MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[wooscotsfan]

I would hesitate to call any MIAA team a "patsy"

DC -- I think that we actually agree on K-zoo.  I never said that the Hornets were a "good" team.  My only point was that "patsies" don't take CCIW teams like Elmhurst to double overtime.  I would label K-zoo as an average to below average team, but clearly not a "patsy".

[earlhamalum]

THE FINAL IT IS IN... Denison -36 vs Wooster.   Denison -18 vs Witt.  Denison -71 vs Akron

                                                  TOTAL POINTS THAT THE BIG RED LOST BY

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PRICE IS RIGHT (STYLE)

Winner-             EARLHAMALUM       122pts       -3

OVER-                CMHSCOT                128pts       +3
                          Darkside-D              150          +25 

Way Under-             
                         BishopFan          112pts       -13
                         ScotsFan            105pts       -20
                        Billy_pilgrram      104pts       -21
                         Waterboy            101pts      -24
                                 

[smedindy]

Ah, Akron didn't call off the dogs like I thought they would. Sigh.

[woosterbooster]

Granted that the Wooster players certainly didn't have their normal game faces last night, but in watching the game (almost slipped and called it a contest) I thought a few scary facts were revealed.

1. As already mentioned by others, Wooster's post defense was very poor.  Some less than stellar Oberlin players did yeoman work () inside.  Yes, Wooster had some blocked shots (8, overall) but they played soft inside, too easily giving up good position.

2. Wooster's rebounding, especially on the defensive end, was less than satisfactory.  I thought Oberlin had far too many offensive boards and touches.

3. How to operate the pressing defense seemed to be unclear to the guys in the backcourt.  Time and again long passes were made to men upcourt.  Oberlin, not being very talented, wasn't always able to take advantage of the numbers advantage that this produced, but Wittenberg surely will.

4. Offensively, Wooster's movement of the ball, especially around the perimeter, was too often hesitant and slow, with the exception of Brandon Johnson, who I thought did an excellent job of not just trying to get everyone involved but actually finding the open man quickly.  James Cooper, on the other hand, while very talented with the ball, spends way too much time standing around, often with a hand raised in the air calling for said ball.

5. Also on the offensive end, there were lots of unfinished plays; layups and easy shots missed.

Now, as I mentioned, surely lots of this has to do with the class of the opponent.  But if it's not cleaned up by Saturday night, a disaster will be in the making.  Here's hoping that they have the intensity, focus, and physicality that they'll need to get a win.

[imderekpoe]

Earlhamalum, I must protest!!  I believe that the contest was for the 'closest', not the 'closest without going over' (ala Price is Right).  Thus I think we should call it a tie!!   

[wally_wabash]

Can somebody explain to me how getting stomped by 71 helps Denison in any way?  How do they benefit from that?  I really, really dislike D3's playing D-I's.  I just don't see the value.  I don't see what the D-I's get out of it either aside from 40 minutes worth of game time to get a player hurt.  

[smedindy]

The ASC plays a lot of the Southland teams in non-conference and that's for the cash money. (And it's odd, too because the ASC only has three non-conference games).

I would think, though, that Denison and Kenyon's athletic department are going broke, so I don't think money is the issue.

[earlhamalum]

cmhscot- I can't beat wooster in anything...         A  TIE it is.

Looking over the stats of the Earlham game... not a whole lot seperated them from a top ten team in the nation.   Almost every stat line was the same... Well one thing was different Earlham had about 8 turnovers more, which gave Hanover about 9 more total shots for the game. 

BIlly_P i hope after these last two games Earlham can make a run at the top 4 spots in the NCAC.

[sac]

Can somebody explain to me how getting stomped by 71 helps Denison in any way?  How do they benefit from that?  

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Wooster Booster......after reading your most recent post I'd have sworn the Scots LOST to Oberlin.  I think you just ripped your own team for a 59 point win.

[Kramer]

Denison reportedly was paid $5K to play at Akron, and no I don't think it was worth it for the beating they took.  And also, Lebron was their to witness it.  Denison actually was within about four eight minutes in to the game, Ghiloni went with a three freshman lineup, several minutes later the lead was thirty and a huge snow ball was rolling downhill.

[smedindy]

$5,000 to Denison is nothing, really. $5,000 to another school would be something, though, so I can see why some D-3 schools do it.

[wally_wabash]

If a school needs $5,000 that bad, hold a friggin' bake sale.  There are better ways to make money than to trot your team out for 40 minutes of pure embarrassment.  Seriously...neither team gets anything useful out of these games.  What if Akron's star player broke his wrist on the rim while thunderdunking over some poor Denison freshman?  Or blew out a knee coming back to earth after said thunderdunk? 

Washington & Jefferson lost 83-33 to West Virginia last weekend.  Why?  Why do this?

Really, these games are pointless. 

[smedindy]

Sometimes its just scheduling - both teams have a hole to fill and its convenient.

$5,000 is probably a pretty low guarantee.

[sac]

Out of curiosity did Vegas put a line on that game?

That would be tough handicapping job since the sportsbooks don't even know D3 exists.

[Coshocton Giant]

Four years ago Witt played Dayton in the dedication game of the newly renovated UD arena, Dayton was a top 25 team and with four minutes to go the game was tied. UD won by 8 tho. D3 was not embarrased.