MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

David, is skinny dick Pete your idol.  That kid may have been the weakest player I have ever played against in my life.  A pathetic excuse for a big man.  Also, I am glad you appreciate my email address, feel free to email any time.  I love being amused by the dim wits at Wittenberg. 

As anyone who isn't a drive-by trasher would know, David Collinge is a proud Wooster supporter - which is why he is SO distressed by you!  With a**holes like you, who needs Witt folks to trash Woo's rep?  I'm betting that, in fact, you are either a freshman at Witt (who MAY be bright but is incredibly immature) or a townie who had NO hope of getting in to Woo.

Give us time; we can only smite once every 12 hours!

Yeah, it may take us time, but if this jerk sticks around, I'm sure we can get him past even Titan2000 (last I saw, -103)!  It really hurts when your 'fellow' rooters are the worst image of your school!  (Though, for the record, Titan2000 is an Oshkosh Titan, NOT IWU!)

[earlhamalum]

BillyPilgram... don't forget Mike and Rosy's is normally the only good thing about the trip to Witt.  oh wait and the 45 minute buss drive.  Does Coach Brown get to pick the Refs for those games??  Cause he had Bo in his back pocket for years.

[smedindy]

I always thought Bo and Mike Fox were some of the better NCAC refs.

[billy_pilgrim]

Bo might have been one of the better NCAC refs.................which explains a whole lot


but Earlhamalum didn't exactly get off on the best foot with him 

I haven't seen Bo the last couple of years doing any NCAC games, though I did notice he worked the Duke/Valpo game in Chicago's United Center last December.

[earlhamalum]

smedindy... U must be a Wabash or Witt fan because he always Ref those games when we played.. and he was F-ing HORRIBLE... but if i was a wabash fan i'd think he was the 6th man... 
i ran into him (BO) in indy... those guys don't forget.. he even remembered (T)'ing me up... those losers know what they are doing half the time. I was one move away from spending a few years in jail... but like a good Earlham Grad... i flashed a Smile cause that's my style... and said "hey ONE LOVE"

[earlhamalum]

I have a game Tape my senior year First Round of the NCAC TOURNY... playing at Allegheny in O.T. with it being a 2 point game... both teams in the Bonus me getting a rebound (6'5 WHITE Senior) getting fouled and them sending a 6'0 BLACK Freshman to the line... I'm sorry but very few people would say I look like TYler Stewart.  We lost by 3 and i think he missed the front in of a one-in-one. 

Where do they find some of these guys... sorry don't want to talk about Refs.. but Basketball.. had to get that out of my system..

[smedindy]

Oh, I've seen the NCAC's 'finest' and actually they're better than the refs the ICAC / HCAC trotted out, believe me.

By calling him a 'loser' you're already setting yourself up for a lifetime of bile. Refs make mistakes, but a lot of times they make the right, yet unpopular, call. Bo is one of the better NCAC refs, believe me. They have some dunderheads on the staff and they're the ones who resent having to come to C'ville from Ohio to do games.

[smedindy]

Oh, and check the sig...

Bo was supposed to ref at Wabash when we played Tri-State but got held up because he was doing a Big 10 game and got caught in the weather.

[TMAP]

I did not realize NCAC refs did D1 games. That is interesting.

[sac]

I can do you one better.......a couple years ago (or maybe last year, can't remember) the Big 10's best crew did an Adrian College game.....then the next night were in Crisler Arena for a Michigan game.

As a side note.......most of the MIAA's officials also do a lot of the D2 games in our State, including those lovely drives to Marquette and Houghton in the UP.

For as much flack as these guys take, they simply love staying involved in the game and lead incredibly busy lives.  Many of these guys are lawyers, accountants etc.....the guy who I think is currently the best in our league is also the Manager of one the Midwest League's Class A baseball teams.  We also have a guy who is the official of a Big 10 football crew.

I'd say most are more than qualified to do a D3 game.

[David Collinge]

Here's a question for Waterboy, or anyone else with knowledge of the inner workings at Allegheny.  As you've probably read, there's a new conference forming in eastern PA and environs, and there's been a lot of speculation of what the ripple effects will be on other conferences.  Allegheny's name has been raised in connection with several conferences (notably the Prexy and Allegheny Mountain conferences) in Posting Up in the past, and I've always dismissed it since AC is a charter member of the NCAC and seems to be happy and a good fit (except maybe geographically.)  Do you think Allegheny will listen to overtures made by other conferences, or worse, will seek a new alignment in this chaos, or do you think they'll stay? 

[GoBigRed]

Anyone see the Witt-Woo game? How'd that turn out? Geez guys.

Just commenting on statements made by DenisonFan a few days ago. I totally agree. Would someone who is more versed in basketball strategy than I, mind explaining to me why Coach Ghiloni would ever have Hodgkinson (arguably the best post in the conference) out of the post? I'm trying to rationalize it and I can't, can someone with a higher bball IQ try and explain that to me? I've determined that Hern not starting is maybe to give strength to the bench, a spark maybe, thats all I can come up with for that one.

All the players who play (all 11 of them) look dead because they know their coach hasn't given them a chance to win. These coaches must be hypnotized thinking that the 6th man down on the bench can replace one of their starters without missing a beat. But thats what they do. Mistake - sub. Turnover - sub. Its really just sad. I thought they were gonna be good, too, but I didnt see this coming.

I get trying to develop underclassman, but isnt that what JV games are for? I feel horrible for Hern, Hodgkinson, and the rest of the upperclassman on that team because Ghiloni's attempt to "develop" these younger guys is costing them games and getting them accustom to losing, it will cost them the rest of the upperclassman's careers, and if he isnt careful, wont it eventually cost him his job? I'm certainly not calling for Ghiloni's head, but he's gotta figure out that what he's doing isn't working. Right?
   

[Gregory Sager]

This poll is a joke.  We crushed witten****.  Their guards are terrible, thats why they never go far in the tourny, and never will.

I hate to be the one to break this to you, WooMan, but Wittenberg has won more D3 tournament games than any other school. As for never going far in the tournament, the Tigers have won a national championship (something your Scots have yet to accomplish) and made it to the Final Four six times (again, they lead D3 in that department).

There's a reason why Woo/Witt is such a great rivalry. It's called "mutual respect". Look into it.

[waterboy]

GoBigRed,

The only explanation concerning Hodgkinson out of the paint I can fathom would be to disrupt opposing defenses and potentially make use of his ability to see over smaller guards on the perimeter.  If I'm not mistaken, Earlham put Brandon Miller at the top of the key for some of their offensive plays to utilize a similar strategy (please correct me if I'm wrong Quakers).  He is more athletic than Hodgkinson and can get to the bucket, though.  Just a thought.

DC,

In my six years of association with Allegheny, I have yet to hear anything resembling thoughts of leaving the NCAC, at least within the administration.  I'm sure there's always going to be speculation about the school joining another conference closer to home, but I think it will simply remain heresay.  I think Allegheny fits into the NCAC very well both academically and athletically.  The road trips aren't always fun (especially the trip every other year to Indiana-8 hours, ugh), but all in all the school is where it belongs, IMO.

Though, it would be nice to see the Gators dominate a conference again in something other than track & field.   

[waterboy]

FYI,

The head coach at Juniata College, Greg Curley, is also a former Gator player and assistant coach.  Juniata is of course one of the schools involved in the realignment in central Pa.