MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[wooscotsfan]

follow me for a second.


say that wooster were to lose tonight to 'gheny 

Not Likely-- Wooster with a 27 point lead with ~10 minutes left in the game!

I don't remember if there are other tiebreakers besides head to head results.  At some point, yes, a tie can be reduced down to a coin flip as the deciding factor.

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  Wooster 109  Allegheny 71

Wooster cruised in the second half and cleared the bench with about 7 minutes remaining.

Wooster was led tonight by James Cooper with 31 points (7 of 9 on three pointers), Tom Port with 15 points and Brandon Johnson with 14 points.  Scots played good defense and shot well to secure this lopsided win.  Wooster made 14 three pointers and shot over 55% from behind the arc.

Allegheny was led by Jimmy Savage with 9 points and Trevor Coffey with 8 points.

Wooster is now 18-2, 11-0 NCAC.   Big home game vs Witt on Saturday!

GO SCOTS!!

[pennstghs]

Final from Springfield: Wittenberg 87   Earlham 40

Not really much of a contest from the get go. Earlham couldn't match up with Wittenberg offensively or defensively and that combined with Wittenberg's excellent night of shooting and good shots makes this Saturday's game even that more interesting. I think tonight Wittenberg had around 10 3 pointers and that was the one element missing from the first game that could have turned the tide. Balanced scoring attack all the way around too for the Tigers.

[gotigers]

from the looks of it, this is coming souly from the stats from tonight, the winner of saturdays game is going to be the team who shuts down the other from behind the arch. witt had 12 and wooster had 14 from down town, im not sure if thats normal, but thats seems really good to me.

if niether team can shut the other down, or they both shut each other down, then i think the game will be decided on whether or not borchers(sp??) can stay out of foul trouble. correct me if im wrong but the guy from woo who broke his hand, his name starts with a V, he played center. if woo's backup center, now non back-up starting center, can draw the offensive fouls when dane makes a move to the basket, woosters won the game. if u take him away from witt, witt is a 1 dimensional team, 3-pointers, and i believe that any team can shut down a 1 dimensional team. thats the key for witt to win is to keep him out of foul trouble. and woosters key is to get him into foul trouble. but anywho back to my paper i have to write for tommorrow. ugh i hate psychology.   8(

[TigerUp]

I'm not sure which Earlham team Wooster played last Saturday, but it definitely didn't look like the same team Witt played tonight.   I thought the Witt vs. Earlham game would be a good game, but it was never even close.   

Witt's bench scored 36 of the points. 

Saturday should be a good game! 

[wooscotsfan]

All the NCAC 1/31 Final Scores:

Wabash 54  Ohio Wesleyan 52 (big road win for the Little Giants)
Kenyon 73  Hiram 54
Oberlin 82  Denison 76
Wittenberg 87  Earlham 40
Wooster 109  Allegheny 71

[wally_wabash]

I've got confirmation on the Wabash/OWU score.  There was no stream on the intertron tonight so I have no idea how this played out.  What I do know is that the box score is rated R.  Seriously, parental discretion is advised:

http://www.wabash.edu/sports/docs/basketballstats/200607/owum0131.htm

Wabash shoots 36% from the field, 1-12 on 3's, and 9-20 on FTs and wins.  There's really no good explanation for this, but nonetheless Wabash gets a HUGE win on the road in Delaware. 

Aside from the ugly, ugly shooting statistics, a couple of things stand out from the boxscore.  First, Ryan Stephens (who is all of a sudden playing out of his mind) goes for 11 points and 17 rebounds.  Second, Wabash never trailed in the game.  Third, Chojnacki played just 16 minutes and it doesn't look like fouls were the problem.  Not sure what happened there...hopefully we'll know more when some game stories get posted. 

[earlhamalum]

Billy_Pilgram and I were just talking about this the other day...For some odd reason Earlham goes into Wooster games with the mentality that they can play with them not the same for Wittenberg.  Ever since my freshman year when we swept Wittenberg, Coach Brown has the Tigers playing their best basketball every game since then against the EC..  (swept) That sounded just as good the second time.  I wish I could explain it, because that score against Wittenberg hasn't been that uncommon since the 99-00 season.    Maybe Coach Brown didn't like that Feeling and has his team more prepared?!?!?!?  

[wooscotsfan]

Current NCAC Standings thru 1/31 results:

Wooster 11-0 (18-2)
Wittenberg 9-2 (17-3)
Ohio Wesleyan 7-4 (13-7)
Wabash 5-6 (8-12)
Earlham 5-6 (7-13)
Hiram 5-6 (6-14)
Kenyon 4-7 (8-12)
Oberlin 3-8 (4-16)
Denison 2-9 (3-16)

[tigerup07]

Hey everyone, haven't posted in a while. kinda took a break for what are probably obvious reasons. I see someone from Witt has stolen my nick and removed the number. Well, sorry guys but I guess you'll be confused for a bit.

Good to see DC at the Witt/Kenyon women's game at Kenyon on Tuesday. Hope you enjoyed yourself, at least for the first half when it was actually good basketball. The second half was a train wreck for everyone.

Witt/Earlham - ok, I got there late. I showed up at 8:40 PM expecting to see maybe 6 or 7 minutes of the second half. Instead I walk in and there's 1:37 left on the clock. Wow... the refs just let that one go. If the game started at 7:40 like normal, and ended no later than 8:50 (i forgot to check my watch but it was not more than 10 minutes after I got there) that means it was an hour and ten minutes of basketball, including a 20 minute halftime and 40 minutes of gameplay. That leaves an extra ten minutes, including stoppages of the clock for timeouts, inbounding, injuries, foul shots, substitutions or court cleaning.
Talk about expedient!

Witt/woo - can't wait for the game, and like my witt colleagues i was a bit surprised to hear no presale down here. Yes, it's true Witt had no presale for the HPER regular season game last year, but they realized that was not the best policy and changed it this year. So karma's going beyond being a b*tch to down right vindictive this year. Regardless, having to get there early for tickets allows me time to have some dinner with my dad at one of the fine local establishments, usually the Olde Jaol.

It should be interesting with Vandervaart out. I was hoping to see a straight rematch of the December game, kinda disappointed Darth Vaart is out. If Witt wins, everyone is going to hop right on that train of Vandervaart is out, but I have to say I have seen improvement in this team and I think that even with V in the Tigers would still be able to take the Scots this time.

Unfortunately, my brain is not in a place to decipher statistics and figures because I have contracted the form of the flu that is rifling through Witt's campus right now. My house of 12 (it's a fraternity house) has all been taken down with it. It's normally been a 12-20 hour sort of thing so hopefully I'll be fully able to make the trip Saturday.

Good luck to both sides, let's hope for a close game.

P.S. - I've seen Hodgkinson play a couple times now and I can't say that there weren't some instances where I was surprised that the fouls being called against him weren't flagrant, as well as at the Witt/Bash game... I can see how maybe some of it can be construed as victim to circumstance but I saw his elbows go all over the place. Not trying to ruffle any feathers, just reporting what I saw. I've never met him but from the descriptions on here I understand he's a nice guy and isn't mean, but being mean and playing too aggressively for the sake of the game are two different things.

[David Collinge]

Witt/woo - can't wait for the game, and like my witt colleagues i was a bit surprised to hear no presale down here. Yes, it's true Witt had no presale for the HPER regular season game last year, but they realized that was not the best policy and changed it this year. So karma's going beyond being a b*tch to down right vindictive this year.

I was told by someone close to the Wooster program that Witt was offered a presale allotment of tickets and declined for logistical reasons.  In the past, Wooster has also declined similar offers from Witt, although obviously not earlier this season.  I don't know what goes into the decision-making process, and I haven't verified this information with anyone from Witt's program, but that's what I was told tonight.

I still don't think this game is going to sell out; if you come for the JV game at 5:30, that should be plenty good enough to ensure you get a ticket.  And that should be a good game too; it went to OT in Springfield!

[smedindy]

WOW! HUGE win for the LG's! WOW!

[smedindy]

Ryan Stephens is realizing that this is his last hurrah as a basketball player - so he is extra motivated. As good of a kid he is - good for him. He's a true Wabash man and will be a leader in life.

[David Collinge]

I was told by someone close to the Wooster program that Witt was offered a presale allotment of tickets and declined for logistical reasons. 

Would the person who told me this please email me?  My address can be found by clicking on my profile.  Thanks! 

[imderekpoe]

say that wooster were to lose tonight to 'gheny (it would probably take an act of God to do so but for the sake of the argument, lets say they do) and then on saturday loose to witt and then both teams win out and both finish the year with the same confrence record. they both lost to each other once and they both, obviously, lost to another ncac team how do they determine who gets the regular season title, and if they share, how do they determine where the tourney is played. do they jut flip a coin or do they use a strength of schedule thing or what? ive a;ways wandered that.[/color]

Your post is a little hard to wade through (I'm sure your psych paper will be better written ), but I think you're asking about tiebreakers. After conference record and head to head the only tiebreaker is worst loss. 

For example, if the Scots were to have lost tonight's game and again on Saturday, and both Wooster and Witt win all of their other games they would end up tied with 2 losses each.  Assuming that OWU finishes ahead of Allegheny, then Witt would win the championship because Wooster would have the worst loss. 

However, the Scots didn't lose tonight.  But if they lose to Witt and OWU the teams would still be tied after the worst-loss tiebreaker, so they would go to a coin flip. The winner of the flip gets the choice of the #1 seed or hosting the semi's and finals.  This year that might be a tough call, as there appears to be a big drop between the #3 and #4 seeds.