MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[woosterbooster]

It's my opinion.  Seems that you voice yours on here more than occasionally, and I'm going to also.

[David Collinge]

ONU 72, Allegheny 60.

[wally_wabash]

It's my opinion.  Seems that you voice yours on here more than occasionally, and I'm going to also.

So you have no empirical evidence to support your claims that (and I'll not paraphrase your words here...you said all of these things):
1) JCU fouls 60 times per game
2) JCU fouls 3x more than they get called for fouling
3) Game officials let JCU get away fouling because they are overwhelmed and worried about the flow of the game
4) Game officials let JCU get away with fouling because they think the fans will get tired of hearing whistles

These are all claims that you've made on this subject.  These aren't a matter of opinion...these things are either happening or they aren't.  If (as I strongly suspect) they aren't, you're falsely accusing the officials of doing something other than their job and you should acknowledge it. 

[David Collinge]

And if they are, I suppose you'll acknowledge it and apologize?

I'd be interested in hearing how you propose that these things be either proven or disproven, empirically, but I'm far more interested in seeing the immediate end of this ridiculousness.

[ScotsFan]

Wasn't calling you names wally.  Just stating how you are perceived by more than just me here in this forum with your constant badgering...

And I second David's proposal of ending this.  Furthermore, I should have never let myself get sucked in again.  As I said earlier, life was much more pleasant before when I just pretended wallyworld didn't exist...

Off to Timken to hopefully see the Scots improve to 11-0! 

[wally_wabash]

And if they are, I suppose you'll acknowledge it and apologize?

I'd be interested in hearing how you propose that these things be either proven or disproven, empirically, but I'm far more interested in seeing the immediate end of this ridiculousness.

Acknowledge that my position is wrong, sure if there is proof that what WooBoo said is true.  I've nothing to apologize for, though.  I haven't insulted anybody...just trying to get to the bottom of the Booster's claims.  And that's important here...the Booster has accused the officials of giving JCU a free pass.  I think the burden of proof is on the accuser here. 

[wally_wabash]

Wabash is out to a 16-2 lead at Franklin.  Wes Smith has 12 points early on for Wabash.

Franklin did well to weather the early Wabash onslaught and chipped away at the lead for the rest of the half.  Wabash goes to the break with a 38-35 lead.

10 minutes to go...Wabash leads 60-59.  The lead has gone back and forth several times here in the second half.  It would seem that Franklin is having a lot of success in the painted area, both scoring and rebounding.  I'm noticing that Pete Nicksic is not playing for Wabash tonight.  I think these items are related.  

The livestats have been stalled out with Wabash leading 65-61 and 8:16 remaining for some time now.  I may not know what happened here until the game story shows up later tonight!

[kiltedbryan]

Wabash is out to a 16-2 lead at Franklin.  Wes Smith has 12 points early on for Wabash.

Franklin did well to weather the early Wabash onslaught and chipped away at the lead for the rest of the half.  Wabash goes to the break with a 38-35 lead.

Wooster's in a similar situation, leading Wilmington 37-34 at the half, except that in this case the half was close throughout.  Wilmington generally held a small lead until Wooster took a lead with a few minutes left in the half.

For Woo, Balch with 11, Franks 8, Hallowell 8.  Wilmington is led by Bowman with 10, Vonderhaar 8 and Wellman 8.


SECOND HALF UPDATE:

Wooster comes out strong, riding 8 straight points from Bryan Wickliffe, and it's now 52-43 with about 13 mins. left.
Wilmington comes right back, trimming the lead to 56-52 at about the 10:30 mark.

Wooster 68-56 at the 8:30 mark.  Wooster already into the double bonus, and they've been making their free throws.  Wooster's biggest lead of the night, but this one still doesn't feel put away by the Scots.

Wooster remaining in control, still up 12 at 75-63 with 4 mins left.  Antonio Bowman having a great game for Wilmington, with 24.  Wickliffe with 14 & 8; Hallowell with 11 & 7 for Wooster.

[David Collinge]

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[wally_wabash]

The livestats are stalled out, bashbro.  I think we'll be left in suspense until we either get a @wabashsid tweet or an update to the d3hoops.com scoreboard.

And just like that it's back!  LGs are up 73-71 with 3:00 to go.  

And it's over.  Derek Bailey hit a pair of giant free throws with 12 seconds left to push Wabash ahead 77-74.  Looks like Franklin failed to get off a shot and the final score is 77-74 in favor of Wabash.  Not the prettiest result over a team that Wabash beat by 40 earlier this season, but it's a positive result nonetheless.  LGs go to 12-0 and are now finished with non-league play. 

Wabash is back in action next Wednesday with a home date against Denison and then of course the big showdown with Wooster on 1/8. 

[kiltedbryan]

Wooster 86, Wilmington 79, Final

Wooster pulls out the game, but loses the last five minutes.  With Wooster up 15 with just under 5 to go, Wilmington nearly comes all the way back, cutting the lead to 3 with 0:15 left...but Wooster nails 4-4 FTs in the closing possessions to secure the (somewhat shaky) 86-79 win.

[David Collinge]

A word of caution to those who may be following the Denison/LebVal game on live stats: ignore the team logos.  LebVal's score is listed above Denison's logo.  It's been a close game throughout, but I just realized that it's LebVal, not DU, who has been playing from ahead and now leads 51-46 with 10 minutes left.

[wabco]

I think Wabash suffered from foul trouble on Curosh and absence of Nicksic from the lineup.  Needed those big men on the inside.  Otherwise the stats look pretty nominal.  Anyway, a win is a win.  Hope there was a good crowd.  From the live stats ... when they were live ... looks like a fun game to watch.  The heat of winning close ones hardens the steel.

[wally_wabash]

I think Wabash suffered from foul trouble on Curosh and absence of Nicksic from the lineup.  Needed those big men on the inside.  Otherwise the stats look pretty nominal.  Anyway, a win is a win.  Hope there was a good crowd.  From the live stats ... when they were live ... looks like a fun game to watch.  The heat of winning close ones hardens the steel.

Spot on about Nicksic.  Hopefully whatever it is that had him out tonight isn't a long term thing.  Without Nicksic in the rotation, Wabash played a lot of 4-guard minutes tonight and wound up -10 on rebound margin.  The LGs are going to need that extra depth in the post for league play. 

[David Collinge]

All the scores:

OWU 82, St. Vincent 77
Ohio Northern 72, Allegheny 60
Wittenberg 74, Kean 60...nice win over an 8-3 team from a good conference
Bryant (D1) 71, Oberlin 42
Muskingum 63, Hiram 55...bad loss at home
Wooster 86, Wilmington 79
Wabash 77, Franklin 74
Lebanon Valley 73, Denison 65

Non-conference: 38-33.