MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ben shot up in high school - I think junior or senior year(s). He came to Guilford already tall. Tyler didn't grow at school... already tall his freshman year... I saw him that year and called the two of them the Twin Towers.

I wonder if he shot up senior year too late to really be noticed by recruiters?  Or perhaps the lack of any American Indian basketball stars?  I've read in several sources that (despite such obvious athletes as Jim Thorpe and Billy Mills) there is a feeling that Native Americans just don't really 'get' basketball.  Some scholarship university certainly dropped the ball on him!

Or maybe he was just like Jack Sikma.  Major colleges were all over him his senior year (before which he had not really adjusted into his height), but he had already given his word to Coach Bridges, and he kept his word.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Just an FYI, Ben is still playing... currently in the D League: http://dleague-dev.nba.com/player/ben-strong/

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.

Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4

You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016

Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Time	Guest	School
10:15am	Connie Tilley	St. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court
10:40am	Jamie Purdy	Peidmont (WBB)
11:00am	Keri Carollo	UW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
11:20am	Brent Pollari	Saint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB)
11:40am	Kent Madsen	No. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB)
12:00pm	Russell Loyd	Rose-Hulman (MBB)
12:20pm	Kevin Broderick	Nazareth (MBB)
12:40pm	Justin Scott	Arcadia (MBB)
1:00pm	Sam Hargraves	No. 12 Alma (MBB)
1:20pm	Lenny Reich	Mount Union (SID)
1:40pm	Maureen Webster	Clarkson (WBB)
2:00pm	Betsy Witman	York (Pa.) (WBB)
2:20pm	Sara Lee	Denison (WBB)
2:40pm	Klay Kneuppel	Wisconsin Lutheran (MBB)
3:00pm	Brian Van Haaften	Buena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
3:30pm	Sydney Moss	No. 1 Thomas More (WBB)
3:45pm	Aaron Rousell	Bucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach
4:00pm	Tim Shanahan	Staten Island (WBB)
4:20	Pat Cunningham	Trinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner
4:50pm	Bubba Smith	Sewanee (MBB)
5:15pm	Ben Strong	Former Guilford All-American
5:30pm	Kevin Connors	ESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus
6:00pm	Kristen Dowling	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB)
6:20pm	Allison Coleman	Sage (WBB)
6:40pm	Landry Kosmalski	Swarthmore (MBB)
7:00pm	Dave Niland	No. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB)
7:20pm	Aaron Galletta	Lasell (MBB)
7:40pm	John Baron	Gwynedd-Mercy (MBB)
8:00pm
8:20pm
8:40pm	Melissa Hodgdon	Wheaton (Mass.) (WBB)
9:00pm	G.P. Gromacki	No. 2 Amherst (WBB)
9:20pm	James Wagner
9:40pm	HAPPY HOUR	Free-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun!

We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
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[David Collinge]

Because this is East-West weekend, there's only three games tonight. Updates as available.

OWU 87, Wittenberg 66 ... dominant second half for the BBs
Denison 69, Oberlin 65
Wooster 101, Kenyon 88... COW blew open a 2 point game with 11 minutes left with a 22-6 run

1. OWU, Wooster...11-2
3. Hiram...7-5
4. Denison, Wittenberg...7-6
6. Oberlin...6-7
7. Kenyon...5-8
8. Wabash...4-8
9. DePauw...3-9
10. Allegheny...2-10

[David Collinge]

Allegheny 69, DePauw 64...Tigers just can't help themselves
Hiram 84, Wabash 72

1. OWU, Wooster...11-2
3. Hiram...8-5
4. Denison, Wittenberg...7-6
6. Oberlin...6-7
7. Kenyon...5-8
8. Wabash... 4-9
9. Allegheny, DePauw...3-10

[sac]

Hiram's shorts are like maritime navigation lights, you can always tell which direction they are going.

[Wooster Booster]

You have a better national perspective than I do, Dave, but I still think dominant big men have been few and far between. In the NCAC, I can't recall anyone dominating in the past 15 or so seasons, apart from the aforementioned Russ and Borchers, but I can recall numerous very tall young men who didn't amount to much.

Several years ago Wooster hosted a team in Timken Gym that had THREE seven-footers!  A set of twins, and a third guy.  They weren't stiffs, but certainly not all that good.  I think it was one of the Wisconsin state schools.

[David Collinge]

From the top:
OWU 72, Kenyon 57
Wooster 82, Denison 75
Hiram 72, DePauw 65
Wittenberg 63, Oberlin 43
Wabash 81, Allegheny 58

1. OWU, Wooster...12-2
3. Hiram...9-5
4. Wittenberg...8-6
5. Denison...7-7
6. Oberlin...6-8
7. Kenyon, Wabash...5-9
9. Allegheny, DePauw...3-11

[bufordscot]

 Nice balanced win for the Scots.

[David Collinge]

This week, OWU travels to Wabash and hosts Allegheny; Wooster travels to Hiram and hosts Wittenberg. Could we see some separation at the top? Given that the BBs have no games remaining against a team in the top half of the standings, these are must-win games for the Scots.

[imderekpoe]

OK, I can never remember the tiebreaker after head-to-head.  Is it record against the other teams from top to bottom?

[David Collinge]

Yes, I believe so; we've always called that "best win." What I am not sure of is what to do when teams below tied teams are also tied. A short time back, OWU and Wooster were tied for first while Hiram and Witt were tied for third. If those were the final placements, supposing OWU and Wooster both win out, who wins? OWU and Wooster split, OWU split with Hiram and swept everyone else, including Wittenberg, Wooster split with Witt and swept everyone else, including Hiram. No way to break that tie, short of a coin toss, unless you break the third place tie first, but I don't think the rules provide for that. Wooster needs to win out (because OWU will be heavily favored to do so) and hope Hiram remains ahead of Wittenberg.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/

[wally_wabash]

Yes, I believe so; we've always called that "best win." What I am not sure of is what to do when teams below tied teams are also tied. A short time back, OWU and Wooster were tied for first while Hiram and Witt were tied for third. If those were the final placements, supposing OWU and Wooster both win out, who wins? OWU and Wooster split, OWU split with Hiram and swept everyone else, including Wittenberg, Wooster split with Witt and swept everyone else, including Hiram. No way to break that tie, short of a coin toss, unless you break the third place tie first, but I don't think the rules provide for that. Wooster needs to win out (because OWU will be heavily favored to do so) and hope Hiram remains ahead of Wittenberg.

Maybe you would look at combined record vs. those teams that are tied?  So maybe OWU is 4-0 vs. Hiram/Witt and Wooster is 3-1 vs. Hiram/Witt, and OWU wins the tiebreak. 

Definitely seems easier to break that third place tie first (hopefully cleanly with h2h results).  I think that's the logical thing to do.  But if the h2h is split and you've got a situation where the 3rd/4th place tiebreak depends on the 1st/2nd place tiebreak and vice versa, well, then you've probably got to move on down the standings OR punt entirely on that particular tiebreak and look at records vs. teams starting at the bottom and working your way back up. 

[David Collinge]

Maybe you would look at combined record vs. those teams that are tied?  So maybe OWU is 4-0 vs. Hiram/Witt and Wooster is 3-1 vs. Hiram/Witt, and OWU wins the tiebreak. 

Definitely seems easier to break that third place tie first (hopefully cleanly with h2h results).  I think that's the logical thing to do.  But if the h2h is split and you've got a situation where the 3rd/4th place tiebreak depends on the 1st/2nd place tiebreak and vice versa, well, then you've probably got to move on down the standings OR punt entirely on that particular tiebreak and look at records vs. teams starting at the bottom and working your way back up.

I think what you say in the first paragraph is in fact how it works, but it doesn't really help. OWU is done with Witt and Hiram, and went 3-1 (lost to Hiram.) Wooster still has games with Hiram (tonight) and Witt (Saturday); if they lose either of them, chances of a first-place tie are remote, but if they win out, both will be 3-1 vs. Witt/Hiram (5-1 if you throw in Denison, swept by both OWU and Woo.) That's why OWU wants Witt to finish ahead of Hiram, while Woo wants the opposite.