MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Li'l Giant]

I wouldn't trust fast break points in a box score. The mechanics of noting that in the stat software means you have to hit a key right after the basket to get it denoted and it's often forgotten, especially considering the rush statkeepers are in after a fast break.

I know it's been a couple of pages since this discussion took place but you'll have to forgive me; I've been driving all over Texas the last two days.

I had the pleasure of listening to a very entertaining game between Concordia and Howard Payne as I drove back from Lubbock tonight. The radio crew was running down the stats at halftime and was incredulous that there were only 2 fast break points at the half. For a game that had a combined 221 points I think it's clearly like Pat is saying here.

[Titan Q]

I think Dauksas and Witucky are probably very different types of point-guards.  Current stats...

Dauksas, Illinois Wesleyan 16-3
14.2 ppg
6.6 apg
2.4 A:TO
2.6 rpg
.431 FG (81-188)
.452 3-pt (47-104)
.769 FT (60-78)


Witucky, Wooster 19-1
9.1 ppg
4.3 apg
2.6 A:TO
2.9 rpg
.424 FG (61-144)
.382 3-pt (34-89)
.605 FT (26-43)


Both are great players who play for top Division III programs.  Maybe they'll get a chance to face each other before they're done.


Dee Brown, Illinois 20-2
15.1 ppg
5.9 apg
2.1 A:TO
3.1 rpg
.379 FG (111-293)
.338 3-pt (54-160)
.740 FT (57-77)


A pic of Brown guarding Dauksas from earlier this year...

http://www.iwuhoops.com/illiniad.jpg

[smedindy]

I know it's been a couple of pages since this discussion took place but you'll have to forgive me; I've been driving all over Texas the last two days.

So THAT's why my karma has improved. 

[smedindy]

Seriously it does take an effort for the stats crew to do that - and D-1 stats crews don't take the time to do it either (I was trolling around the dregs of D-1 for no good reason the other day).

I think it's just a matter of training.

[Li'l Giant]

I worked CYO games as a scorekeeper when I was in high school. I did ONE hoops games and then stuck to keeping score for baseball games. I'm waaaaay too slow to do hoops. You guys that do that get serious props.

I know it's been a couple of pages since this discussion took place but you'll have to forgive me; I've been driving all over Texas the last two days.

So THAT's why my karma has improved.

That stings....you cut me deep, smeds.....deep. 

[DenisonFan]

DC:
Formato for POY??  Come on.  I sure hope that was a joke.

My vote still goes to Port if he can return and they go deep into the tournament.
Russ is my next choice.  The swing vote goes to which team goes further. 

Have they every had co winners??  Something to consider.

[waterboy]

Strangely enough, no, there have never been any co-winners in the NCAC.  The only co-anything was COY in 1998-99, shared by Steve Moore and Jeff Justus. 

That's nice Witucky is getting so much support in the online voting.  Maybe it will sway the committee when they actually select the winner at the Final Four.

[smedindy]

Why not Formato?  He's really coming on strong, lately.

Though I think Cooper or Brandon Miller or Russ are right up there and probably will get the nod, but Formato has had to be a one-man band since Yelvington got hurt. Without him, Kenyon is Oberlin, basically. That's a good endoresement for POY.

Still a lot of hoops to be played, though, before we settle this.

[DenisonFan]

I am pretty sure the POY will come from a top team.  Not one that is 6-14. 
Like someone said earlier, Formato is MVP material on his team not POY.

Speaking of MVP's.  Does anyone know why since Ghiloni showed up there has not been an MVP on any of his teams??  That seems strange to me seeing they had them for 100 years before he showed up.

[smedindy]

Maybe he thinks that singling out an individual player isn't best for the TEAM as a whole. Anyway, I've seen teams go with 'mental attitude' or 'spirit of the XXXX awards' as their big awards to players instead of an MVP.

[Kramer]

Coach Ghiloni isn't one for individual awards, I believe he feels that takes away from the team concept.  I may disagree with a lot of things he does but that seems okay as long as he's consistent in that approach.   

[DenisonFan]

Smed & Kramer,
OK, that works for me. 
I wonder if he gave back his "Coach of the Year Award"?

[Kramer]

DF, got me there, good comment!

[pennstghs]

well as an added nicety to wooster fans-i would plan on arriving at witt early like for the JV game as witt's student body should be strong and early in attendance-the hype for the game has reached a strong level today, with mentions and headlines in the local paper.

[ScotsFan]

Congrats to Kyle Witucky on being one of two PG's selected from DIII as a Cousy finalist.  Sounds like it is quite an honor just to be named a finalist. 

Also, there was an interesting article in the Daily Record today regarding that Springfield Sun report about James Cooper "pleading" to be admitted to Wittenberg following Wooster's win over Witt back in December.  Here's an excerpt from the article:

Cooper, angry over the report, denied it and said it won't ruin his homecoming on Saturday. He also said it's not something he will soon forget.

"It was low class to do something like that," Cooper said. "Most people knew it wasn't true, but I can't worry about that. It will just make me want to play even harder."

Maybe that reporter for the Springfield Sun  might want to think a little bit before he does any more reports on James Cooper.  It's not like Cooper needs any extra motivation when it comes to beating Witt, but it sounds like he's gotten some from that Springfield Sun article to say the least!!!