MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[smedindy]

It's just that what you think are critical decisions by Ghiloni are said with spite and malice, at times, and seem puzzling based on circumstance and happenstance.

Having seen them play - I say play the kids - play defense, and play a team game. Izzo is a nice player, but he hasn't played well of late and can be supplanted by the kiddie corps a lot of the time.

[earlhamalum]

DenisonFan-  It is hard to understand your perspective, because I think very few people in here really believe that you are a formal player.  Speaking of hitting your hand with a hammer... you have been hitting us with the same thing all year.  You have been blaming the Coaches all year long.  As an "Ex-player" you should understand there are a lot of factors that decide the out-come of a particular game. (Not one player shooting 2-11 or 11 players playing 16+ minutes)  You are not at practice and for all you know that Freshman could hit every shot he takes.
I played with a kid name Travis Brett... (some of you may remember him scoring 38 points against #2 Depauw a few years ago)  He was 10-15 from 3 point land.  He did that everyday in practice no matter who guarded him.  There were games where he went 1-8 from the field and didn't perform like that every game his senior year. 
I'm sure there are many factors that play into the fact he has Shot the ball 6 more times than Hern.  Coaches are no more perfect then players, and at the D3 level coaches can often be it Tough situation with their hands tide behind their back. (Not Brown of Moore..   

I honestly don't think you are an Ex-Player... I also don't think you're a father, but maybe a brother or Friend of one of the players.  Regardless I do not care, but if you are not an Ex-player don't be coming around here claming to me.  I have been around the NCAC now for 7 years, and spent 4 years working my ass off with tears, sweat, hard-work, and during those years I have tried to help build a program with Coach Justus being the front runner of Earlham success.  There are still a few guys on this team that I have played with. 
You are often very critical of players and Ghiloni.  Just a year ago they hosted a NCAC tourney game.  A few years ago they were going through coaches and players left and right.  Charles DeLacey was their only player.  I encourage you to stick around, I'd also encourage you to be a little bit more positive on your insight.  I think a lot of us feel like you can be a broken record... put the hammer down.  Sounds like after he weeded out certain players he has a nice group of kids that play hard.       

[DenisonFan]

Earlhamalum:
Thanks for the post.

I admit my delivery needs some work.

With that in mind I think I am going to sign off for this year.  Does it really matter if I am an alum or a friend or a dad or just a fan with some crazy opinions.

I will be back next year to spread more joy around the league.

I wish the best of luck to both Witt and Wooster and hope that one can carry the NCAC flag to Salem.

It's been fun.  See ya next year!!!

Bye Bye for now. 

GO BIG RED!!!!!

[Li'l Giant]

I don't think anyone said you have to leave. I think it does matter who you are; it impacts the perception and understanding of your opinions. It's one thing to be a fan with opinions. It's quite another to be someone with an axe to grind.

Again, I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think you should leave. It's not like anyone else comes on here regularly to talk about Denison. Just be honest with us.

[zosobob]

witt,woo,hope and bw would make a great sectional.
wonder where it would be held at?
devos?

[billy_pilgrim]

Posted by: Li'l Giant  Posted on: Today at 07:55:32 PM
I don't think anyone said you have to leave. I think it does matter who you are; it impacts the perception and understanding of your opinions. It's one thing to be a fan with opinions. It's quite another to be someone with an axe to grind.

Agreed. Couldn't be said better.

Look, I love reading about Denison. I love hearing reports from every game. It adds much more than stats. I wish you'd give a report from Wednesday's Earlham/Denison game.

However, rather than hearing any simple report on what Dension did or did not do well, it's just another rant against Ghiloni or some random bench player.



And in other news, I have taken to shooting free throws every day in hopes that the basketball gods might recognize my sacrifice and smile upon the Quakers. Today was my fourth day of my ritual. 94/100 for those scoring at home.

Actually Earlham shot better on Saturday at the line (16-22), but the one miss at the end of regulation and two big misses in OT cost them the win.

[woosterbooster]

DenisonFan -

Me, too, I agree, don't leave.  Nobody wants you to do that, and we'll all feel badly if you do.  Maybe you can follow Billy Pilgrim's example of shooting free throws for Earlham by instead shooting some threes in your yard for Denison. 

If Denison happens to make it to the final four of the NCAC tournament, and it's in Wooster, and you make the trip (as if you wouldn't), please come by and introduce yourself.  Do it anyway, even if Denison isn't one of the four teams.

PS - Maybe you Wabash guys can also follow Billy's ritual except to make it three-pointers.  Wabash's outside shooting looked awful against Wooster.  What I say is backed up by the numbers, but it was more than just that, the misses were mostly not too close. Inside, they did well, and would have done even better if they'd had some semblance of a perimeter game.

[wooscotsfan]

zosobob - your very first post on D3Hoops and you are asking about Hope's new gymnasium (Devos) in a NCAC room??  Hmmm....

Are you by any chance a big Hope supporter posting under a second (new) name?  

A sectional of Witt, Woo, Hope and BW would be a great weekend of basketball but I don't think Hope will host unless the other three teams each pick up another loss or two.  In the NCAA regional rankings this week, Wooster was higher ranked than Hope (before Hope's loss to Calvin this week) so the Scots would probably get the home court for the sectional instead of Hope IF both teams made it that far.  Check next week's regional rankings also because Witt and BW may jump ahead of Hope?

Other reasons why this sectional may never happen:

1.  Any one of these 4 teams could be moved to another sectional in the national bracket just to balance out the draw.   As an example 3 years ago, Wooster was placed in an east coast section of the bracket and beat Ramapo (NJ) in the sectional final to go to the Final Four.

2.  Any of these 4 teams could also get beat in the first or second round and not even make it to the sectional.  It would not surprise me to see any 2 of these teams having to play one another in the first or second round.  Either Wooster or Witt will be a Pool C at large team so that team could be placed almost anywhere in the bracket.  Even Hope and Baldwin-Wallace could be Pool C teams if they don't win their conference's automatic Pool A bid.

3.  IF 3 Ohio teams are all left in the NCAA tourney when the sectional sites are being set, look for the sectional to be held in Ohio.  It is hard to imagine that the NCAA would make 3 Ohio teams travel all the way to Hope for a sectional....but I am assuming that the NCAA is rational and that is rarely the case!  

Overall, this question about who hosts the sectional seems premature.  Hope, Witt, Woo and BW all have several games left to play including their conference tournaments which will play a large factor in determining the actual NCAA tournament bracket.

[smedindy]

Funny, at some times all Wabash has HAD this season is a perimeter game. Live by it, die by it, I suppose.

[Pat Coleman]

DenisonFan2 -

I really hope that you're not another D3Hoops poster having taken on a second identity.

I only have one person who has posted on from this person's IP address, for what it's worth.

[Pat Coleman]

It's quite another to be someone with an axe to grind.

Indeed. And I have warned this particular person twice about this axe, to which he appears not to respond.

[woosterbooster]

DenisonFan2 -

I really hope that you're not another D3Hoops poster having taken on a second identity.

I only have one person who has posted on from this person's IP address, for what it's worth.

That's good news, I'm glad to hear that.  Apologies to DenisonFan2.

[sac]

3.  IF 3 Ohio teams are all left in the NCAA tourney when the sectional sites are being set, look for the sectional to be held in Ohio.  It is hard to imagine that the NCAA would make 3 Ohio teams travel all the way to Hope for a sectional....but I am assuming that the NCAA is rational and that is rarely the case!  

Way to premature to talk about sectional pairings..........geez man we don't even know who's in the tournament yet or who they're playing in round one..

(but I know Hope will be playing a Wisconsin school)

[earlhamalum]

If the concensus opionion by my fellow posts feel I should sign off for good.
Please, run a quick poll.  Let me hear from you guys.  Simple stay or sign off and I will go with the majority.  And I promise I will not return under some other name.

DF- I think the poll says stick around for the rest of the season.  I am not going to beg you to come back, but it seems like you would be missed around here!

Billy_Pilgram- I think I'll stay way from the Free-Throw line, for the Good of the Quakers!

ScotsFan- You can practice Free-throws all you want.   You can't Simulate the Situation at the end of a game.  The pressure, the fans, the situation is something you have or don't.  You can learn from your mistakes... hopefully they are getting the Bad out of the way now... Hopefully waiting to step up come tourney time.  (Hope is for the weak.... but i'm still going to HOPE)

[bishopsfan]

I would also like to ask DenisonFan to come back.  We need perspective on the other teams in the league or this forum becomes nothing more then a Wooster post board.  My only thing is that this entire year you have stated that your comments are just "your opinion."  Well many of the comments that have made you so upset are just someone elses opinion.  They are really not personal shots at you.  Just a few thoughts. 

Again great win for the Bishops.  That win pretty much locked up a home tournament game probably against Wabash or Earlham.  Should be an interesting week though.