MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[smedindy]

DC - We're talking COACHES poll, not media poll, is where the mistake happened. In the coaches poll, Witt got 8 first place votes and Wooster 2 first place votes.

[David Collinge]

Am I imagining it, or did some media joker vote for Hiram or Kenyon or somebody like that?  I think I recall a lot of discussion on here about one particularly odd-looking vote in the media polls, both men's and women's.   

I forgot to add that this comment (above) was about LAST YEAR's media poll.  I assume that's what confused you, smeds.  Sorry.     I think I remember there being one stray first place vote from the media last season that went to a bizarre recipient.  Does anyone else remember that?

[ScotsFan]

David,

I remember what you are talking about.  I believe it was Kenyon who received the stray vote.  Whoever it was, it was definately one of the bottom three in the voting.

[smedindy]

Actually, DC, you said OWU got a first. OWU got a first in the MEDIA poll. The coaches poll is where the typo is.

[seinfeld]

Here are the results from last year's media poll. It was Kenyon and Oberlin that got votes. In my opinion, those were "gag" votes that should have been removed from the tally, but the NCAC didn't. I don't think the coaches from either of those teams after their team's best practice would say they could even finish in the top half of the conference last year.

http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/news/2004-05/mediaday.php

[smedindy]

And, in reality, it matters not a whit, since there are many games to be played plus a tourney...

[seinfeld]

NCAC updated the coaches' poll. Wooster now has 91 points.

http://www.northcoast.org/bkbmediaday/05.html?pages_id=62&news_ID=2936

[ScotsFan]

Actually, DC, you said OWU got a first. OWU got a first in the MEDIA poll. The coaches poll is where the typo is.

Smeds, David wasn't questioning this year's poll.  It was last year's poll that he was bringing up and he even highlighted it in BOLD CAPS.  And Seinfeld even found you a link. 

Anywho, the typo has been rectified.  Hopefully as Billy mentioned, this won't come to a federal investigation and a recount.   Now  we can all move on to focus on real basketball on the court in just two short weeks.

[David Collinge]

Thanks, SF, but smeds is right (too); I'm definitely confusing the issue.  I was trying to prove that Wooster must have received a vote for 3rd or lower from a coach by citing that OWU got a first--but that was from the media, not the coaches.  Sorry.  Again.   

Anyway, it's not like I haven't been wrong before.   

So Wooster's total turns out to be 91, which is 2 firsts, 7 seconds, and one third, if my math skills are better than my logic.

There is an article in the Daily Record today that suggests that the Wooster players may be "miffed" by the perceived lack of respect.  Then again, that's really just the headline writer interpreting what the reporter wrote about Steve Moore saying he thinks might occur to the players.  Not exactly a solid foundation there.

The article also goes on to say

[T]he opinion that the NCAC will be stronger as a conference resonated from each of the 10 head coaches.  "I think the story of the day is the depth of each team," [Wooster Coach Steve] Moore said.  "I truly believe this is the strongest the league has been throughout in many years."

From Steve's lips to god's ears!

[seinfeld]

Here are some random thoughts that I'll post so that I can look back at the end of the year and see how wrong I am.

-- Daniel Russ is the best player in the conference. If they played him more (he only averaged 23.5 minutes per game last year) and played with the same intensity all the time that he does against Wooster, he would be an All-American.

-- Wooster has the best player in the conference at three positions: point guard (Witucky), forward (4 spot) (Port), and shooting guard (Cooper). If you have seen Cooper play, you know why he will be the best two-guard this year.

-- Wittenberg will have one of the best frontlines in Div. III. Wooster will have one of the best perimeter players in Div. III. But the two have major questions in the other areas. Which team addresses those issues sooner may take home the conference title.

-- The gut-wrenching loss that Wooster was handed at Albion last year could provide some extra fuel in the tanks this year.

-- Wooster and Witt play in early December for the first time in a long time. Maybe Wooster can take advantage the inexperience Witt will have in the backcourt early in the season

-- The rest of the NCAC is, I think, finally making some improvements. I think anyone of Wabash, Denison, OWU and Earlham can finish third, and any one of these teams is capable on the right night of taking down one of the top two. I also think Kenyon is starting to improve.

-- I also think for the first time in a long time the NCAC is on par with the OAC, and maybe even slightly better this year. With Mimes not playing for JCU this year and one of the Davis brothers gone from BW, the top of the OAC is not as strong. And I think the depth of the NCAC may be better than the OAC this year. Too bad we don't have the challenge this year.

-- I like what Denison is doing especially. Wouldn't be surprised to see them pushing 18 or 19 wins in the next year or two.

[smedindy]

DC - I knew I wasn't going nuts...well, I'm already there, but still...

[seinfeld]

I believe a Witt poster mentioned this summer to look out for a freshman named Caraway. Looking at Witt's season outlook (at the bottom), he is not listed. Any idea what the story is?

http://www5.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/mbasketball/preview05-06.html

[David Collinge]

I believe a Witt poster mentioned this summer to look out for a freshman named Caraway. Looking at Witt's season outlook (at the bottom), he is not listed. Any idea what the story is?

Maybe he's gone to seed? 

[smedindy]

 

[Gregory Sager]

I believe a Witt poster mentioned this summer to look out for a freshman named Caraway. Looking at Witt's season outlook (at the bottom), he is not listed. Any idea what the story is?

Maybe he's gone to seed?

DC, I believe that it's customary for the dunker to give post-jam props to the guy who threw him the alley-oop pass.