MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

Started by WoosterFAN, January 27, 2005, 10:51:56 AM

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ScotsFan

And seinfeld's point went completely over your heads.  Surprise surprise?! 

Once again, he wasn't trying to imply that Wooster's winning tradition should grant them preferential treatment!  I don't know how to spell it out any better for you?!  His point was to show that despite the conspiracy theorists crawling out of their caves in Crawfordsville crying that they are at an unfair advantage because they are the outsiders from Indiana and all the big bad Ohio schools have some sort of arrangement with the NCAC officials, Wooster seems to still be called for more fouls than their opponents!  Thanks for once again reading into something that wasn't there and blowing it completely out of proportion though...

BTW wally.  Have you ever heard of the term conference loyalty???  Apparently they don't teach you that in Indiana either???  But, I guess since you and your other Wallies were late joining the NCAC party and never have felt like you have been fully embraced by the conference, I can understand your lack of conference loyalty.  :-\ 

countyroad

Basketball hasn't been kind to Indianans lately.  Maybe Wally just needs someone to take his frustrations out on.

GoRed

In the spirit of conference loyalty - GO SCOTS!!!  I don't know a thing about Guilford, but in looking at the stats and results, they have had a lot of blow out wins and not a lot of close games.  They either are unbelievably good or they don't really play anybody.  

Seems to me you have a big guy to contend with that scores and rebounds a lot, but can't shoot free throws.  Gee, what do you do with somebody like that?  

Good luck Wooster fans.

wally_wabash

What I want to see during basketball season is Wabash winning and getting into the national tournament.  It's been far, far too long since that has happened.  If Wooster winning tournament games helps Wabash do that, then I'm all for it.  But that's ludicrous and as such I'm entirely indifferent to what Wooster does in the tournament.  Again, I don't want to see Wooster lose...I just don't care either way.  I'm just being honest and I don't see how that's a crime. 

It might be time for you guys to let go of all of this conspiracy theory stuff.  There are no arrangements, the league isn't out to get Wabash, Wabash isn't an outsider...there are no conspiracies.  It's just basketball fellas.  Nothing more, nothing less. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

David Collinge

Guilford's Ragan-Brown Field House looks an awful lot like OWU's Branch Rickey Arena, except with a higher ceiling.

ArmingtonCave

5 minutes in.  We are in for a long night.  Guilford is big and I don't think we match up very well.  Oh well.

ScotsFan

Quote from: David Collinge on March 12, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
Guilford's Ragan-Brown Field House looks an awful lot like OWU's Branch Rickey Arena, except with a higher ceiling.

Heard on the Wooster pre-game it's the same architecht.  Small world eh?

ScotsFan

Quote from: ArmingtonCave on March 12, 2010, 08:39:06 PM
5 minutes in.  We are in for a long night.  Guilford is big and I don't think we match up very well.  Oh well.

Hang in there.  Still a LOT of basketball left to play.   :)

ArmingtonCave

Quote from: ScotsFan on March 12, 2010, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: ArmingtonCave on March 12, 2010, 08:39:06 PM
5 minutes in.  We are in for a long night.  Guilford is big and I don't think we match up very well.  Oh well.

Hang in there.  Still a LOT of basketball left to play.   :)


Oh I know. 

In a related note I played 18 holes at LC Boles this afternoon for good luck.

ScotsFan

Well.  I can't quite understand Wooster's gameplan so far.  I know that Sanborn creates problems inside, but Wooster is not even trying to get the ball inside with any sort of penatration?!  As a result, they trail at the half by 18.  Ugh...  :-[

If there is a silver lining, JCU trailed last week in the 2nd half by 17 and came all the way back to take the lead.  Wooster had better make some serious halftime adjustments or this one is all but over I'm afraid.  :-\

ScotsFan

Quote from: ArmingtonCave on March 12, 2010, 08:47:15 PM
In a related note I played 18 holes at LC Boles this afternoon for good luck.

How was the course?  I'd imagine it would be pretty soggy out there.  I had some thoughts of dusting the clubs off this week, but just didn't have the time.

smedindy

Quote from: ScotsFan on March 12, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
And seinfeld's point went completely over your heads.  Surprise surprise?! 

Once again, he wasn't trying to imply that Wooster's winning tradition should grant them preferential treatment!  I don't know how to spell it out any better for you?! 

Actually, he was implying that by typing the words "despite their winning tradition" and then making another assumption regarding fouls called on losing teams are greater than fouls called on winning teams. I was trying to be neutral in my analysis.

I did not have time to look at the historical data over a period of years, nor see about score and time remaining of fouls. This year may be aberrational. Or, they could pile-up fouls when it's not close or not late, and then not foul when it's close and late. I could be all Nate Silver on it.

If you want me to do that - I can. But you gotta pay me my daily rate to do that instead of my client work.

Sorry you chose not to look deep into what I was actually saying and instead knee-jerk to partisanship.

Wabash Always Fights!

ArmingtonCave

Quote from: ScotsFan on March 12, 2010, 09:12:29 PM
Quote from: ArmingtonCave on March 12, 2010, 08:47:15 PM
In a related note I played 18 holes at LC Boles this afternoon for good luck.

How was the course?  I'd imagine it would be pretty soggy out there.  I had some thoughts of dusting the clubs off this week, but just didn't have the time.

Actually it was in decent shape for so early in the year.  the 7th green was a mess but overall pretty good.  It was pretty busy too.

seinfeld

Smed,

How many Wooster games have you seen this year?

And by the way, did you guys just miss the point about losing teams usually have to foul winning teams at the end of games, therefore driving up their foul totals outside the course of normal play? Or do you just choose to ignore stuff just to make some point that has nothing to do with what the actual point was?

smedindy

It's hard to see Wooster games in Minnesota.

Did you NOT see the part in my post where in Wooster's five losses, only three times did they have more fouls than opponents. A (losing) does not seem to correlate strongly to B (fouling more). It depends on many factors. Sometimes bad defensive teams don't foul at all because they can't get close enough to their opponents. Sometimes, when you're down by double digits you don't foul, because there's no point to it.

I did check it a little. Over the past 10 seasons, Wooster has committed 34 more fouls total than their opponents. 3.4 fouls PER YEAR more, on average. Not per game, per season. I haven't gotten into W/L or anything like that, but to me there's no there there.
Wabash Always Fights!