MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

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smedindy

Wooster takes care of Allegheny 86-64. Here endeth any chance for Allegheny to make the NCAC tourney.
Wabash Always Fights!

smedindy

Kenyon beats Denison 73-61, taking a bit of the muddle out of that logjam.

HOWEVER, DPU is giving Witt the business 42-24 AT Wittenberg with 14:44 left.

OWU is taking care of Wabash 53-38.

Hiram is losing at Oberlin, 34-28. Gut check time for the Terriers.
Wabash Always Fights!

smedindy

#13427
Hiram's Steve Zivoder just fouled out via technical foul. Hiram's losing 42-30 with 7:59 to go.

The Terriers are on a six minute scoreless streak. Not a way to get into the tourney.
Wabash Always Fights!

smedindy

#13428
Wabash cut the lead to five, but OWU went on a run late in the game and eased past Wabash 79-64.

HUGE win for Oberlin, beating Hiram 59-50. That's crushing for the Terriers.

DPU takes care of Witt 70-62.

The middle muddle moves up to the 3-5 line...

Standings:

Wooster 14-1
OWU 11-4
DePauw 8-7
Witt 8-7
Kenyon 8-7
Denison 7-8
Wabash 6-9
Oberlin 5-10
Hiram 5-10
Allegheny 3-12
Wabash Always Fights!

goscots

Well - Alleghany utilized the zone tonight and you might think it worked with a mere three 3 point Wooster lead at half time but the issue was not offense but rather good shooting by Alleghany. But the Gators miss all 10 3's in the second half to create the easy victory.

In the post game interview Coach Moore did acknowledge that the continue to work on their zone offense. Wabash probably has done the Scots a huge favor by exposing thir weakness with enough time in the season to correct.

With his 703rd victory Coach Moore has now moved into sole possession of 3rd place for All time coaching victories at the Men's Division III level. Given #1 and #2 are still coaching, not sure if he would ever catch them (or want to catch them).

Finally - Since Alleghany defeated Wooster in Feb. 1998, Wooster has now won 167 consecutive games against non "w" NCAC teams (ya - I'm cheating by putting DePauw in the "w' group). It's a cherry pick statistic but still amazing. Only 17 of those victories have been by less than 10 points - Including that game in Gambier in '09 that they had no business winning).

WAlum

Wooster has been quite impressive FOR YEARS in league play.  Dominant!


fantastic50

Quote from: goscots on February 13, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
Finally - Since Alleghany defeated Wooster in Feb. 1998, Wooster has now won 167 consecutive games against non "w" NCAC teams (ya - I'm cheating by putting DePauw in the "w' group). It's a cherry pick statistic but still amazing. Only 17 of those victories have been by less than 10 points - Including that game in Gambier in '09 that they had no business winning).

What about the home game against Denison about three or four years ago, in which Justin Hallowell hit a 30-footer at the buzzer to send it into overtime, and then the Scots went on to win?

goscots

Yes  -I forgot about that game - I wasn't there that night. it's not in the list of 17 becuase Wooster ended up winning by 10 in OT. Another game was in Dec. '05 at Earlham. Kyle Witucky hit a running floater down the lane to give Wooster the win by 2 in OT. The critical point was one the previous Earlham possession when Wooster had only a 1 point lead but Earlham had the ball for the last shot. I believe it was Terrell Brown who got fouled on a drive and could have put Earlham into the lead and made any Wooster shot more tense. Instead he hit 1-2.

smedindy

There's so much that can happen this weekend, but one nightmare (!) scenario is this

Wooster beats DPU as expected
Denison upsets OWU
Hiram upsets Witt
Gheny upsets Kenyon

All four of those teams would finish tied for third at 8-8

Wabash Always Fights!

ohiofan1954

well if the nighmare you mention does happen I hope the tie breakers are a little more understandable then we had in football this year.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
Yes  -I forgot about that game - I wasn't there that night. it's not in the list of 17 becuase Wooster ended up winning by 10 in OT.

A ten-point overtime win is a closer game than a one-point win in regulation.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

seinfeld

Quote from: smedindy on February 14, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
There's so much that can happen this weekend, but one nightmare (!) scenario is this

Wooster beats DPU as expected
Denison upsets OWU
Hiram upsets Witt
Gheny upsets Kenyon

All four of those teams would finish tied for third at 8-8

I wish I could be as confident in Wooster winning at DePauw, but I'm not. Wooster has lost the last three times it has traveled to Indiana, including a 9-point loss to DePauw there last year. And if it wasn't for Thorpe going off over the last four minutes of the first meeting, Wooster would have lost that game as well. And even in Wooster's two wins over DePauw last year, they had to hang on in the final minute just to win at home. It seems the Tigers get up for Wooster more than they do Oberlin.

goscots

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 14, 2013, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
Yes  -I forgot about that game - I wasn't there that night. it's not in the list of 17 becuase Wooster ended up winning by 10 in OT.

A ten-point overtime win is a closer game than a one-point win in regulation.

Agree - I should have included that game.  But even more to your point - I conveniently picked <10 point difference because there are many games in the 10-12 point difference and the "story" wouldn't have sounded as good. It is no different than a baseball analyst saying a batter is "3 for his last 15", which means he is also "4 for his last 16". Selectively picking statistics happens everywhere.


bufordscot

Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2013, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 14, 2013, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
Yes  -I forgot about that game - I wasn't there that night. it's not in the list of 17 becuase Wooster ended up winning by 10 in OT.

A ten-point overtime win is a closer game than a one-point win in regulation.

Agree - I should have included that game.  But even more to your point - I conveniently picked <10 point difference because there are many games in the 10-12 point difference and the "story" wouldn't have sounded as good. It is no different than a baseball analyst saying a batter is "3 for his last 15", which means he is also "4 for his last 16". Selectively picking statistics happens everywhere.
Not sure how 3 last 15 means he is also 4of last 16 but it could mean he is 3 for his last 100.

woosterbooster

Quote from: bufordscot on February 14, 2013, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2013, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 14, 2013, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
Yes  -I forgot about that game - I wasn't there that night. it's not in the list of 17 becuase Wooster ended up winning by 10 in OT.

A ten-point overtime win is a closer game than a one-point win in regulation.

Agree - I should have included that game.  But even more to your point - I conveniently picked <10 point difference because there are many games in the 10-12 point difference and the "story" wouldn't have sounded as good. It is no different than a baseball analyst saying a batter is "3 for his last 15", which means he is also "4 for his last 16". Selectively picking statistics happens everywhere.
Not sure how 3 last 15 means he is also 4of last 16 but it could mean he is 3 for his last 100.

Because if the hitter was 3 for his last 16 (or certainly 3 for his last 100), that's the stat that they would mention.