MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[iwumichigander]

Agreed ScotsFan. They don't seem to be relient on one player like the other two schools I mentioned, although he seems to have the talent to be that. He techically never went Div. I, but it had to do with his grades, not his skills. Sounds like he was probably going to LaSalle if he was eligible.

He must be doing something right. He only played half a season as a freshman, but was still the D3hoops.com Freshman of the Year. And he was named his conference's player of the year this year despite not playing until the last game of December.

Call me naïve.  He had the skills but not the grades to go Div. 1.  Not the D3 I know.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=639.3360
Here is a story D3Hoops.com did on Walton-Moss last year.  Does he have D1 skills - IMHO seeing him only once in person - yes.  Can you defend him? Also, yes if you have the right on the ball one on one defender.

Defensively, Cabrini I saw last year very comparable to Wooster.  It should be a battle.

[ScotsFan]

Cabrini coach comments from last match-up against wooster.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ST1V67MPTI

Love hearing Coach Kahn's description of the atmosphere being unlike anything he's ever seen at the DIII level!  He mentioned the bag pipers and then he mentioned when he was trying to rally his team and then he has to go up against 3000 fans trying to rally the home team and its like 3000 against 1.  Let's hope for some more of that type of rallying from the home fans this weekend!   

[smedindy]

This from the Princeton Review:

The average SAT score for an incoming Cabrini student is a combined Math and Verbal score of 935.

Unbelievable.  I just don't know what to say, except that other websites also indicate that this school must be a total joke.  Here's the link to the webpage:

http://www.princetonreview.com/schools/college/CollegeBasics.aspx?iid=1023826

Well not everyone can be rocket scientists in high school. If their mission is to take those students and provide them with an education and get them to grad schools or high paying jobs, then more power to them. We shouldn't be so elitist as to think only competitive liberal arts colleges can turn out top quality graduates.

[Gregory Sager]

Smeds, if you really wanted to take a whiz in WooBoo's Cheerios, you would've added that Cabrini turns out more basketball referees than any other D3 school.

[WAlum]

This from the Princeton Review:

The average SAT score for an incoming Cabrini student is a combined Math and Verbal score of 935.

Unbelievable.  I just don't know what to say, except that other websites also indicate that this school must be a total joke.  Here's the link to the webpage:

http://www.princetonreview.com/schools/college/CollegeBasics.aspx?iid=1023826

Well not everyone can be rocket scientists in high school. If their mission is to take those students and provide them with an education and get them to grad schools or high paying jobs, then more power to them. We shouldn't be so elitist as to think only competitive liberal arts colleges can turn out top quality graduates.

I did not take his comment as an "elitist" one but rather I think he was making an observation about the ability of this DIII school to have a much larger pool of athletes to choose from compared to 99% of the others when the academic requirements to get in are lower than what exists at the D1 level.   I dont want to speak for him but that was my interpretation.


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[Mr. Ypsi]

This from the Princeton Review:

The average SAT score for an incoming Cabrini student is a combined Math and Verbal score of 935.

Unbelievable.  I just don't know what to say, except that other websites also indicate that this school must be a total joke.  Here's the link to the webpage:

http://www.princetonreview.com/schools/college/CollegeBasics.aspx?iid=1023826

Well not everyone can be rocket scientists in high school. If their mission is to take those students and provide them with an education and get them to grad schools or high paying jobs, then more power to them. We shouldn't be so elitist as to think only competitive liberal arts colleges can turn out top quality graduates.

I did not take his comment as an "elitist" one but rather I think he was making an observation about the ability of this DIII school to have a much larger pool of athletes to choose from compared to 99% of the others when the academic requirements to get in are lower than what exists at the D1 level.   I dont want to speak for him but that was my interpretation.

So, 99% of d3 schools have higher admission requirements than Stanford (or Duke or Michigan or Virginia or ...)??!!

Both d1 and d3 have a tremendous range of schools and with different missions.  There is a role for academically-elite schools.  There is also an important role for schools who take more marginal students (academically) and give them a future well beyond what they otherwise would have had.

I know essentially nothing about Cabrini (for all I know, that '97% ... employed or in graduate school' may include those who are flipping burgers, though some have jumped to the conclusion that they are all now professionals or at least 'high-paying jobs'), but no reason to put them down.  And 3% unemployed is pretty damned impressive, even if it does include those saying 'would you like fries with that'!

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[WAlum]

Ypsi - I was not giving my opinion.  I was explaining what I thought Wooster Booster in the original post, was intending to say.  I am sure he will explain once he gets on here.

[smedindy]

You have to have schools that accept the mid-level students around. It IS elitist to bemoan that they're in D3, when they are as much of D3 as Bates or Wisconsin - River Falls.

[woosterbooster]

Smeds, if you really wanted to take a whiz in WooBoo's Cheerios, you would've added that Cabrini turns out more basketball referees than any other D3 school.

What?  Cabrini has supplanted Wabash in the top spot?  But wait, surely this would lower their 97% employment rate...

Funniest remark I've ever seen on here, Greg.  But that would be Honeynut Cheerios...

[woosterbooster]

You have to have schools that accept the mid-level students around. It IS elitist to bemoan that they're in D3, when they are as much of D3 as Bates or Wisconsin - River Falls.

My post never mentioned athletic divisions.  It was strictly a comment on the admissions requirements at Cabrini.  If it's true that their average incoming student has an SAT score (verbal and math) of 935, I find that amazing.  I mean, half of the student body is then below that number.  Why, Sarah Palin would have been a catch for them.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It isn't like state schools in Division III have much higher acceptances based mainly on the fact they are state schools (though, St. Mary's (Md.) and others are honors schools so they are state, but have higher standards).

[sigma one]

Every college/university has a mission.  As long as they are fulfilling that mission, who are we to judge.  If you want to have a DIII for "high achievers" or "top SATers", then I thought someone already floated that ball some years ago when a few NCAC president snobs tried to gather together enough schools to be a "DIV" or whatever.  That proposal was rejected.  I don't know a thing about Cabini except that they are a school playing Division III basketball.  This, and I hope that NCAC College of Wooster beats them to confirm to those paying attention that young men from a conference made up of entirely Phi Beta Kappa institutions can play at a high level. 
     By the by, let's not get too uppity lest there be a full disclosure of the grades and scores of all athletes in our own conference. Cheers.

[ScotsFan]

Congrats to Doug Thorpe and Xavier Brown for making D3hoops.com All Great Lakes Region 2nd Team.  Thorpe had quite the breakout season going from 1st off the bench to being Wooster's leading scorer and making All-Conference and All-Region!

Also congrats to Andy Winters from OWU (1st Team), Dimonde Hale from Denison (2nd Team), Ikenna Nwadibia from Kenyon (3rd Team) and Scott Masin from Wittenberg (3rd Team) for being chosen to the All-Region Team as well!

The NCAC had the most representatives on the All-Region team with 6! 

[imderekpoe]

Congrats to Doug Thorpe and Xavier Brown for making D3hoops.com All Great Lakes Region 2nd Team.  Thorpe had quite the breakout season going from 1st off the bench to being Wooster's leading scorer and making All-Conference and All-Region!

Also congrats to Andy Winters from OWU (1st Team), Dimonde Hale from Denison (2nd Team), Ikenna Nwadibia from Kenyon (3rd Team) and Scott Masin from Wittenberg (3rd Team) for being chosen to the All-Region Team as well!

The NCAC had the most representatives on the All-Region team with 6! 

Winters was also the (very well-deserved) Player of the Year for the region.

[OldRedBuckeye]

Props to Dimonde Hale for the region honors. Tough to believe he and Longi and the rest of the Big Red were only good enough for 9 wins. But as I said before, Denison administration has to decide whether it wants to win or not and if so, whether the current coaching staff is going to help them do that. History clearly says no and that is difficult for this old Denisonian to accept.