MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

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bashbrother

Does this all mean that Wabash's win over Randolph-Macon will not affect in any way how they are viewed by the tournament committee?

I agree with the statement that a game is a game and should benefit with a win and negatively affect with a loss.
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

wally_wabash

Quote from: bashbrother on December 30, 2010, 08:13:00 PM
Does this all mean that Wabash's win over Randolph-Macon will not affect in any way how they are viewed by the tournament committee?

I agree with the statement that a game is a game and should benefit with a win and negatively affect with a loss.

By the handbook, no. Wabash's result against R-MC doesn't factor unless the committee moves to the secondary criteria.  However, I'm not entirely convinced that there is a clear boundary between the primary and secondary critera...which is to say that I don't think the committee applies the criteria as analytically as most people would if they were given the handbook's set of rules and told to pick a tournament field.  I think the fairest thing that we could say about non-regional results is that while the SOS math may not show up, it never ever hurts to win regardless of who you play. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

David Collinge

Salve Regina 60, Oberlin 49
Wittenberg 62, Taylor 60 ... Witt led for the last 8 minutes, but barely held on for another quality win. 

Old Man 2010 hands a 39-34 non-con record to Baby 2011.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: wally_wabash on December 30, 2010, 08:31:07 PM
Quote from: bashbrother on December 30, 2010, 08:13:00 PM
Does this all mean that Wabash's win over Randolph-Macon will not affect in any way how they are viewed by the tournament committee?

I agree with the statement that a game is a game and should benefit with a win and negatively affect with a loss.

By the handbook, no. Wabash's result against R-MC doesn't factor unless the committee moves to the secondary criteria.  However, I'm not entirely convinced that there is a clear boundary between the primary and secondary critera...which is to say that I don't think the committee applies the criteria as analytically as most people would if they were given the handbook's set of rules and told to pick a tournament field.  I think the fairest thing that we could say about non-regional results is that while the SOS math may not show up, it never ever hurts to win regardless of who you play. 

The Wabash and Randolph-Macon game should be counted as in-region.

They're both in administrative region #3: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia.

http://d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament#regional

wally_wabash

So it is.  Awesome.  Thanks, Knight!
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

pennstghs

Few thoughts from the Witt/Taylor game tonight, my first in person game of the year!!!!

Witt is still not complete as I"m not sure what the status of Josh McKee is but David Hieber is out with an injury, should be back next week. Regardless of how deep your team is when you're without two returning starters from last year and already lost 2 to graduation, it takes time.

Witt tried to give the game away in the last minute of the game. Up 5 they threw away an inbounds pass, which Taylor made a 3 to make it a 2 point game. With 6 seconds left or so, Clayton Black missed the front end of a one and one and then with some luck/good defense Taylor had a good look to tie that missed and then barely missed a tip as time expired. Another solid non-conference win for Witt.

Witt looked really good offensively tonight, not sure if there's any singular defender in the NCAC that can match up with Black and if Sullivan is hitting, that's a tough inside/outside combo.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Witt goes on a little run. They have 3 home games next week, then a winnable road game at Kenyon , then 2 more home games. That could set them up well.
WE ARE.................PENN STATE!
"Let's GO WITT"

seinfeld

Nice (and long) story about a former Wooster player Lamont Paris, who is now an assistant coach for Wisconsin and coaching for a former Div. III coach in Bo Ryan. Wooster is also talked about a lot, and for good measure, DePauw finds its way into the story.

http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/123110aab.html

David Collinge

For those more interested in Wooster hoops than college football bowl games (Who's with me!  Let's go!  Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!  [Blutarsky runs out of the room alone]):

Wooster vs. William Carey, 5pm (at Daytona Beach) -- audio; and I suspect live stats will be available here


wooscotsfan

#10629
At the Half:  Wooster 36  William Carey 28

Wooster is being led by Nathan Balch with 10 points, Bryan Wickliffe with 9 points and Ian Franks with 7 pts.

For William Carey, top scorers are Verice Cloyd with 8 points, Drew Meyerchick with 6 and Jaron Edwards with 6.

Wooster shot only 36% in the half but they outrebounded William Carey 24 to 16.  Scots also made 10 of 12 FT's.

UPDATE:  11:27 Left  Wooster 51  William Carey 35  Scots have made 4 more three pointers in 2nd half

wooscotsfan

#10630
Final:  Wooster 72  William Carey 55 :)

Wooster was led in scoring by Nathan Balch with 13 points, Justin Hallowell with 11, Bryan Wickliffe with 11, Jake Mays with 8 and Ryan Snyder also with 8.

William Carey was led by Verice Cloyd with 15 points and Kevin Branch with 7 points.

Scots won this game with good defense, by making 11 three pointers and outrebounding William Carey 44 to 31.

Wooster is now 12-0  ;D  Next game is tomorrow vs. Baruch

GO SCOTS!

David Collinge

Happy New Year!

Three games on Sunday:
Kenyon at Muskingum, 2pm -- audio and live stats
Wooster vs. Baruch, 2pm (at Daytona Beach) -- audio, video($) and live stats
Case Western Reserve at Oberlin, 3pm -- video and live stats

woosterbooster

Did anyone else try to get that video to work today?  I couldn't.  After registering and paying for the game, I could never get the video window begin playing the game.  It told me I needed an update to WMP and to press a button to get it.  I downloaded and installed it.  That changed nothing, I kept getting the same message.  Finally, minutes before the actual tipoff, I cancelled the event.  I don't know if I'll be able to get my $6.95 back or not.

David Collinge

I often can't even get free video to work--just ask the Yoder Bros., with whom I'm in constant communication about my inability to get StreamOWU to work.  So no, I didn't pay for this stream.  Sorry about your misfortune.

woosterbooster

Ha.  I not only lost $6.95 but also three karma points.  What a surprise.