MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Gregory Sager]

Nobody should pay any attention to Massey this early in the season, Eco-manblue. There simply isn't enough data present after 5-to-7 games per team for Massey's HAL 9000 supercomputer to sort out anything useful.

Don't pass judgment upon Trine or anybody else this early based upon Massey numbers.

[smedindy]

Right. Teams aren't all 'connected' yet. Wait until December's holiday tourneys, then we'll see power numbers that make sense.

[sac]

Trine's low rating in massey was largely due to the very poorly rated schedule they had played up until last night.  Four of their previous 6 opponents are a combined 2-26.


Trine was the only MIAA to play last night yet everyone from the MIAA but Adrian moved up in massey's ratings this morning.  Ohio Wesleyan only dropped 4 spots. 

Trine +59
Albion +53
Hope +26
Kalamazoo +22
Alma +8
Calvin +2
Olivet  +1
Adrian -6

[Bishopleftiesdad]

So Eco, Using your logic. Trine beats OWU, so they must not be that Good. We would the transitory properties then be applied to the teams that OWU beat? I wonder who that can could be?

[David Collinge]

So Eco, Using your logic. Trine beats OWU, so they must not be that Good.

I did not see that logic in his post. I saw, rather, the opposite: that like other top 10 teams, a very good OWU team was upset by a team they should have beaten.

[Bishopleftiesdad]

So Eco, Using your logic. Trine beats OWU, so they must not be that Good.

I did not see that logic in his post. I saw, rather, the opposite: that like other top 10 teams, a very good OWU team was upset by a team they should have beaten.

ok David, thanks for that view point. I guess I can see that. 

[Eco-manblue]

Be careful about reading too much into my post.  As David noted, I was simply observing that OWU (the better team) fell to a lesser team.  Massey and the D3Hoops poll were used -- as what little documentation there is right now in the season -- to underscore the observation.  OWU and Wooster are far from being alone in this regard, hence, my comment: the plot thickens.  Overall, I'm excited about the fluidity so far.  I like the dymanic nature what's happening, finding it much more stimulating and intriguing than some previous years. 

[Gregory Sager]

You called Trine "lowly," and that's an adjective that's not warranted.

[Eco-manblue]

Indeed, the beat goes on -- last night rendered another example of an un-ranked team (Brandeis) knocking off a seemingly better, high-ranked team (Amherst) 78 to 58 at Amherst.

[Eco-manblue]

No offense intended.  Lowly was simply a short-hand for ranking position.  But thanks for pointing that out; I want to be precise, not unintentionally pejorative. 

[woosterbooster]

Is anyone getting the video from the Wabash-Wooster game?  They had the pregame thingy up a while ago, but then it went to just a blank black screen with no audio.  Sigh.

Finally the video came on, after missing more than half of the first half.  Why is it that so often it seems that they must re-invent the wheel?

The Wallies are in red shorts.  Seriously, I think it would be cool if they wore striped shorts, ala WW.

Wooster with a 12-point lead, but unfortunately I wasn't able to see enough of the game to comment on it.

[ScotsFan]

Final from Timken today:

Wooster - 81
Wabash - 52

Xavier Brown led the way today with 24 points and he was 11-19 shooting despite going 0-5 from deep but going 11-14 from inside the arc ain't too shabby. 

Evan Panell and Spencer Williams were the only other Scots in double figures chipping in 14 apiece. 

In other league action, OWU is trailing at home to Hiram 52-50 with about 14 minutes left in the game. 

Denison is hanging with Witt in Springfield trailing by 2, 48-46 midway thru the 2nd half.

Oberlin continues to surge and DePauw continues their losing streak as the Yeomen knock off the Tigers 67-63! 

Kenyon and Allegheny were off today...

[wooscotsfan]

Back from Timken and Good Summary of the Wooster win by ScotsFan

To add some color, Wooster won this game because they:
-Shot 46% from the floor and held Wabash to only 37%
-Wooster had only 5 turnovers while Wabash had 19 turnovers (net, Wooster took 11 more shots than Wabash and made a higher %)
-Scots made 8 three pointers vs. only 4 for the Little Giants

Great play in the second half where Evan Pannell got the ball in transition, drove the length of the floor and jammed home the dunk! 

Only negative was Dan Fanelly's leg injury.  He did return to the bench in the second half with an ice bag on his leg and he walked off (unaided) at the end.  Hopefully, some rest will help and Fanelly will be able to play next week.

Wooster is now 5-2, 2-1 NCAC.  Next game is at Pitt Bradford next week

GO SCOTS!

[David Collinge]

OWU held off Hiram, 92-84.
Wittenberg upset Denison, 59-57. Witt pulls out of the cellar, which now belongs to....DePauw. 

1. OWU 4-0
2. Wabash, Wooster, Allegheny 2-1
5. Denison, Kenyon 2-2
7. Oberlin 2-3
8. Hiram 1-2
9. Wittenberg 1-3
10. DePauw 0-3

Next conference games are on Jan. 3 (Wooster at Denison, Hiram at Wabash, Allegheny at DePauw)

[NCACfan22]

Oberlin continues a bizarre season...follows up a 40 point drubbing against Denison by coming out and beating Depauw. Poyle is one of the better guards in the conference, but he does not have much consistent help around him. Oberlin's center, Randy Ollie, did a great job holding Fernitz on Depauw in check today. He is the key to Oberlin's success in my mind, gives them their only real post presence. Looking forward to rest of the season!