MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[blindwatchmaker]

Of regional interest- Albion loses to Tri State 77-72 tonight.

[blindwatchmaker]

A history of the Wooster/Witt games...

http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/news/2005-06/woo-witt_rivalry.pdf

[billy_pilgrim]

Finally have some stats on that Witt/EC game.....

here's the key one: Witt wins the rebounding battle 39-20

both teams were made from the foul stripe tonight: Witt 11-23, EC 6-11.......that old Bob Knight rubric, make as many foul shots as your opponent shoots.......shouldn't happen on the road, right?

Russ had 17 and 8, Borchers had 11 boards and Bowen had a knockout 3

Gregory had 14 off the bench to lead Earlham, Jewett with 8.......Miller with foul problems had 5

[woosterbooster]

Some additional notes on the Wooster game:

Tim Vandervaart was all over the boards at both ends.  Good offensive rebounding, especially, requires desire and brains, plus some luck, and he had all of them working for him tonight, as he was continually in the right place at the right time.

While I often think that Wooster gets the worst of the officiating at Timken because they're not as physical as some teams, tonight I thought that Allegheny was the victim of a few non-calls on players going to the hoop.  Their coach got hepped up about it, but I thought he had a case.  On the other end, lots of bumping and holding fouls were called on Allegheny, fouls that are often ignored when some teams commit so many of them, but tonight they were called, and most looked justifiable.

Witucky didn't make several threes, but did hit 2-4.  Devin Fulk, besides going 3-3 from behind the arc also went to the basket a few times which is uncommon for him.  The first couple of times he didn't finish, but then he put a few in.  He may have a second career in line as a post player after his eligibility at guard is used up.

Cooper's shooting was, as usual, phenomenal.  There are so many parts to his offensive game that no defender is able to take all of them away.  I keep wondering how he would fare on a larger stage such as the Big Ten.  If he was a little bigger and stronger...

Wooster is shown in the box score as having only 8 fast break points.  Somebody help me out here on this: What officially constitutes a fast break?  Can there still be a defender between the scorer and the basket, or not?  Must the shot be scored from in the paint?  It sure seems to me like they had quite a few more than 4 baskets when running.

[woosterbooster]

I don't see anything wrong with Wittenberg putting the tickets on sale at noon on Saturday.  As was mentioned, if they waited until 4 or 5 PM they'd have block-long lines beginning at noon or earlier anyway.  They could have put them on sale Thursday or Friday, but I don't see how that would help Wooster fans, I can't imagine anyone making a separate trip to Springfield just to buy their tickets.

I talked to the Wooster athletic department today and they said they do not have any tickets.  Apparently it's not their policy to sell tickets for road games (except maybe tournament games, I don't know about that).

However, I was told that there will be a Wooster student bus or two.  Now, certainly they must have prepurchased tickets, otherwise it's a risky trip unless they leave in the morning.  The Wooster Downtown Rebounders apparently also have a bus going down.  I don't know if they've managed to cop some tickets, are leaving very early Saturday, or are just hoping for the best.

I with Clear Picture cable would go down there and televise this game.  But then, that wouldn't do me any good since I dumped them for Dishnetwork a year ago. 

[Pat Coleman]

I wouldn't trust fast break points in a box score. The mechanics of noting that in the stat software means you have to hit a key right after the basket to get it denoted and it's often forgotten, especially considering the rush statkeepers are in after a fast break.

[Pat Coleman]

Programming note

Saturday's game between No. 1 Wittenberg and No. 2 Wooster will be broadcast live by D3hoopsNet on Broadcastmonsters.com.

Pat Coleman and Lenny Reich will be on the call. Pregame show at 7:15 p.m. ET.

[imderekpoe]

Of regional interest- Albion loses to Tri State 77-72 tonight.

Note that as Tri-State is year 2 of the 4-year NCAA provisional period, they do not count as a regional opponent for Albion.  As such, this game is not considered in any was as a primary criteria for rankings, selection to the tourney or for seeding purposes!  (It would count only as a secondary criteria in overall w-l percentage.)

[smedindy]

Pat's right about fast break points, you have to remember to hit a "Z" instead of a "G" in order for it to count as a fast break.

Many D-1 schools don't even do it. Heck, when Purdue's mens team had a home game at the same time they went to the Rose Bowl, the Wabash stat crew went up to work the computer, and our SID used the fast break code, and the Purdue SID had never heard of it before!

Also, we're pretty persnickety about fast break points. Wooster plays at such a fast pace at times, it seems like they may get a lot of breaks, but fast breaks, to me, are odd man rushes (hockey term) that result in hoops.

[smedindy]

Lyttle and Zimmer had foul trouble, which hurt big time. Yes, some calls were questionable, but others were not. The free throw shooting hurt Wabash, and the fact that most of their 17 turnovers were unforced (OWU had just four steals).

[smedindy]

About the Witt / Earlham refs - well it was Chuck Docken's crew.

You know what, if a crew of Docken, Vitt and Trout ever officiated an NCAC game together - I'd go down and dress the entire JV because you may need them. Either everyone will foul out or everyone would get hurt from no calls.

[sac]

Programming note

Saturday's game between No. 1 Wittenberg and No. 2 Wooster will be broadcast live by D3hoopsNet on Broadcastmonsters.com.

Pat Coleman and Lenny Reich will be on the call. Pregame show at 7:15 p.m. ET.

Got out of that trip to Williamsburg I see. 

Of regional interest- Albion loses to Tri State 77-72 tonight.

Note that as Tri-State is year 2 of the 4-year NCAA provisional period, they do not count as a regional opponent for Albion.  As such, this game is not considered in any was as a primary criteria for rankings, selection to the tourney or for seeding purposes!  (It would count only as a secondary criteria in overall w-l percentage.)

You Sir earn brilliant observation of the night.  I hadn't even considered this.........but your right in the D3 tournament eyes this is almost a non-game for Albion. 

[smedindy]

And right there, along with the NESCAC shennanigans, is what is totally wrong with this current system. Why shouldn't a loss to a weak opponent in February hurt you?

[sac]

Because they aren't D3 smeds

[smedindy]

It still should hurt - it still is a 'bad loss'. I feel the NCAA does this 'system' to make it easy on them - so they don't have to look at the D-3 contenders more than 5 minutes on what the printout says and the regional numbers. Argh!

Anyway, the Wabash game has caused me to become less than gruntled - double Argh!