MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[smedindy]

Irrational indeed. That sounds excessive to me.

Hence the wink...

[wally_wabash]

So the Wabash student broadcast team calling a game for their team, sans remuneration, for the student radio station watches the team beat an undefeated and top ranked team on the road, in overtime...one of the biggest and most important wins in program history mind you...got excited at the end of the press table and got out of their chairs.  We should hardly be beating them down for that.  It was a big deal.  A very big deal. 

See, for Wooster, every game is just another game.  They're the alpha dog in this league.  You can't expect folks with passion about their team to not get excited when they win a game with that kind of drama and significance. 

[Pat Coleman]

Somehow, at other schools, it manages to not happen either. Not just Wooster. Many, many, many places. Been to the Final Four, where it is actually an even bigger deal, and somehow plenty of student broadcast teams manage to keep their seats. (In fact, I've never seen a student broadcast team stand up in that manner at the Final Four.)

[GoRed]

I for one don't see the foul, given: a) they are students and b) how I have seen older, non-student fans from one of those schools behave in Granville when their team was losing.  Granted, most of the other student broadcasters I have listened to generally keep themselves in check, but I certainly wouldn't complain about any of them if they did get more than a little excited about winning a game like that.  I'm sorry, but it appears to be a little bit of sour grapes on the part of the losing side here. 

BTW, ScotsFan.  "Rediculous" = r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s.  I couldn't let 3x in the same posting go.

Let me know how things turn out.  I'll be focusing on the women's tournament. 

[woosterbooster]

Comparing the actions of normal fans as opposed to those people who are "working" a game is apples to oranges.  One of the first things anyone should be taught when working a game, in any capacity (scorekeeper, clock, broadcaster, etc.) is how to act in a professional manner.  I would think that this would especially apply to students, and that it should be fresh in their minds, considering that they are new to what they're doing.

[GoRed]

Ironic that you to would be taking the higher ground now after suggesting you would like to see someone fall off a ladder if your team didn't win the tournament.   

Apparently the nurse arrived with your medications.   

[David Collinge]

I for one don't see the foul, given: a) they are students and b) how I have seen older, non-student fans from one of those schools behave in Granville when their team was losing.  Granted, most of the other student broadcasters I have listened to generally keep themselves in check, but I certainly wouldn't complain about any of them if they did get more than a little excited about winning a game like that.  I'm sorry, but it appears to be a little bit of sour grapes on the part of the losing side here.

I gently remind you that this foofaraw started when Wally chided CPI's semiprofessional announcers for unacceptable behavior (a point with which Wooster Booster immediately agreed), and then argued that even worse behavior is acceptable when it comes from (Wabash) non-professional announcers:

That's how those two guys for CPI announce every Wooster game.  Did you catch the part in the broadcast where one guy actually booed?  That was classic. 

I apologize in advance for any misspelled words.

[ScotsFan]

I for one don't see the foul, given: a) they are students and b) how I have seen older, non-student fans from one of those schools behave in Granville when their team was losing.  Granted, most of the other student broadcasters I have listened to generally keep themselves in check, but I certainly wouldn't complain about any of them if they did get more than a little excited about winning a game like that.  I'm sorry, but it appears to be a little bit of sour grapes on the part of the losing side here.  BTW, ScotsFan.  "Rediculous" = r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s.  I couldn't let 3x in the same posting go.

Let me know how things turn out.  I'll be focusing on the women's tournament. 

Sour grapes from the losing side? Really?  I think David pretty much summed up where our responses were coming from and it had NOTHING to do with sour grapes for losing to a good basketball team!  Maybe if you tried as hard at reading comprehension as you do at being the grammar police you would realize this?! 

Oh, and  thanks for the spelling lesson.  Much appreciated?!   My life is complete now that I know the proper spelling of ridiculous.  Which is pretty much how I feel about your response BTW...   Uh oh.  I hope the newly self appointed grammar police isn't going to be critical of me for not spelling out b-y  t-h-e  w-a-y???    Oh, the horror???   

[wally_wabash]

I didn't say it was acceptable, DC.  What I am saying is that what happened there (and let's also remember that we are getting one side's account of the incident...a side that may be biased) is hardly a crime against humanity.  Who got hurt by those kids getting excited about that moment?  Did some innocent bystander get bonked by a flying headset?  Did they spill somebody's dasani?  Were they taunting mothers behind them?  Seriously...aside from the feelings of a few nitpicky fans in this forum getting hurt, where's the harm in standing up and sharing a high five?  Should it be going on all game, every game?  Of course not...but at the conclusion of a dramatic and important game like that I think we can put it in perspective and understand what happened. 

#1 has been beaten exactly three times all season.  Only one of those times did #1 lose at home.  The moment was enormous.  You can't be as good as Wooster is and expect people not to get worked up when they beat you.  It comes with the territory. 

[ScotsFan]

You're completely missing the point as to why I brought up the actions of the Wabash radio guys in the first place?!  We get it.  Wabash Lil Giants slayed the mighty beast that is Wooster.  Wabash always fights.  And the student radio guys got a little wrapped up in the moment.  Yadda yadda yadda. 

The actual point you are missing is, you made a snide and snarky comment  (I know, there's a real shocker) regarding Wooster's cable broadcasters, so I was simply letting you know that your own wally radio guys were acting equally or even more unprofessional than Wooster's local cable access guys.  End of story, or so I thought...

Now, can we move on to talking basketball yet, or should we be expecting more grammar lessons from GoRed??? 

[wally_wabash]

The actual point you are missing is, you made a snide and snarky comment  (I know, there's a real shocker) regarding Wooster's cable broadcasters, so I was simply letting you know that your own wally radio guys were acting equally or even more unprofessional than Wooster's local cable access guys. 

But that's exactly it...one of these broadcast teams is professional, the other is not.  The standards ARE different.  And I'll go a step further and say that whatever it is that the Wabash guys did by standing up and high fiving or whatever, pales in comparison to having your p-b-p guy literally boo a referee during game action.  Listeners to the Wabash broadcast probably never even knew what was happening...the product wasn't affected.  Those listening/watching the CPI team had the product compromised because this guy can't stop being a fan for an hour and a half, even though he's being paid to do so. 

And why do you or seinfeld or anybody else who isn't on the row care at all what happens on the row?  How are those guys affecting you in any way?  Did they run into the stands and facepalm you when the buzzer went off?  Did they taunt you?  Call you some names?  What did those kids do to you or anybody else there that has you on this board killing them for getting caught up in the moment?  Whether it's the other teams fans or radio guys or the game officials, nobody can find a way to sour a college basketball experience like some of you Wooster guys.  It's amazing really. 

[Pat Coleman]

But that's exactly it...one of these broadcast teams is professional, the other is not.  The standards ARE different. 

The expected behavior in a professional environment is absolutely not different, and that should be made clear to all student broadcasters, whether they have one fan posting on this board in their defense or zero.

[ScotsFan]

The actual point you are missing is, you made a snide and snarky comment  (I know, there's a real shocker) regarding Wooster's cable broadcasters, so I was simply letting you know that your own wally radio guys were acting equally or even more unprofessional than Wooster's local cable access guys. 

But that's exactly it...one of these broadcast teams is professional, the other is not.  The standards ARE different.  And I'll go a step further and say that whatever it is that the Wabash guys did by standing up and high fiving or whatever, pales in comparison to having your p-b-p guy literally boo a referee during game action.   Listeners to the Wabash broadcast probably never even knew what was happening...the product wasn't affected.  Those listening/watching the CPI team had the product compromised because this guy can't stop being a fan for an hour and a half, even though he's being paid to do so. 

To call CPI's broadcast crew 'professional' is one of the biggest LOL statements I have ever heard!     As I said in another post, most, if not all of these CPI broadcast guys do this on the side!  One of them is a Baptist minister.  One of them works as Director of Public Information at the COW.  I'd be surprised if they even got paid by CPI and if they do, it can't be all too much?!

As for why I care about the actions of the wally radio guys?  I really don't.  In fact, at the time, I actually thought it was more humorous than anything because the wally radio guys looked more foolish than anything else. 

But, ultimately, Pat summed things up pretty clearly with his last statement,  IMO.

[BashDad]

While I agree technically with Pat's post, Wally's point is well taken. There's a difference between in-game homer-ism and cheering an outcome after the fact. Enthusiasm gushing out happens, even in the most professional of environments. Sportcenter's "Calls of the Week" aren't solicited from the loser's broadcast.

[sac]

Best argument ever about radio announcers.