MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[David Collinge]

The women's NCAC Player of the Week is Wooster's Beth Besancon Sidle.  That's the second PoTW for Wooster this season, while Hiram (and Wabash) have none.

[WillieBrown]

When I won a POTW a few years back they sent me a small plaque

[Li'l Giant]

When I won a POTW a few years back they sent me a small plaque

Just out of curiosity could you post a pic or something. I'd love to see what one looks like.

[gotigers]

hola. i am the same person as the last gotigers but my account got deleted or something idk. but anywho...if u wanna give me my negave 1 karma back thatd be cool. lol. but ya i wanna see a pic of your PoTW plaque.

i agree with wally that if its the ncac POTW then everybody in the ncac should be in the running for it.

this is the first witt woo game that ive missed since i was like 9 (im 20 now) i got to see the heart breaker earlier this season, very good game...even though cow won. oh how i WON"T miss the s*** on witt and f*** wooster chants.

does anyone else find it funny that woosters abrieviation is COW? i dont know about you guys but i've always had a good laugh whenever i saw a hat or shirt with that on it.

anywho...does anyone know if a live "tv" roadcast will be online of the game? that'd be sweet. i know they did it COW (snicker snicker ) was in springfield  but that'd be nice for me and the other fans who cant be at the game.

[WoosterFAN]

I mentioned this on the NCAC pick 'em board.  Does Wooster need to be fearful of the coming out flat since they have two game lead, playing at home and for once NOT defending #1 in the country??  In other words, WITT has more to gain than the SCOTS have to lose.

I honestly believe that if you cannot get up for this game, you might not have a pulse.  Can the home court make up the difference of Vandervaart out of the game?  I know we have about 15 fouls to use on Borchers but they could really beat up SCOTS inside.

Sorry, Do I have to wait until WED at about 10pm EST to start WITT/WOO talk?

[petewitt54]

The POtW award is not handed out properly in my opinion.  Its like giving a trophy to every one in a little league.  It should be handed out to whatever player on whatever team had the best week.  My senior year I had 19 against Denison and then 18 at Wooster to all but clinch the regular season title and they gave the award to someone from Oberlin (Brandon Crawford, I believe).  Not that Crawford is a bad player or wasn't deserving, but I guarantee you, the games we won meant more than the ones he played in.  I even think they went 1-1 the week he got it.That wasn't the only case either.  I can remember numerous times when Schwab, Bryan Nelson or someone else would have a monster week and th award would go to a guard from Hiram who had 15 and 12 in two games.  NOt bad stats, but not truly deserving.    Oh well, I'm not still bitter or anything.   

[wooscotsfan]

I mentioned this on the NCAC pick 'em board.  Does Wooster need to be fearful of the coming out flat since they have two game lead, playing at home and for once NOT defending #1 in the country??  In other words, WITT has more to gain than the SCOTS have to lose.

I honestly believe that if you cannot get up for this game, you might not have a pulse.  Can the home court make up the difference of Vandervaart out of the game?  I know we have about 15 fouls to use on Borchers but they could really beat up SCOTS inside.

Sorry, Do I have to wait until WED at about 10pm EST to start WITT/WOO talk?

WoosterFAN -- I hope that the Scots fully understand the importance of winning every remaining game until the NCAA tournament....starting with Allegheny on Wednesday night.

In 2004-2005, Wooster lost the NCAC tourney final and ended up on the road at Albion in the 2nd round of the NCAA's and lost on a questionable call to end their season.

In 2005-2006, Wooster lost to Ohio Wesleyan near the end of the regular season and lost to Witt again in the NCAC tourney final.  Result - the NCAA sent them on the road again and the Scots lost to Transylvania in the 2nd round again.

Given the excellent current records of other Great Lakes teams like Hope and Lake Erie, all NCAC contenders for post season play (Woo, Witt, OWU) need to win every remaining game possible.  Literally, one or two more losses by a NCAC team that qualifies for the NCAA tournament could mean the difference in either hosting a NCAA tournament game or playing on the road (a very tough challenge).

[gotigers]

I mentioned this on the NCAC pick 'em board.  Does Wooster need to be fearful of the coming out flat since they have two game lead, playing at home and for once NOT defending #1 in the country??  In other words, WITT has more to gain than the SCOTS have to lose.

I honestly believe that if you cannot get up for this game, you might not have a pulse.  Can the home court make up the difference of Vandervaart out of the game?  I know we have about 15 fouls to use on Borchers but they could really beat up SCOTS inside.

Sorry, Do I have to wait until WED at about 10pm EST to start WITT/WOO talk?

WoosterFAN -- I hope that the Scots fully understand the importance of winning every remaining game until the NCAA tournament....starting with Allegheny on Wednesday night.

In 2004-2005, Wooster lost the NCAC tourney final and ended up on the road at Albion in the 2nd round of the NCAA's and lost on a questionable call to end their season.

In 2005-2006, Wooster lost to Ohio Wesleyan near the end of the regular season and lost to Witt again in the NCAC tourney final.  Result - the NCAA sent them on the road again and the Scots lost to Transylvania in the 2nd round again.

Given the excellent current records of other Great Lakes teams like Hope and Lake Erie, all NCAC contenders for post season play (Woo, Witt, OWU) need to win every remaining game possible.  Literally, one or two more losses by a NCAC team that qualifies for the NCAA tournament could mean the difference in either hosting a NCAA tournament game or playing on the road (a very tough challenge).

thats a very good point. but i also hope that any team playing right now understands the importance of winning every remaining game...even if it wont help there position in the confrence tournament, it will help their confidence, and they will have a little momentum, which is very important. you go into a game defeated, you are defeated. that maybe one of the most over used phrases in sports but it carries soooo much truth in it. i remember in high school playing against good tteams, we couldnt beat tthem cause we expected to loose. confidencce plays a very large part when tourny time comes. thats where the upsets come from.

[David Collinge]

Interesting....

Wittenberg beats Wabash (7-12) and Denison (3-15) and vaults 99 points and 5 places (from #16 to #11) in this week's poll.    Only Chicago had a bigger jump, and all they did was beat #25 NYU (14-4) and ORV Brandeis (13-5).

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[gotigers]

raise your hand if you saw this weeks top three coming?

<hands all across the nation raising>

[earlhamalum]

petewitt54 and anyone else who cares- I feel for the most part P.O.W. is given to a variety of different players and teams throughout the year.  As a former POW in the NCAC and D3hoops.com POW (sorry just figured i'd bring a blast from my past into the equation) but I was surprised that I got it, because we went 1-1 that week against Kenyon and WOOSTER *top 10 team.   It is nice to know as a player that you need to win at least one game that week to get POW in the NCAC.  I personally feel like the NCAC spreads the love in giving that reward for the most part. 

P.S.   If anyone has anything to complain about it would be the numbers Dan Hodgkinson put up his Freshman year and your Senior year.   I'd say his numbers warrent your ALL NCAC 1st team award, but he had Denison across his chest and not Wittenberg! 

[wally_wabash]

The POtW award is not handed out properly in my opinion.  Its like giving a trophy to every one in a little league.  It should be handed out to whatever player on whatever team had the best week.  My senior year I had 19 against Denison and then 18 at Wooster to all but clinch the regular season title and they gave the award to someone from Oberlin (Brandon Crawford, I believe).  Not that Crawford is a bad player or wasn't deserving, but I guarantee you, the games we won meant more than the ones he played in.  I even think they went 1-1 the week he got it.That wasn't the only case either.  I can remember numerous times when Schwab, Bryan Nelson or someone else would have a monster week and th award would go to a guard from Hiram who had 15 and 12 in two games.  NOt bad stats, but not truly deserving.    Oh well, I'm not still bitter or anything.   

*applause*

That's my whole point.  To me, a PotW award should be awarded to the player who had the most outstanding week in the league taking into account both sheer stats and the magnitude of the games the player was in.  If the idea behind the award isn't to recognize the most outstanding player for that week but rather to systematically recognize each of the programs around the league in a weekly press release (which the NCAC does on a weekly basis on their webpage anyway for every team every week), then maybe the "award" needs a more appropriate name.  Just thinking out loud here...

I mentioned this on the NCAC pick 'em board.  Does Wooster need to be fearful of the coming out flat since they have two game lead, playing at home and for once NOT defending #1 in the country??  In other words, WITT has more to gain than the SCOTS have to lose.

If Team X is your big, hated rival then you get up to beat Team X regardless of the circumstance because the satisfaction of beating down your rival trumps pretty much everything else.  In this case, while Wooster has certainly created a cushion for themselves at the top of the league, it's still important to beat Wittenberg because everybody associated with Wooster wants to beat Witt at everything at all times.  Then of course you factor in the possible postseason hosting/seeding scenarios that could break away from Wooster with just one loss and you've got more than enough to play for I think. 

[smedindy]

I'm not surprised, DC, as there was a lot o' losin' goin' on...

[David Collinge]

I'm not surprised, DC, as there was a lot o' losin' goin' on...

Well, Witt passed Ohio Northern, who beat conference leading Heidelberg (15-4) and won at 12-7 Baldwin-Wallace.  ONU actually lost 25 points this week.  And they do still have a 17-point pasting of Witt on their curriculum vitae.  Witt moved up 4 places on the average ballot this week, while ONU moved down one spot on that hypothetical ballot.  How exactly does that compute?

Ninety-nine points is a heck of a large gain for a team that did nothing but fail to lose to a couple of crummy opponents, even when that team is a perennial Top 25 power like Wittenberg.

[WillieBrown]

P.S.   If anyone has anything to complain about it would be the numbers Dan Hodgkinson put up his Freshman year and your Senior year.   I'd say his numbers warrent your ALL NCAC 1st team award, but he had Denison across his chest and not Wittenberg! 

Hodge just gets love from all angles. I'm guessing Hodgy gets D3hoops.com NCAC player of the century, and a statue put up in a lawn somewhere. After watching him play on Saturday I'd also like to vote him as most likely to whine about a call, and most likely to throw a cheapshot. Pretty dirty play coming down the stretch of that game.