MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[imderekpoe]

Just curious, are tickets usually $8 at Witt??

[jscwittfan]

Just curious, are tickets usually $8 at Witt??

Yes, although I think that is higher than what it was in past years.

[David Collinge]

I just saw this over at CCIW Chat:

Zach Freeman is really a ton.  After 28 points and 10 rebounds last night, Zach is now averaging 19.7 & 11.7.  He is 46-68 (.676) from the field.  When he gets the ball down low, one-on-one, it’s a basket.  When he catches it 15 feet from the hoop, he can knock down the jumpshot or take it hard to the basket and score.  He will be one of the most dominant players in Division III this year and the reason Illinois Wesleyan will be able to compete with good teams.

Like any good Heisman campaign, it's good to make sure the voters notice your guy.  Q does an excellent job of keeping Zach Freeman on everyone's lips.  I thought it might be a good idea to start to get Tim Vandervaart's name out there as well, since if he keeps performing at the rate he's going now, he should get some All-America attention at center.  To that end, I've brought up the stats of the centers from the preseason All-America first, second, and third teams (the fourth team center, Jeff Stewart, plays for Muhlenberg, and I couldn't find a stats link for the Mules; and there was no honorable mention A-A center) in order to compare them to Tim.  I've also added Dane Borchers in this comparison (although he's listed as a post, he was in fact a preseason All-America [4th team] at forward), just for local interest.

Player-school...ht/wt...games played...minutes/game...PPG...FG%...Reb/gm (off, def)
Isaac Rosefelt, UST ... 6'9"/215 ... 2 ... 31.0 ... 19.5 ... .680 ... 11.5 ( 3.0, 8.5 )
Jason Boone, NYU ... 6'6"/257 ... 4 ... 26.0 ... 10.0 ... .579 ... 9.3 ( 2.5, 6.8 )
Zach Freeman, IWU ... 6'7"/210 ... 6 ... 34.8 ... 19.7 ... .676 ... 11.7 ( 4.5, 7.2 )
Tim Vandervaart, COW ... 6'6"/210 ... 4 ... 28.8 ... 22.8 ... .706 ... 8.5 ( 4.8, 3.8 )
Dane Borchers, WU ... 6'8"/215 ... 4 ... 30.8 ... 13.0 ... .500 ... 10.5 ( 2.5, 8.0 )

(Sorry, but I have not mastered the table feature just yet.) 

Clearly, Vandervaart is not out of place in this august assemblage, and despite being the smallest of the five, he leads the group in scoring, FG%, and offensive rebounds/game.  I don't know about the other centers, but Tim has had to face bigger, stronger centers in his last two games, and has racked up 54 points on 20/28 (.714) shooting, as well as 21 rebounds in those games. 

Tim's position on the roster is F/C, so I don't know if he'll be considered a forward or center for A-A purposes; but since he plays the center position, at least on the offensive end, I thought this comparison was apt.

[billy_pilgrim]

I have little to contribute as Earlham travels to Wooster on Saturday, but I do have one anecdote/bit of trivia that's been bouncing around my head the last few days as I've looked at D3hoops.com.

Averett beat those pesky Marlins from Virginia Wesleyan the other day, drawing front page honors. Averett was the last team that Earlham scored 100 points against, tallying 101 in a win in the consolation game of a tournament at Roanoke. On that day, Averett held a full practice in the gym a mere 90 minutes or so before tipoff.....I couldn't believe they stayed within 20 of Earlham that day considering how hard they were working.

Anyway, I just wanted to share a pleasant thought of Earlham actually scoring some points and blowing someone out.....because I'm not sure how often it will happen this year.

[TigerFan_1973]

hope everyone on here has a good season and we have some more diverse talking points instead of wooster/wabash chatter all season. thanks.

Hey now, it's not our faults that there aren't more Witt supporters like yourself adding to the conversation.  At least TigerFan_1973 joined us to bring in some more Witt perspective. 

I believe I heard my name mentioned.

I didn't discover these boards until tournament time last year but I am glad to be here earlier this year.

There's not a lot of people to talk to about D3 sports in the general population.  It is good to have you guys to talk with.

Last year was a great run in the tournament for the Tigers.  Good luck to all this season.

TigerFan_1973

[ScotsFan]

I didn't discover these boards until tournament time last year but I am glad to be here earlier this year.

There's not a lot of people to talk to about D3 sports in the general population.  It is good to have you guys to talk with.

Last year was a great run in the tournament for the Tigers.  Good luck to all this season.

TigerFan_1973

TF, that's why I like this site so much as well.  Most people don't follow DIII as closely as the regulars in here do.  Most people in and around the Wooster area wouldn't even know that the Scots are about to become the #1 team in the country if they didn't read the newspaper, and even then, they don't really follow the Scots other than wanting to know when the Witt game is and when the playoffs start.  That's one of the things that bugs me about this community is why they can't support this basketball program better?  I mean, it's like everyone in the community takes them for granted until Witt comes to town or until the playoffs start and then everyone comes out.  What I just find confusing is that you can't get a better entertainment value than dropping the $5 to go and watch a Wooster Basketball game.  I know that I shouldn't complain because the support that the Scots do get is better than over 95% of the other DIII programs in the country, but I just wish that these kids could be playing to crowds like they had the other night each and every game instead of just the ones that get the most hype.

[ScotsFan]

DC, nice job putting the comparison #'s out there.  I read TitanQ's post about Zach Freeman and I thougt to myself, he is really putting up some good #'s.  Of course I didn't even bother to look how those #'s compered to Timmy V's or any other preseason AA big men.  By looking at your breakdown, I think you can't be anything but impressed with the numbers that Vandervaart has put up early in the season.  I just can't get over how well he's done, especially in the last 2 games, against much taller competition.  If Vandervaart keeps putting up these kinds of #'s, I think it will be hard to leave him off of the AA list and I think he is making an early statement for NCAC POY consideration.

[woosterbooster]

I know this might sound silly on the face of it, and I'll reserve a serious opinion until I see the other NCAC teams in action.  But it just might be that Wooster has four of the best five players in the NCAC: Vandervaart, Port, Cooper, and Johnson.  Dane Borchers would, of course, be the other. 

I'm not argueing for this statement, or even putting it out there as my opinion, but an awful lot of the stars in this league graduated last season.  Daniel Russ and Brandon Miller from last year's first team.  Only Ben Chojnacki returns from that squad.  Would he bust into a team of  Borchers, Vandervaart, Port, Cooper, and Johnson?  Maybe, but I'm not sure. 

[smedindy]

Congrats to Oberlin, as they beat Case last night!

[imderekpoe]

And a nice win by Ohio Wesleyan at Capital last night!  The Bishops were led by Chojnacki with 19 points and 13 boards in their 81-71 win.

[Titan Q]

Clearly, Vandervaart is not out of place in this august assemblage, and despite being the smallest of the five, he leads the group in scoring, FG%, and offensive rebounds/game.  I don't know about the other centers, but Tim has had to face bigger, stronger centers in his last two games, and has racked up 54 points on 20/28 (.714) shooting, as well as 21 rebounds in those games. 

Yes, but can Vandervaart dunk with a large picture of a Tiger right in this peripheral...I think not.


http://www.iwuhoops.com/zfdunk.jpg
(IWU vs Ohio Wesleyan)

[goscots]

How about a photographer looking down at him?

http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/photos/2005-06/season/pages/vandervaart_kenyon.html

I think so....

[Titan Q]

You got me there.

What about a dunk vs Hanover though?

http://www.iwuhoops.com/zf.jpg

(Last one to run out of dunk pictures loses, by the way.  And remember, A Dunk Only Counts Two Points.)

[woosterbooster]

Couple of questions that a few of the latest posts bring to mind:

1. Is there a way on this forum to have pictures show up within the posts?  Preferably as an uploaded file, but a link would be ok if it allowed the picture to appear directly within the message.

2. DC recently mentioned that he's not yet mastered the table function, and I've had trouble with it also despite lots of attempts and some skill at using tables in other venues (websites, MS Word, etc.).  I'd like to be able to post lists of stats, or boxscores, and to keep their integrity, their spacing.  I've tried tables, the code function, using fixed space fonts (Courier), and nothing works without me manually adjusting the spacing, which takes lots of time.  Anybody an expert on this kind of stuff have an answer?

Thanks,
WB

[David Collinge]

Pictures are easy; you just put the url of a web-based picture between IMG tags (that is, {img} and {/img}, using square brackets.)  I'll demonstrate with a randomly-selected picture from an obscure web page:



I don't know how to put an uploaded picture into the body of a post.

As for table formatting, Old School is good at it; look at his post # 132 on the National Pick 'Em League board.  You can use the 'quote' feature to see the coding behing the table; I'm just too lazy to copy it for something as quickly prepared as my center comparison.