3. Wabash 10-6
4. DePauw 9-7
5. Wittenberg 7-8
6. Denison 7-9
6. Allegheny 7-9
8. Oberlin 6-10
9. Kenyon 5-11
10. Hiram 3-13


David Collinge

Wooster holds off Wittenberg, 63-59, an absolutely putrid game filled with offensive fouls and bricked free throws (or so Mike's radio call would suggest.) Eighth straight Scot victory over the Tigers, who now at 9-14 realistically cannot avoid their first losing season in my very long lifetime.

Current standings:
1. OWU 14-2
2. Wooster 12-4
3. Wabash 10-6
4. DePauw 9-7
5. Wittenberg 7-9
5. Denison 7-9
5. Allegheny 7-9
8. Oberlin 6-10
9. Kenyon 5-11
10. Hiram 3-13

sac

Quote from: David Collinge on February 14, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
Wooster holds off Wittenberg, 63-59, an absolutely putrid game filled with offensive fouls and bricked free throws (or so Mike's radio call would suggest.) Eighth straight Scot victory over the Tigers, who now at 9-14 realistically cannot avoid their first losing season in my very long lifetime.


Only way they avoid a losing season is to win out, win the NCAC Tournament and advance to the NCAA Sweet 16 or past. 16-15
or
win out, win the NCAC Tournament and advance to the second round of the NCAA. 15-15

1956 was Wittenberg's last losing season in men's basketball.

Dr. Acula

Quote from: sac on February 15, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
1956 was Wittenberg's last losing season in men's basketball.

That's absolutely incredible.  This is unquestionably a historically awful season for Witt, but what a tradition of consistency.  Witt and Wooster never have down years.  Quite a testament to both programs.

David Collinge

Wooster's last losing season was in 1986-87, when they went 8-18. Cost Lu Wims his job. 28 straight winning season is very impressive ... and Wittenberg's non-losing streak is more than twice as long.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: David Collinge on February 15, 2015, 04:38:34 PM
Wooster's last losing season was in 1986-87, when they went 8-18. Cost Lu Wims his job. 28 straight winning season is very impressive ... and Wittenberg's non-losing streak is more than twice as long.

In the two 'major' sports, the only comparable streak would be Linfield football, currently 57(?) straight winning seasons (at least I think it is not even 'non-losing' seasons).

David Collinge

We use the caveat "non-losing" for Wittenberg because they were 13-13 in both 1967-68 and 2008-09.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: David Collinge on February 15, 2015, 04:58:54 PM
We use the caveat "non-losing" for Wittenberg because they were 13-13 in both 1967-68 and 2008-09.

Understood.  IIRC, Linfield has not even had a .500 season over that stretch.

woosterbooster

Despite their record, I fear them more than any other NCAC team.  I'll not shed a tear if they fail to make the tournament, or if someone else knocks them out of it.