MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[ScotsFan]

I love it when Wooster fans feel it necessary to dump on every team that they beat.  Hoops snobbery at it's finest.   

What's that saying about jealousy and contempt???

Why is it that you feel it necessary to make some snide derogatory remark towards anything Wooster or Wittenberg related???  It'd be nice to actually come in here and see a post from you congratulating Wooster on 2 fine performances so far in the tournament, but then again, I might have to start looking for signs of the Apocalypse if that were to happen?!

[smedindy]

So 16 points under the Wooster season average isn't good enough? Yeesh...

Of course every game Centre lost this year, they gave up over 70 points. They only won once when they gave up over 70, a 72-71 squeaker at Hendrix, a team they pasted 75-38 earlier.

I think holding Capital to 55 and Wooster 16 under their season average is a good testament to their D.

[smedindy]

Scots Fan - The comment of "I expected better" did seem snobbish, though.

I mean, I expected better out of the NCAC officials this year, but you know, I was disappointed.

[Li'l Giant]

It'd be nice to actually come in here and see a post from you congratulating Wooster on 2 fine performances so far in the tournament, but then again, I might have to start looking for signs of the Apocalypse if that were to happen?!

I don't think you realize how hard it is to do that as a fan of another school when you read stuff like this:

For a team highly touted as a defense stalwart, I expected better from Centre.  This game was essentially over by halftime.

or, even this nugget:

Nothing, NOTHING, could have pleased me more, besides Wooster winning the tournament, than watching Wittenberg get sent home early.  Enjoy the early off-season and living in that slum of a town you call Springfield.  And have fun with your second-division team next year.

When we (Wabash, Witt, other NCAC fans) read stuff like that you shouldn't be surprised we aren't tripping over ourselves to congratulate you on your wins. Especially since Centre apparently wasn't worth the hype. [/sarcasm]

I'm not saying Wabash fans are all a bunch of saints. We say stupid stuff all the time, too. But none of us gets a free pass on it. This is a message board. If you don't like getting called out, don't say stuff that merits getting called out.

[blindwatchmaker]

  JCU looks like the 4th choice.  Wooster had the better win %, but Fisher had the better QoWI.  Not knowing anything at all about their facilities, my guess would be Fisher would be the higher seed and would host. 

Took some digging but Fisher's gym holds 1200.  Would they still be the best hosting site if Wooster could more than double that in one night in terms of capacity?

https://beta.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22630794&postID=114024672057945593

http://bombers.ithaca.edu/Pdfs/wvball/2005/7/26/%209482-Volleyball%20final.pdf
(see page 22 i think about opponents)

[David Collinge]

Wooster did end up shooting 55.4% for the game, and Centre was eighth in D3 in FG% defense (38.1%), so you could argue that Centre didn't play very well.  But the Colonels dictated the tempo for the first half, and it was Wooster's superior athleticism that led to the high shooting %.  Centre took a 21-19 lead with 8:03 left in the half but only scored on one other play in the half (a hoop and free throw by Patterson), failing on ten straight possessions and falling into a 15-point halftime hole.  That had to change their gameplan at both ends, since they couldn't hope to outscore the Scots by nearly a point a minute using their defense-first strategy.  That may have helped skew the final stats to make it look like Centre's defense was worse than it really was.  But Wooster's offense, especially in the person of Tim Vandervaart, was pretty much able to get the shots they wanted all night; it just took more work to find that shot than it did against Transylvania.

Actually, I think Wooster's defense was the better of the two tonight, and was the main reason the Scots were able to pull away.  The ten straight stops were based on defensive intensity (as opposed to missed opportunities by Centre). 

Centre is a very good team, but Wooster is a great team, and they played a great game.  That's no knock on Centre at all.

So go ahead, you guys, lash away at me too.  After all, I'm a Wooster fan, and evidently we're all exactly alike.   

[wally_wabash]

Centre is a very good team, but Wooster is a great team, and they played a great game.  That's no knock on Centre at all.

There you go...that's how you wrap up a tournament win (or any win really) without crapping all over the team you just beat. 

It was actually my intent initially to make a post congratulating Wooster on impressively moving through the first two rounds.  Then I got sidetracked.  If Wooster shoots next weekend like they did this weekend, a return trip to Salem could very well be in the offing. 

[Li'l Giant]

I'm a Wooster fan, and evidently we're all exactly alike.

Nobody said that. No school's fans are all alike. But there are trends.

[Witt4ever]

I'm a Wooster fan, and evidently we're all exactly alike.

Nobody said that. No school's fans are all alike. But there are trends.

[wooscotsfan]

Just back from Timken where I watched Wooster register a convincing win against a very good 24-4 Centre team.

I have to agree with David that Wooster's defense was the better of the two teams tonight.  In the last ~8 minutes of the first half, Wooster outscored the Colonels by a 20-3 count.  This run was primarily due to the Scots defense as every Centre shot was being challenged.  Centre led 21-19 early and by halftime, Wooster had taken control of the game 39-24.

IMO, the difference in Wooster's play in the last three games (OWU, Transy, Centre) has been their defensive intensity where every shot by the opponent is being challenged.  Combine strong defense with Wooster's potent offense and the Scots have notched three convincing wins.

If Wooster keeps playing defense like tonight, they have a good shot at reaching the Final Four.

Next up is old nemesis John Carroll so Wooster will need to be ready for the Streaks pressing style and containing Brandon Mimes in the lane.

Nice to see St. John Fisher and Brockport State win tonight.  Perhaps, there is a chance that we will see some games at Timken next weekend!  

[wooscotsfan]

A few other thoughts from tonight's Wooster victory:

Kudos to Coach Steve Moore for calling 3 rolling timeouts near the end of the game so Wooster seniors Tom Port, Tim Vandervaart and Andy Van Horn could each be individually recognized with a big round of applause.  Coach Moore realized that this was the last game in Timken for these 3 fine seniors IF Wooster does not host the sectional next weekend.

Tim Vandervaart played a great game tonight with 18 points (8 of 11 from the field) and 7 boards.  This was Tim's highest point total since returning from his broken wrist.

Nice to see Wooster back in the Sweet 16.  This is the 5th time in the Sweet 16 in the last 9 seasons.

Wooster is now 27-3.    GO SCOTS!

[David Collinge]

Site Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.
In addition, the men's basketball committee requires each host to videotape all contests at its site, with the intent to make available to each team a copy of the contest in which it participated. The committee also prefers sites that will not host conflicting events during the championship practice and competition. Sites will also be evaluated as to the availability of appropriate practice times for all competing teams. To host first-round, second-round or sectional contests, a regulation court as defined in 2007 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Rules and Interpretations must be used. To host sectional competition, arena seating for at least 1,000 spectators is required.

Everyone meets the minimum:
Fisher 1200 (thanks, blindwatchmaker)
Brockport 2000
JCU 2448
Wooster 3400

Factor one, quality of facility perhaps favors Wooster on size alone, but quality of "other necessary accomodations" might score higher in the cities (Rochester, Cleveland) than in little ol' Wooster.
Factor two, geographical location, I think clearly favors Fisher and Brockport.  Transportation costs are lower there than here in Ohio, but we have better weather!    As regards rotation of sites, Wooster hosted sectionals in 2003 and 2004, Brockport had one in 2002, and nobody else has hosted since 2001 or earlier (I only went back that far for purposes of this post), so if this is a factor at all it would work against the Scots.
Factor three, seeding, is either Fisher or Wooster; hard to guess.  But this is just factor three; the decision might not get this far.
Factor four, attendance history and revenue potential, has got to favor Wooster with its big gym and big crowds.  There's no question that there'd be more tickets sold here (by 2000+) than anywhere else.  But again the decision may be made before even thinking about this.

It will be very interesting to see what shakes out, but I'm still planning on visiting the Kodak City next weekend.

[smedindy]

Seeding is #3. Interesting. In women's D-1, seeding is #1, in fact it's the only priority.

[Ralph Turner]

David, I just got off the ASC Women's web site.  Here is an interesting statistic.

Chapman women had just played their first round game before 460 fans.  That brought their season attendance, home away and neutral to 3994 or 143 fans per game

They played before 4356 fans in Brownwood tonight.  That raises the cumulative fan total for Chapman to 8350 or 288 fans per game, more than doubling their previous average! 

There is an airport in Brownwood,  (BWD) so you might get a charter out of DFW, SAT or IAH. 

[goscots]

I just looked at the box score for St. Johns game tonight - 650 people attended.