MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[David Collinge]

I'll say this: Kenyon games are well worth the price of admission, and not just to enjoy that fabulous gym.

Um, aren't Kenyon games free?

...and worth every cent! 

[WillieBrown]

I cant believe I have to root for Wooster on Saturday.

[ScotsFan]

Billy Bowen got his nose STEPPED ON!  That sounds painful.  Apparently, there was no harm, because there was no foul. 

Was anybody in attendance for the Witt-OWU game?  I was listening to the game when this incident occurred and from the way the radio guy called it, it sounded as if it was pretty blatant.  I could also hear Brown and Artie and the rest of the Witt bench expode after there was no call.  Either it was a culmination of frustrations letting loose on the Witt bench or it was a pretty blatant call that was missed.  Maybe if anyone was there they could share their thoughts on the incident.  Not that it would have changed the outcome of the game by any means.  It just sounded like a cheap shot by one of the OWU players, that's all.

As for OWU, I bet Mike DeWitt must be kicking himself when he sees his team perform as well as they did last night after rather surprising losing efforts to Earlham and Allegheny.   One could use the 'looking ahead' excuse for losing to the EC, but I don't buy that.  Championship caliber teams don't fall into that trap.  I mean, how does OWU lose to an Earlham team that turns around and gets it handed to them by Wabash??? 

As it is, OWU could be sitting pretty right now after that impressive win last night and instead, they are still only tied for 2nd now with Witt and still have a major hill to climb out of because of those two rather inexpicable losses.  Even with a win over Wooster on Saturday, OWU would still have to win at both Wooster and Wittenberg and then have some help along the way to hope to gain even a share of the regular season title.  And that's taking into account that the Bishops don't lose any more games they have no business losing which isn't out of the question by any means.

[smedindy]

Especially when OWU kicked Wabash's kiester all over the floor a week ago. Basketball is a funny game.

[pennstghs]

ok guys, disappointing loss last night- ???i was in attendance-bout half full crowd there. the main thing is that wesleyan just showed up to play and completely put it to witt especially in the second half. As i said Ohio Wesleyan had to be contained from the 3 point line and definitely were not contained, and when Witt did have the perimeter defended OWU was able to get it inside for any easy basket. Witt just had no answer on offense as they shot horridly from the field, for one stretch they had no FG's in 5 minutes. Who would have thought that Rudegair would become a 3 point threat??

Next, in regards to that non-call on  Billy Bowen. There was a scrum under the OWU basket and what seemed to be a jump ball situation wasn't called but as Witt gained control and went downcourt a OWU player blatently stepped on Bowen and no call was received. The call that the bench erupted about was an out of bounds call which seemed to be deflectd off an OWU post player, but was called out on Borchers, and i think the frustrations of the game led to this boiling point, but Coach Brown would not let this go and called a timeout to give the official more of his thoughts and received a technical. Frustrating night all around.

As for SAturday it could be an interesting atmosphere at Delaware as there is the WItt-OWU women's game at 1 and then the Wooster-OWU mens game at 3. As i learned last night it is community night there (FREE ADMISSION), so im not sure what effect that will have on the availability of seating. thought?

[ScotsFan]

As for SAturday it could be an interesting atmosphere at Delaware as there is the WItt-OWU women's game at 1 and then the Wooster-OWU mens game at 3. As i learned last night it is community night there (FREE ADMISSION), so im not sure what effect that will have on the availability of seating. thought?

They had community night last year for the Wooster game and they had over 2000 in attendance (Branch Rickey holds 2300).  I'm sure that the inflated numbers were both a result of a higher attendance of locals in addition to the high number of Scots fans that follow the team on the road.  Needless to say, I do remember it being a rather boistrous crowd and the students seemed to be really into it and they probably will be out in full force again after that big win last night.

[wally_wabash]

Given the current standings, what do you think it's going to take to get the #4 seed?  8 wins?  7? 

Who's got the advantage for that 4th seed?  I hate to admit it, but as far as the schedule goes, I think the edge for the 4th seed belongs to Denison.  Denison has but one game left against Woo/Witt/OWU (@Witt in a week or so) and 8 games against the rest of the league, all of whom are very beatable by anybody else in the league.  If Denison stays hot, they've got the inside track for a home game.  Who would have thought after Denison's start? 

Wabash may have one of the tougher remaining schedules of any of the #4 seed contenders (which is everybody, BTW).  Wabash has four games left against Woo/Witt/OWU as well as road games to Kenyon and Earlham left.  It would seem that Wabash will have to sweep the non Woo/Witt/OWU games to get to 7 wins and my guess is that the LGs will need an upset of one of the top three to get to 8 given that Allegheny and Hiram both have the tiebreak advantage over Wabash. 

7-9 or 8-8 is what we're shooting for.  It feels like we're the NFC West of D-III.   

[pennstghs]

i would analogize it with the AL East of baseball haha- you have the Yankees and Red Sox battling year after year and every once in a while you get a Blue Jays or Orioles compete and surprise and you have your Devil Rays who never seem to set their ship straight

[sac]

i would analogize it with the AL East of baseball haha- you have the Yankees and Red Sox battling year after year and every once in a while you get a Blue Jays or Orioles compete and surprise and you have your Devil Rays who never seem to set their ship straight

So who's the evil empire?

[ScotsFan]

So who's the evil empire?

Well, IMO, I hate both the Yankees and the Red Sox pretty evenly and I'm sure that the fans of the other AL East franchises feel the same way.  So, I'd guess the feelings were pretty much the same from fans of the other NCAC schools towards both Wooster and Wittenberg.  In other words, in the eyes of the rest of the NCAC, Wooster and Wittenberg are both the evil empire. 8)

[WillieBrown]

i would analogize it with the AL East of baseball haha- you have the Yankees and Red Sox battling year after year and every once in a while you get a Blue Jays or Orioles compete and surprise and you have your Devil Rays who never seem to set their ship straight

but they always fall back in line come october

[diehardfan]

As an Oriole fan since I could walk, LOL! Man it sure has stunk to be us lately. I mean, if we could just have a winning season, that would be a start... unfortunately, we keep running against the brick walls of the two teams in the MLB that have the most money to throw at players. We haven't had a winning season in almost 10 years... which is scary, cause @ was in HS during our last playoff run! Gettin old! II guess its a good thing I didn't go to Allegheney or Kenyon (The NCAC schools I applied to) it'd be the same darn thing I've had to deal with in baseball only in my favorite sport!

So I guess the real queston is, where are Woo and Witt getting the money to throw at their players?  

[goscots]

If you look at it from the perspective of post season success and curses I would think that you would liken Witt to New York and Wooster to Boston (highlighted by the ankle sprain to Bryan Nelson and the shot clock buzzer in the semi final game).

[ScotsFan]

goscots, you may be on to something.  Much like the Babe was traded to the Yankees to start the 'Curse of the Bambino',  maybe Wooster has fallen victim to the same curse due to the fact that our beloved Coach Moore is in fact an almnus of our bitter rivals to the south.  Mabye we could call it the 'Curse of Wittenberg' or something to that affect!  

With that said and all kidding aside, we Wooster folk can thank our lucky (or cursed ) stars that we have Coach Moore at the helm of this program.  Even though he hasn't broken through with that elusive National Championship, the success and recognition that he has brought to the COW is definately worth it.   8)

[wally_wabash]

i would analogize it with the AL East of baseball haha- you have the Yankees and Red Sox battling year after year and every once in a while you get a Blue Jays or Orioles compete and surprise and you have your Devil Rays who never seem to set their ship straight

So who's the evil empire?

The correct answer is neither.  Both Boston and New York have won a championship in recent history.