MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[smedindy]

see - that's not what I heard in football, though. It goes the reverse - who you lost to, not who you beat.

I'll email the NCAC.

[wally_wabash]

The more I think about it, the more I think smeds is right here.  While the "who did you lose to" tiebreak favors Wabash, I really don't like it as opposed to a "who did you beat" tiebreak.  I think the team with the most significant accomplishment should be rewarded ahead of the team with the less lackluster loss.  

Either way, Wabash and Earlham are probably playing on the 21st for the right to get throttled by Duke Uni...er...Wooster in the semis.  

[earlhamalum]

I talked to a reliable person on Saturday...  Coach Justus and he informed me if they win out and Wabash does not beat Witt.  They will Host.  But feel free to email the NCAC.

[David Collinge]

Great Lakes teams in top 100 QoWI, and my prediction for this week's regional rankings:

1. (6th nationally) Carnegie Mellon    10.938    13-3
2. (11) Wooster    10.737    18-1
3. (14) Wittenberg    10.667    16-2
4. (19) Baldwin-Wallace    10.333    19-2
5. (21) Hope    10.267    13-2
6. (26) Calvin    10.200    9-1
7. (41) Albion    9.833    10-2
8. (74) Lake Erie    9.278    15-3
9. (77) Bethany    9.250    16-4

Projected rankings:
1. Wooster
2. Wittenberg
3. Baldwin-Wallace
4. Carnegie Mellon
5. Hope
6. Calvin

Actually, 2-6 looks like a crap shoot to me, and any/all of them could be tied.

[woosterbooster]

I don't think it's at all an off-the-wall or outlandish statement to say that any terrific DIII shooter, such as a Devin Fulk, is comparable, as a shooter, to someone in DI.  I was, and am, talking only about shooting.  Not the ability to get off one's own shot, which Fulk has only limited ability to do even in DIII.  But the ability to drain the ball if the opening is there.  After all, as was made clear in the movie Hoosiers, the basket is still only ten feet high in DI, and the arc is the same distance from the hoop.

Basically, I'm talking about a game of long-distance horse.  In my opinion, Fulk could hang with almost anyone from out there.  He may not win, but he'd be competitive. There are almost certainly a fair number of other shooters of that ability lurking around in the DIII ranks.  That's not at all to say they're anywhere near being DI ballplayers, or could get off a shot without lots of help in DI.  But they can shoot the ball, period.

[earlhamalum]

Billy_P... a game of horse (please repeat convo. from earlier today, having to do with horse)... Come on WoosterBooster.. PLEASE do not go there.  A lot of people including myself could hang with great shooters... Granted I wouldn't put myself right there now, a game of long range horse...  I mean I have some unbelievable shots in HORSE that I would love to see J.J. hit.  You just can't compare apples and oranges.  I could see many High School players that could hang with them in Horse... New topic Please.   

[David Collinge]

Would it be farfetched or just my wishful thinking to conclude that (either) James Cooper and (or) Devin Fulk could be (or are) as great college basketball shooters as is JJ Redick right now?

Okay, some of you thought WooMix was asserting that Fulk and Cooper were as good players as Redick, and have had lots of fun ridiculing this notion.  Of course, that's clearly not what he said, and drawing that meaning from this question is at least as ridiculous as the question you think he asked. 

The only reasonable interpretation of WooMix's question is that he is comparing their pure shooting ability, which is what he actually asked.  Now earlhamalum asserts that "a lot of people," including himself, are as good at pure shooting as Redick.  Now, I don't know Redick (or EA) from Adam, but if that's true, than WooMix's question isn't all that far-fetched, is it? 

[smedindy]

Oh, you know it's true that some past Quaker could light it up!

I'd take Josh Estelle over anyone in horse, though, but I think almost every D-1 team has a couple like him.

[pennstghs]

wow uconn is outrebounding everyone lately-just like wittenberg-maybe witt can compete in the big east because they are a really good rebounding team.
yes i am being sarcastic.

how can anyone compare wooster to duke-it wouldnt even be close. d1 shooters have the ability to create their own shots, not saying wooster doesnt, but not at as high of a level

[billy_pilgrim]

Now earlhamalum asserts that "a lot of people," including himself, are as good at pure shooting as Redick.  Now, I don't know Redick (or EA) from Adam, but if that's true, than WooMix's question isn't all that far-fetched, is it?   

That is in fact my assertion. I think that Devin Fulk, James Cooper or Billy_Pilgrim could beat J.J. Redick in a game of HORSE on a good day.

Actually I don't think that Wooster Booster's claims was that far fetched...in fact, I think he understated. Back in my playing days at Earlham, several players and I would play hour long games of HORSE that would eventually lead us to make rules such as made shots that hit the rim counted as misses.

There are plenty of great stand still shooters who could make 25 or so straight 3's or 50 straight FTs playing at various levels of basketball. So, in fact, I think that assertion is true. However, I'm just not certain of how impressive being as good a stand still shooter as J.J. Redick.

The story earlhamalum alludes to is the aforementioned games of HORSE that would go on for hours (because of made shots, not because we sucked). Oh, and for the record, it was only 93/100 at the line for me this afternoon. Maybe I'm getting Earlham's week worth of misses out of the way.

[WoosterFAN]

I realize that I am time late on this string.  I also enjoy the posts from DenisonFAN.  Sure the tone wasat times harsh but I was very fondof the passion, especially for a team that has not been traditional NCAC power and has not enjoy any significant discussions on this board.

So if you are reading this DF, come back to the board.  Just like you do not want the Big Red to mail it in for the rest of the year, neither should you.

Do not let the comments/hard questions of a few send you packing.

As for the rankings, I think that BW (1-0 vs WOO) should move ahead of Witt (0-2 vs WOO) and leader of tough OAC.  And of course it goes without saying that I want to avoid BW in the tourney!!  I think they pose the biggest threat in the region.

[WoosterFAN]

Is the Wooster Website coorect that the Lords of Kenyon visit on TUE instead of WED.  In my days of writing for the VOICE, I would have loved a TUE game to get ready for the THU deadline for FRI's paper!!

Kenyon's website says the same thing, 14FEB and as near as I can tell no one else is playing on Valentine's Day.  At least I am out of town on business so I can listen to the game in peace!!

Does anyone know why TUE instead of WED?

[woosterbooster]

I don't know why Tuesday, but the game definitely is on Tuesday.  Surprised me, too.

Aside: I picked up a like new Wooster Baseball windbreaker for $10 at their sports clothing sale during and after the Wabash game on Saturday.  Pretty darned good deal.

[earlhamalum]

WoosterFan- That is one heck of a question... ANYONE have the answer to his Question?  

[pennstghs]

yes i know i have a biased opinion, but witt has good stance on hosting a first or second round game i believe if it is at all possible. yes witt has two losses but they are two the top ranked team in the country. the witt, wooster, bw triangle is going to go all around and back and forth up until the selection sunday. the NCAC tournament champ will get upper hand in hosting i believe, yes even if wooster wins out and loses i believe that hurts them. baldwin wallace is going to be nervous because i believe a strong john carroll push could knock them off their pedastol.

pretty much what im syaing is nothing is being decided until the last game has been played so we need to see what happens.

good luck to witt wednesday night. carry on the tenacity we've shown the last two road games and we'll be fine.