MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

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ScotsFan

Quote...and also during hoops some people feel this is the Wooster 24/7/365 board, and it ain't supposed to be that way.
And that's our fault how? ???    What would you call the NCAC page of D3football?   You could also say the same thing about the MIAA board being a Hope and Calvin forum.  Its not like we try to run off anybody that supports another team outside of the Scots in here.   Wooster has one of the largest fan bases in the conference for basketball, like Wabash does for football, so maybe that would have something to do with this board being made up of predominantly Wooster folk.  

earlhamalum

I'm not 100% sure but is there a more experience team out there than Earlham.  I mean u have Senior Brandon Miller (6"6) who was 1st team all conference last year and a 3 year starter.  You have Senior Tyler Stewart who has been in and out of the starting rotation.  Junior Laron Henry who started his first two years.. and then Junior/senior Markous Jewett (6"6) who has started in his two years at Earlham.  Then u throw in big man Nick Welsh a (6"9) Soph. who started last year.   

Just right there is a lot of NCAC and College basketball experience... this is the year for these guys to get it done.  Freshman Tristian Gregory has a nice outside jump shot.  He may not be use to the physical play but he has a Nice stroke

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waterboy

Scotsfan,

Honestly, I don't know how much playing time the Gator bigs will get this year.  Judging from past experience and from what little I saw of them play, I would say they have the potential to play 15-20 each, likely in some kind of rotation.  I know Boni was just cleared to play a couple weeks ago because of illness so I don't know how much he'll factor in.  I forgot to mention 6'6" Ben Torsney as well, who played well at the beginning of last season but was hampered with an injury during most of the conference regular season.  He has good post moves and combined with Majzlik and one of the big newcomers, the Gators could get a lot more contributions from the post.  I think McCloskey, Babe, and likely Savage would be the top wing players, but I'm going mostly on athleticism on Savage because I haven't seen him play.

The Gators have a lot of potential this year to knock off one of the 3-6 teams in the league I think, but it will come down to experience and how the young guys react to playing in tightly contested games.  As far as the preseason poll, I think No. 7 is more than respectable for 'Gheny and is precisely where I would put them.  OWU, Wabash, Earlham, and Denison could be put anywhere in the 3-6 range, but I think at least one, if not more, will end up handing Witt and Woo a loss or two.

PCCoach

I think the reason why Wooster fan's are around in here  is simply because we care and are interested in what's going on in D3 basketball.  Anyone who has ever atteneded the COW knows how big basketball is.  In fact, Timken is one of the finest places to ever see a college basketball game on any level.  Simply put, that place rocks when there is a big game; people show up for the showdown.  With that being said....and even being a slight homer, another reason some people don't like to post in the NCAC page is because what are they going to say?  Records speak for themselves in league play, and there isn't one better than the Fighting Scots. 

earlhamalum

About the Preseason All_american team...  I think with all the crying about russ and whitucky not making the team...  I personally feel like it should be called.. PRESEASON "I'M ON A GOOD TEAM" All-American award.. Because everyone that reads this KNows that if anyone of those two players played for Earlham College.. they would have to pull teeth to be 1st all conference let alone all americans.  You also know if Brandon Crawford was still playing at Oberlin he would not even be a thought for preseason AA heck i doubt he would make 1st team all conference.  So for all u posters that are crying about ur player not making it... let me shed a tear with you.    *TEAR Or you can look at Brandon Miller stats.. and compare.. thank you have a nice day..
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smedindy

I have a lot to say - and there are other fans of other teams that care about D-3 hoops as well.
Wabash Always Fights!

bishopsfan

I just wanted to drop in my two cents into the conversation regarding Russ v. Crawford and who deserves preseason all-american honors.  As much as it pains me to say this being that I am an OWU fan, Dan Russ may be the best big man in the country this year.  At a legitimet 6'9", he is bigger then nearly everyone elso.  Seeing him last season and again this summer he is the real deal and has gotten progressively better each year he has been at Witt.  I truly hope to see a matchup between Albion and Witt at some point in the post-season.  On another note, the season gets rolling this weekend!!!  Is this the best time of year or what? Go Bishops
Go Bishops!!

ScotsFan

Quote from: smedindy on November 13, 2005, 09:23:08 AM
I have a lot to say - and there are other fans of other teams that care about D-3 hoops as well.
 And the fact that this board is made up of predominantly Wooster fans is preventing you and fans of other teams from saying what you want to say?  ??? I'm not really understanding your argument Smeds...

Quote from: earlhamalum on November 12, 2005, 11:52:24 PM
Because everyone that reads this KNows that if anyone of those two players played for Earlham College.. they would have to pull teeth to be 1st all conference let alone all americans.  You also know if Brandon Crawford was still playing at Oberlin he would not even be a thought for preseason AA heck i doubt he would make 1st team all conference.
earlhamalum, first off, Brandon Crawford was Newcomer of the Year in the NCAC when he was a freshman at Oberlin.  Would he have made the preseason AA team if he were still at Oberlin is debatable and probably doubtful, but as for your assertion that he wouldn't even make 1st team all conference because he played for Oberlin, I would beg to disagree on that one.  Not only was Crawford NOY, he was also honorable mention All-NCAC and the only freshman to make the All-NCAC team.  Also, if Witucky and Russ were playing for Earlham, we'd be talking about Earlham challenging for the NCAC.  It takes quality players to make quality teams, and Witucky and Russ happen to be a very talented players on  good teams.  Are they surrounded by talent?  No question, but to suggest they would be average at best if they were playing for one of the have-nots is just about rediculous.  Your example of Crawford proves my point.

smedindy

It doesn't prevent me at all - I won't stoop to the level of comments that others have made about Wabash posters on the football board. It was just a simple observation about how at times this seems to be a private Wooster domain, much like the complaints about Wabash on the football board.

There's something here about geese and ganders...that's all.
Wabash Always Fights!

David Collinge

Quote from: ScotsFan on November 13, 2005, 12:08:33 PMAnd the fact that this board is made up of predominantly Wooster fans is preventing you and fans of other teams from saying what you want to say?  ??? I'm not really understanding your argument Smeds...

It doesn't prevent Smeds (or Wally or Billy or a few others), but it does prevent a significant barrier to entry on this board.  Wooster fans not only outnumber the others, but we tend to be prickly as well.  It takes some moxie to post something that you know will draw an argument from a Wooster poster, even when it is something as inocuous as whether Dan Russ should have been an All-American.  When there is an overwhelming (and not silent) majority, it's not so easy or rewarding to offer a minority opinion.  The same is true on the football board, as well as in general society.

Dark Knight

QuoteIt takes some moxie to post something that you know will draw an argument from a Wooster poster...

Ooo ooo can I try?

Hmmm, let's see...

Why did the wed hen cwoss the woad?

She weawy wanted the wooster?

Erm, um, She was a Wooster Booster?

She wanted to get to the other side in the Wooster way?


wally_wabash

For those who haven't noticed....

I've started a thread for the '05-'06 Pick 'Em.  All of the juicy details, as well as the first set of games are contained therein. 

Enjoy your tipoffs this weekend! 

A very intriguing afternoon awaits Little Giant fans on Saturday.  The championship of of the Little Giant Tipoff  Classic is set for 3:00 p.m.  Wabash hosts a first round NCAA tournament football game which is set to kick off at noon.  If Wabash can get through to the championship game of the hoops tourney, tipoff, presumably against #1 IWU, will happen very shortly after the conclusion of the football game.  Could be a very, very special day for Wabash athletics. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

blindwatchmaker

Looking at Wooster's fisrt opponent

Have the website for K-zoo's roster for the 05-06 season.  Not sure who their starters will be, but looking at last years stats it may be ( Tim Herman, Kyle Konwinski, Phillip Weaver,Tyler Worst, Roger Garfield?).   Herman and Konwinski are  the Hornet's senior guards -"Both shot over 84 percent from the free throw line. Kyle averaged 9.8 points and 5.2 rebounds per game while shooting 42.3 percent from three-point range. Tim averaged 6.5 points and 2.1 rebounds"  (from the season preview).  As a team they don't seem to pose any height problems for Wooster.   K-zoo was picked last in the MIAA coaches poll. 


http://www.kzoo.edu/sports/mb/mb05-06/mbrstr05-06.html

http://www.miaa.org/mbb/


Mr. Ypsi

There is discussion of the IWU suspension on CCIW Chat - the consensus seems to be that it was probably technically accurate, but a great overreaction.