MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[TigerFan_1973]

Wittenberg has had 51 straight non-losing seasons.  Ergo, all of their fans are fair-weather fans. 

Hardee har.

Go Tigers!

[ScotsFan]

Welcome to the board hodg.  Some new Denison flavor to add to the mix. 

I would agree that Hodgkinson is definately in the mix for POY honors.  He's leading the league in scoring at 20.1 ppg.  That said, I think it's still Cooper's to lose.  Although, Tom Port has been coming on of late and looking at the NCAC stats page, one could make a solid argument that he should be the NCAC POY and one could make a solid argument forTim Vandervaart to be in the discussion as well. 

As for Port, he is among the leaders in every major statistical category except steals.  He's currently 3rd in the league in scoring at 17.1 ppg behind Hodgkinson and Cooper (Vandervaart is 8th).  He's 12th in the league in rebounding.  Vandervaart is 2nd and Hodgkinson is 17th.  Port checks in at 5th in the NCAC in fg%.  Vandervaart is 2nd, Hodgkinson is 3rd and Cooper is the only guard in the top 10 at 10th.  Port is also 7th in assists while Cooper is 9th.  Steals is the only category Port didn't make the top 10 in the league and Vandervaart is 6th in that category.  Port is 4th in 3 pt. fg% and 5th in treys made while Cooper is 3rd and 2nd in those categories respectively. 

If POY comes down to just the top scorer in the league, Hodgkinson is your man at this point.  But, if you're looking for overall game, I think it's a 3 horse race between Port, Vandervaart and the reigning NCAC POY, James Cooper.

[pennstghs]

of course you would say it comes down to those 3 players-they are all on wooster. i could argue that borchers deserves it as he is the hardest player to matchup with and you gamplan around stopping him.

[WillieBrown]

Wayyyyy too early to be talking about poy. We haven't even gotten halfway through the conference season. However, if Wooster wins the conference its Coop, if Wittenberg wins the conference then its Borchy. I'd say Hodgy wins it if Denison wins, but its Denison..........so I wont say that.
Go Tigres

[ScotsFan]

Wayyyyy too early to be talking about poy. We haven't even gotten halfway through the conference season. However, if Wooster wins the conference its Coop, if Wittenberg wins the conference then its Borchy. I'd say Hodgy wins it if Denison wins, but its Denison..........so I wont say that.
Go Tigres

I'm just trying to make some conversation, that's all.  We are over 1/2 way through the regular season as a whole, so I don't really think it's too early at all.  I will agree that if Witt ends up winning the regular season, Borchers will have to have a ton of consideration go his way for POY.

of course you would say it comes down to those 3 players-they are all on wooster.

Well, I wasn't just making my argument based on the fact that they are all from Wooster.  I was basing my argument on the statistics which are hard to refute.  I was also making a case for Tom Port because it seems that most of the POY talk gets thrown Cooper's way, and when looking at all of the statistics, Port's presense among the leaders almost every statistical category is hard to overlook.

i could argue that borchers deserves it as he is the hardest player to matchup with and you gamplan around stopping him.

No one ever said you couldn't make an argument for Borchers.  However, it could also be argued that Cooper could be the hardest player to matchup with and gameplan against as well.  Borchers is hard to stop down low while Cooper is hard to stop around the perimeter. 

[wally_wabash]

Sorry to break up the "which Wooster player rules the most" lovefest in here, but I stumbled across a pretty good article focused on D-I to D-III Birmingham Southern University.  It's brief, and is a pretty good read.  Enjoy:

http://tinyurl.com/ymtl92

[kiltedbryan]

Thanks for linking me to that article, Wally.  I'd give you a +K if I could.

[woosterbooster]

Wally -

Just to be upfront about it, you took another karma hit from me.  When the incessant snide remarks about Wooster, and their fans, stops, so will the negative karma.  It's gotten very old.

[wally_wabash]

Dammit...I forgot you can't take a joke.  At all. 

I'm resigned to the fact that my karma is going to take a hit whenever I post in this room (or even on a daily basis regardless of whehter or not I post anything).  The karma stat on this board is meaningless.  No accountability equals abuse of the system which in turn ruins any significance that the whole karma stat might have had.  It's a shame really. 

My advice is to thicken up the skin a little, WooBoo.  Loosen up, try not taking yourself so seriously, and try to have a little fun here.  This isn't Utah...it's Posting Up.  It's ok to joke around and laugh a little. 

[smedindy]

WooBoo - that was a joke, plain and simple. I thought it was a clever way to change up the discussion.

Thou needest a chill pill, declarest the Smed.

[division3hoops]

I just don't understand why it is always Wooster that the jokes are aimed at.  I don't ever hear jokes about Witt or OWU fans or anyone else from the conference.
Wally that was funny - I'll give you that.  But  maybe if you got off the "make fun of Wooster" train and changed up your style once...people wouldn't think you were so set out to smite Wooster.

[wally_wabash]

Wooster basketball, for better or worse, is the topic of conversation 99.4% of the time here.  If there was anything else topical when I post, there might be a changeup in the subjects of my satire.  I think I stumbled onto an irreverant and brief thread about Earlham earlier this week and made a Quaker joke...so it does happen occasionally when the current topic allows for it. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Thanks for linking me to that article, Wally.  I'd give you a +K if I could.

I, too, enjoyed the article, and I CAN and WILL give Wally the +k!

I wish Eastern Michigan would follow that route!

[roadtrip]

Wally & smeds...I for one think that we have too many Wabash guys trying to fill the bucket up and not enough  trying to play D....Since the team is so young and the season isn"t looking very good I would concentrate on the D side of the ball for the rest of the season....good teams win with defense so lets start setting the table for the future.....guards, forwards, centers, the clean up guys, everybody start playing D or start pickin D splinters out of your butt.

[smedindy]

Wooster hoop fans on this board are a target just like Wabash football fans over at that board. They're here - they're loud and they TAKE! IT! PERSONALLY! just like Benson and Stabler on SVU...

And since the needle will no doubt get a reaction - the needle is drawn against them.

Then there's me - I try to be an equal opportunity idiot.