MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[DenisonFan]

Do you want me to start naming teams that play 8 & 9 guys.  Give me a break.  It is so lobsided it isn't even close.

The fact that Smed can name 5 teams means NOTHING. 

Denison does not have the depth.  It is that simple.  Sitting Hodgkinson and Hern for extended time together is a mistake. 

I don't care what other teams have in a way of a bench.  Denison is not a deep team.

Sure, from game to game someone may step up.  But game in and game out the role players have not delivered.  It has been proven each and every game.

So keep naming teams with a long bench, I don't care.  I care about Denison.

Look at stats.  You still must score to win.  So that means playing Hern and Hodgkinson and Izzo 30 plus then do it.

Did Ghiloni play Hern and Hodgkinson 33 plus because his subs were so damn good?  You know the answer.

Let's enjoy the tournament victory.

[Pat Coleman]

Agreeing to come on the condition that they not play Wooster is less obnoxious than threatening to quit if they have to play Wooster, but it's still not a terribly admirable position.

I would say this, too -- it's not rare for a team to ask for that kind of consideration in pairings.

[smedindy]

DFan -

You stated an absolute, and I refuted it. Simple as that. The fact that I named four teams in the top 10 in the D-3 poll is telling that it takes all kinds of systems and teams to win.

Also, you fail to acknowledge the fact that in WINNABLE games he's not stretching the bench - but in games like Wooster, Witt, etc. he is stretching the bench.

You can also win by playing tough D.

[DenisonFan]

Smed,

I totally agree with you.  Yes, D wins.  Detroit and Bullls proved that.

It is fun to spar with you my friend.

Have a Happy New Year and I will be back in 2006.

All the Best to everyone.  Drive carefullly if you are going out.

[ScotsFan]

However, if the ultimate source for this is the Daily Record, where fact-checking, like spelling, is not exactly a hallmark, I'll continue to reserve my doubts about the accuracy of the whole thing. 

DC,

While the Daily Record (or Daily Mistake as I sometimes refer to it as) may not be a hallmark for fact checking or spelling as you say, I do commend them on their coverage of the College of Wooster sports, and more specifically COW football, basketball and baseball, seeing as those are the marquee sports.  In saying this, I think it is a fair assessment that any facts that may have been laid out by the sportswriters for the Daily Record, i.e.  Lycoming being a late edidtion to the tournament, and agreeing to come if they didn't meet Wooster in the first round probably came from Wooster's SID.  I may be wrong, but it seems that Wooster's SID keeps a pretty good relationship with the paper and vice versa.  So the facts of this case might be more accurate than you're giving people credit for.

[Li'l Giant]

In the second scenario, Lycoming's acceptance of Wooster's valid offer was made expressly conditional that they not play Wooster.  Because the common law applies, a purported acceptance that introduces new or different terms is treated as a rejection and a counteroffer.  If Wooster agreed to this counteroffer, as we can infer from the facts, than a valid contract was formed with the condition that Wooster not play Lycoming in the first game.  In this scenario, Wooster would not have an actionable position.

I would argue that there was no acceptance of Wooster's original offer. That Lycoming made a counteroffer, thereby rejecting Wooster's offer, as you lay out in your second scenario.

Warning to Kyle Witucky: This is what your life will be like for the next 3+ years. It's not too late to change your mind about law school!

(I can hear Li'l Giant banging his head against the wall all the way from San Antonio. )

There needs to be a series of PSAs that air on college radio that warn people what law school is really like. Boy I wish there had been when I was sitting in Martindale Hall listening to WNDY.

[smedindy]

Wabash plays host to Greenville College on Tuesday night. On paper, it looks like a mismatch. Greenville has one just once, against a Chiropractic school at that - and it looks like their best player quit the team after four games.

As I said, on paper a mismatch.

[Li'l Giant]

against a Chiropractic school at that

Would have expected them to make the necessary....ahem...adjustments. 

[Pat Coleman]

Ugh. You gotta have some spine to make a crack like that.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ouch!  Please don't use spine and crack in the same sentence!

[BogeyMan]

Could it be possible that BW & Wooster wanted to play a regional game instead of taking a chance of not playing any regional opponents in the tournament?  I would predict that the above scenario has a higher probability of happening than one of the other teams saying we won't come unless we play a certain team.  Most college coaches and teams look forward to playing good competition.

[TheRed]

DF,

Your comments are almost unbearable.  If u really want me to call Hern, Hodge, Izzo, Julian, Pete, and Wags I can because their numbers are in my cell phone.  But really, it's none of your business whats going on within the team.  And just because I do know doesn't mean that I'm going to come on here and tell a bunch of people that I don't know and have nothing to do with the program.  I'm just telling you that your theories about why the team is struggling are incorrect.

Also, stats aren't as important as you make them out to be.  You can't coach a team based on stats.  Many guys bring other things to the table that don't show up on a stat line and that is perhaps why they play. 

Leadership is what Denison is missing.  DF, you say Hern and Hodge bring it every night, but the other guys don't.  For one, I don't believe that.  And two, if they are so good as you think they are, they should be able to get the best out of their teammates every night.  (this is nothing against Hern and Hodge because they are very good players.  i'm jnust trying to prove a point and possibly motivate those guys if they read this crap)

[CentralOH]

Maybe DenisonFan is playing fantasy d3hoops?  I agree with TheRed - stats don't tell the whole story...

[smedindy]

Wabash rolls past Greenville 82-57. The game was kind of sloppy, Wabash committed 24 turnovers and each team had 16 steals. No one played more than 21 minutes and Coach Petty did a few line changes. Wabash went on a 26-4 run in the first half to all but seal it up.

Next up - Allegheny on Friday night.

[woosterbooster]

Wow.  Wooster dropped only one spot in the poll, falling behind a team that they've already beaten.  Yet, they remain 9 spots ahead of the only team who bested them, Baldwin-Wallace.  This just shows how much weight inertia carries in the polls.  A team starting in the top two or three is going to have to pick up three or four losses to leave the top ten.  And, conversely, a team beginning at the back end of the top 25 will need to run off a heck of a streak to break into the top five.

In my opinion, Wooster is a team that's capable of defeating nearly any DIII team that's out there.  But, on a cold night and given an opponent with a very good big guy, they've also got a shot at losing to someone ranked as low as 40 or 50.

Jack