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David Collinge

Oh, it's a shame the replay isn't available. It started at midcourt, where (evidently) a very hard screen set by (I think) Reuel Rogers sent a Wabash player to his knees in agony. No call on that, and Rogers goes into the lane, jostles with Marcus Kammrath for rebound position, then simply grabs him by the waist and hurls him to the floor, WWE-style. The Wabash announcers correctly described it as a takedown; "if this were wrestling, he'd have just scored two points." Rogers ends up on top of him, evidently going for the pin. Other Wabash guys intercede, small fracas breaks out but no general fight. Remarkably, Rogers is not ejected (but does get both personal and technical fouls), but Claude Gray is for coming off the bench, and DeWitt is for getting two T's while arguing with the refs about god-knows-what. Kammrath was also T'd up, according to the box score, but OWU did not get any free throws.

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Another episode of Hoopsville is slated for tonight and #15 Wittenberg MBB coach Bill Brown joins us along with the following guests:

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sac

Wittenberg's Bill Brown was on hoopsville, about the 35 minutes mark
http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

"DePauw's just better than us", quote for the type setters.

kenyonfan

Quote from: David Collinge on February 13, 2014, 06:49:46 AM
Oh, it's a shame the replay isn't available. It started at midcourt, where (evidently) a very hard screen set by (I think) Reuel Rogers sent a Wabash player to his knees in agony. No call on that, and Rogers goes into the lane, jostles with Marcus Kammrath for rebound position, then simply grabs him by the waist and hurls him to the floor, WWE-style. The Wabash announcers correctly described it as a takedown; "if this were wrestling, he'd have just scored two points." Rogers ends up on top of him, evidently going for the pin. Other Wabash guys intercede, small fracas breaks out but no general fight. Remarkably, Rogers is not ejected (but does get both personal and technical fouls), but Claude Gray is for coming off the bench, and DeWitt is for getting two T's while arguing with the refs about god-knows-what. Kammrath was also T'd up, according to the box score, but OWU did not get any free throws.

The full replay is here: http://new.livestream.com/wabashcollegelive/events/2765147/ with the events in question at around the 1:53 mark.

seinfeld

Thanks for this KenyonFan. Wabash has a perfect view of the Rogers take down from the baseline. I would like to think if the Refs saw it as clearly as the camera, he would have been ejected. Would an ejection mean an automatic one-game suspension? I have no idea.

I know Wooster has company with the other top teams in the NCAC right now in terms of struggling during the second half of their schedule in comparison to the first go around, but the point differential between teams Wooster has played twice this year is quite striking. There are six teams that Wooster has played a second time this year. In the first six games, which were all victories, the Scots were outscoring their opponents by 21 points per game, and five of the games were decided by 13 points or more. The next time Wooster played  these same six teams, two of which were losses, the Scots were outscoring their opponents by just over 5 points per game, and only one game was decided by more than seven points. So Wooster has seen a 16-point drop in their offensive output in comparison to their opponent. That is a pretty striking turn of events. If you take away the second Kenyon game, which was a 20-point win, the difference drops to just 2.2 points per game. I would say that part of this can be explained by the fact that some of the lower half teams are playing better now than they did before. But I also think Wooster has kind of hit a wall with their overall play, if not lost a little bit from where they were several weeks ago. The Scots need to make some adjustments to get better, as other teams are making adjustments to them and it's showing.

So based on the average margin difference of 16 points we've seen, Wittenberg should win Saturday by nine points, since they lost by seven points the first time :)

smedindy

Just saw it.

It was a clean, hard screen. CALL OUT THE SCREENS!

But then, disaster for OWU. I don't know what went through Rogers' head. Thankfully Wabash didn't retaliate more than it did. And I think DeWitt must have had issues all game with the refs - he's normally not like that.
Wabash Always Fights!

bufordscot

Quote from: seinfeld on February 14, 2014, 09:38:33 AM
Thanks for this KenyonFan. Wabash has a perfect view of the Rogers take down from the baseline. I would like to think if the Refs saw it as clearly as the camera, he would have been ejected. Would an ejection mean an automatic one-game suspension? I have no idea.

I know Wooster has company with the other top teams in the NCAC right now in terms of struggling during the second half of their schedule in comparison to the first go around, but the point differential between teams Wooster has played twice this year is quite striking. There are six teams that Wooster has played a second time this year. In the first six games, which were all victories, the Scots were outscoring their opponents by 21 points per game, and five of the games were decided by 13 points or more. The next time Wooster played  these same six teams, two of which were losses, the Scots were outscoring their opponents by just over 5 points per game, and only one game was decided by more than seven points. So Wooster has seen a 16-point drop in their offensive output in comparison to their opponent. That is a pretty striking turn of events. If you take away the second Kenyon game, which was a 20-point win, the difference drops to just 2.2 points per game. I would say that part of this can be explained by the fact that some of the lower half teams are playing better now than they did before. But I also think Wooster has kind of hit a wall with their overall play, if not lost a little bit from where they were several weeks ago. The Scots need to make some adjustments to get better, as other teams are making adjustments to them and it's showing.

So based on the average margin difference of 16 points we've seen, Wittenberg should win Saturday by nine points, since they lost by seven points the first time :)

I'll take the Scots plus 8 1/2

Gregory Sager

Quote from: seinfeld on February 14, 2014, 09:38:33 AM
Thanks for this KenyonFan. Wabash has a perfect view of the Rogers take down from the baseline. I would like to think if the Refs saw it as clearly as the camera, he would have been ejected. Would an ejection mean an automatic one-game suspension?

No, not unless the ref who called the foul reported it to the NCAC head of officials as a flagrant 2 technical, which is the tech assessed for fighting.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

goscots

I missed the Wednesday results so I'm late pointing out the four year seniors of Doug Thorpe and Scott Purcell experienced their 100th Wooster win (100-17). They represent the 12th consecutive senior class to achieve that feat.

ScotsFan

Quote from: seinfeld on February 14, 2014, 09:38:33 AM

So based on the average margin difference of 16 points we've seen, Wittenberg should win Saturday by nine points, since they lost by seven points the first time :)

This would be true if Wooster were playing a team outside of the top 4, but the reality is, Witt hasn't exactly been playing lights out as they've had two bad losses at home no less recently...

sac


nicevilledave

Quote from: goscots on February 14, 2014, 09:15:32 PM
I missed the Wednesday results so I'm late pointing out the four year seniors of Doug Thorpe and Scott Purcell experienced their 100th Wooster win (100-17). They represent the 12th consecutive senior class to achieve that feat.

To strap-hang on goscots' post, Wooster goes for their 20th win tonight and with a win, will have their 18th consecutive season of 20 or more wins.  Pretty awesome basketball program.  And, by my count, Wooster's next win will give Steve Moore 726 career wins.   

David Collinge

Quote from: sac on February 15, 2014, 03:06:29 PM
Kenyon 75 DePauw 67
Remember when the Top 4 were 24-0 against the Little 6? Yeah, me neither.

GoRed

While Denison spanked Wabash at Livingston 92-57, Kenyon kept up with them in the race for the fifth seed by downing DePauw in Greencastle 75-67.  The Big Red seem to have a leg up on the Lords and the Little Giants schedule-wise for the fifth spot, with their final two games home against Hiram and @ Allegheny.  Kenyon has games @ Witt then home versus Wabash.  The last game versus the Little Giants may very well be a fight for the 6/7 spots.

Oberlin had to win at Hiram today to keep their chances for the 8th seed alive and did.  Their last two games are against OWU and Wooster, but Hiram has Denison and Witt and Allegheny has Wooster and Denison.

ScotsFan

Quote from: David Collinge on February 15, 2014, 05:40:54 PM
Quote from: sac on February 15, 2014, 03:06:29 PM
Kenyon 75 DePauw 67
Remember when the Top 4 were 24-0 against the Little 6? Yeah, me neither.

Since beating Wooster DePauw is just 3-3 with those 3 losses coming against lowly Allegheny, Oberlin and Kenyon.  And two of those 3 losses came in Greencastle?!   :o. And how to you go from giving Witt an 18 point beatdown in Springfield to losing to Kenyon at home?  ???

T-minus 90 minutes to tip-off at Timken for Witt/Woo round 2!  GO SCOTS!!!  8-)