MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[petewitt54]

Oh wow.  PennStghs, what are you talking about?  Where have you been?  Are you lost, sick, nuts?  I don't know how you can even THINK to say that Witt has no challenges ahead.  Night in and night out, we take people's best shots.  Now, being the #1 team in the d3hoops poll, as little as that means, people want to us even more.  The bullseye just got bigger my friend.  I can remember numerous times, teams playing their hearts out and taking us to the wire or just flat out beating us.  I can remember an over time game at Hiram and a loss at OWU when I was a frosh, a loss at Wabash as a sophomore, two losses to Allegheny my junior year.  Thats just off the top of my head.  So for you to say that there are no challenges is maybe the most outrageous thing I can think of.  Each game is a challenge and I can GUARANTEE you no one in the program is thinking of ANYTHING other than Earlham on Wednesday.  Man, think before you speak, please. 

And as for the lack of Witt posters, I read this forum on a daily basis, but beacuse I don't write anything, you think I'm not there.  I know of many people like me, who choose to lurk rather than post.  Is that a big deal? I don't think so at all.  When people stop supporting the program, then thats a problem.  Witt fans not posting on a message board is really of no consequence. 

GO TIGERS!   

[earlhamalum]

Congrats to Wittenberg!  Believe it or not when I speak of D3 Basketball to anyone outside of this board I have nothing but good things to say about Wittenberg and Wooster.  Those two programs put the NCAC on the map.  I will say I have more Respect for Wooster and Coach Moore then i'll ever have for Wittenberg and Coach Brown.  Not speaking bad about Wittenberg, it just speaks volumes for Coach Moore and Wooster.  

Petewitt54- I agree with you.  Teams are going to try to bring their (A) games against Witt.  2001-2002 Earlham beat #2Depauw who was (13-0) and playing at home, in O.T.

Granted this team doesn't have Travis Brett, but i wouldn't mind someone going 10-15 from 3 point land and ending up with 38 points. 

[David Collinge]

It's true...you know it's true!     (Had to try to beat smeds to this!)

Pete, I'm glad you're out there reading, as well as maybe hundreds of thousands of Quiet Tigers.  And that may suit some others who'd just as soon not hear about Witt.  But I'm interested in all of the teams in the NCAC, and all of the top teams nationally in D3, and I wish there were people who know what's going on with Witt who would contribute.  I feel well-apprised of Wooster, Wabash, Earlham, and (now) Denison, but as for Witt we get the occasional (and very welcome) musings of pennstghs, the rare (but usually valuable) posts of W4E, and your very rare contributions, and that just leaves me hungry for more.

I'd also love to hear more from pupfan, bishopsfan, any of our now-vanished Allegheny colleagues, anyone lucky enough to be associated with Kenyon College, and even Oberlin.  Call me greedy! 

Speaking of Witt4Ever, you don't seriously expect anyone to PAY to watch video of Wright State vs. Kenyon, do you? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

CCIW Chat had the same problems, with the twist that the school dominating the postings was also the one who was most reviled by the others (IWU in both cases).  

I don't go back far enough to know if it was a pre-existing problem, but I suspect it arose from the 'out-of-the-blue' disastrous season of 2001-02 (Scott Trost's first season after Dennie Bridges 'retired').  After 3 final fours in six years, we went 12-13 overall, 6-8 in conference - the first losing season in either category in essentially forever.  When we returned to championship status the next year, there were some of us who were overly defensive about being the 'kings' - I think a couple of students were worse than me in that regard, but they had the excuse of youth.  I long-since apologized to the board for 'rubbing-their-noses-in-it', but have NO excuse.

This year, both sides have greatly changed attitudes.  IWU IS a nationally-dominant team - we're now secure in it and the rest of the conference is proud of it (without ceding a thing - CardinalPride predicted nearly two months ago that NCC would beat us AT Shirk, and was widely mocked even by his fellow Cardinal fans, but, dang, they done do'd it!).  With the sole exception of Millikin (from which we still get occasional posts), we now have good representation from EVERYONE.

Mutual respect is the key - be proud of your school, but be respectful when they are up, and be proud of your conference when YOU are down.

[smedindy]

It's true...you know it's true!   

Damn you, DC! 

[scott_leo]

You're right David, this is Witt's first #1 ranking in the D3hoops.com poll.

Final from Dayton:
Wright State 88
Kenyon 47

Reasons why I like Wittenberg:

1. Mike and Rosy's Deli.....discussed at length earlier in the season

2. Easiest, and shortest, NCAC trip from Richmond

3. (Former?) radio personality Scott Leo

Billy, I'm only 3rd?!?! I guess I can't compete with Mike & Rosy's or a trip across I-70. I'll be calling Wednesday's game... are you making the trip?

Also, congratulations on your Nittany Lions having a great year... you called it!

[earlhamalum]

Mr. Ypsi- I think that was deap!

As for anyone else.  I believe the Heartland Conference is better than the NCAC this year overall.

Teams like Hanover, Bluffton, Franklin, Transy, Defiance are overall better than.  Witt, Wooster,Earlham,OWU, Wabash.  I would like to see Witt Vs Hanover, Bluffton Vs Wooster, Earlham Vs Transy, Wabash vs Defiance, and OWU Vs Franklin.

Where is the NCAC Vs Hearland Conference
kind of like   Big Ten Vs  ACC

It's true..... YOU Know it's true!!!!

[Indiana Jones]

I could not agree with Mr. Walker more.  As if being the 'evil empire' (seemingly) of the conference doesn't garner each team's best shot night in night out, attaching the #1 in front of Wittenberg should do the trick.  Would some of you insiders shed some light on the evil empire status?  Why doesn't Wooster qualify?

[earlhamalum]

Billy_pilgram, Please tell me there is something out there better then Earlham's Teamline... Rumor had it Earlhamalum was on there and made it better... that isn't saying much about what we have to listen to now.  Tell me I can listen to something better on Wednesday.  Show me the link that i can go to for the EC Vs Witt. game, other than Earlham's Teamline.   Thanks

[David Collinge]

EA, how about Witt 62, Transy 51, at Transy (Nov. 27)?

[wally_wabash]

by the way witt did receive the honor of being the top ranked team in the country at this point in time- i dont know how this will affect our team, personally i hope we dont get too over confident

Hmmmm....

...we have no opponents to look ahead to....

I think it's too late for that. 

[MoneyBallSTL]

I happened to catch the Wright State / Kenyon score on the ESPN bottomline tonight...again it makes me beg the question why the D3 vs. D1 blowout games get publicity on television but the marquis matchups still go unnoticed!!! I'm sure the NCAA nation would love to see how the top-25 matchups go each week in Division 3 way more than the routs!

[Mr. Ypsi]

w_w,

I'm PRETTY sure that pennstghs was only meaning the NEXT game would not interfere with that game, despite his clumsy wording.

OK, I've tried to do my job as NCAC peacemaker - I'm gone!

[billy_pilgrim]

Billy, I'm only 3rd?!?! I guess I can't compete with Mike & Rosy's or a trip across I-70. I'll be calling Wednesday's game... are you making the trip?

That's a respectable 3rd...it's one spot higher than your Buckeyes ended up in the final polls.

No, I won't be there Wednesday...I'll be watching a Big Ten battle for #1(0) in Evanston as my beloved Nittany Lions come to town.

Do you guys have a free Web cast though? If so, post the link. I'm sure earlhamalum would be grateful.

Billy_pilgram, Please tell me there is something out there better then Earlham's Teamline... Rumor had it Earlhamalum was on there and made it better...

Hey, you made it marginally better. I was able to actually follow the score when you were on board.

Let's be honest though, we all knew that the quality of broadcast would suffer without my smooth, sometimes smart ass, voice.

[wally_wabash]

I like the NCAC vs. HCAC thing.  I know you old time NCAC folks like the NCAC/OAC angles.  Most Wabash people still have a soft spot for the ICAC/HCAC...that was a helluva hoops conference in the late 90's.  

So...how did we do vs. the HCAC this year?  The results:

Bluffton 72, Earlham 62
Bluffton 76, Denison 53
Defiance 82, Oberlin 51
Franklin 91, Earlham 88
Wabash 68, Franklin 58
Hanover 62, Wabash 59
Hanover 62, Earlham 53
MSJ 66, Earlham 54
MSJ 79, Kenyon 69
Witt 62, Transy 51
RHIT is also 2-0 vs. the NCAC

So that's 8 up and 2 down (10 and 2 if you count RHIT) for the HCAC.  Ouch.  I almost wish I hadn't bothered with that.