MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[goscots]

WOW - Ben Chojnacki out for the rest of his senior season. To Mr. Chojnacki and any Bishops fans who read this board you have my deepest sympathies. He has had a great career at OWU and was playing so well this season. This is not how a senior should finish. It should be on the court.

To the game tonight, I agree with DC in that the referees were not a factor.  In the end the Scots had two turnovers that just made it too difficult to overcome.

I thought Evan Will had the best defensive effort of his career tonight. He really fought to prevent the entry pass to Borchers in the low post.

The Black Out was really neat to see, especially with the yellow towels that were handed out. MAybe this can become a tradition for the Witt game.

[David Collinge]

If you want to be politically correct with your remarks, fine. But you're dead wrong.   

Well, I'm entitled to my opinion, as are you, although I won't suggest that you have an ulterior motive for your comments.  I post what I actually believe, and I don't much care for it when you suggest otherwise.

[smedindy]

DC - what were the Wooster students doing?

[smedindy]

The NCAC crew at Chadwick tonight was downright heinous. Ghiloni got a T, almost a second one, and Petty was seriously questioning their eyesight.

Denison played no defense at all in the first half, but finally caught on that Zimmer could possibly drop 50 on them if they didn't get some bodies on them.

The refs didn't call a lot of physical play early in the second half, and then called Wabash for fouls on the same stuff Denison was doing with no call. This crew had no clue, though. The game almost got out of hand a couple of times with bodies flying, shoves, pushes, and all kinds of stuff from both sides.

I do find it funny that a Wooster supporter is complaining about the refs. At Wabash, we get jobbed every time we play Wooster or Witt because the refs protect their Ohio buds. At least that's the feeling around here. So, um, all in the jaded eyes of the beholder.

But I send a big thumbs down to the Denison fans that were there. All I heard were negative comments and complaints about this and that and so.

[ScotsFan]

All I have to say is that I am glad I was a part of that atmosphere at Timken tonight!  Wooster's fans turned out in full force and the  'Black Out' turned out to be a pretty cool sight.

As for the game, hats off to Wittenberg for a very well played game.  Who would have thought with the defensive effort that Wooster put forth against Borchers, that the Tigers would come away with a win in Wooster???  Greg Hill was the man.  He just made big shot after big shot as did many other key contributers to this truly team victory by Witt.  For as much as Witt didn't play team ball in the game down in Springfield, they did just the opposite tonight.  It just seemed like Witt had an answer for every big moment in the game tonight and there's nothing you can do but tip your cap to 'em.  Every time the crowd would come to their feet in a critical moment when the Scots needed to get a key stop, Witt would silence the crowd making a basket as the shot clock would be expiring. 

While I'm disappointed in the final outcome, I am happy I was able to witness some quality basketball in such an electrified environment.  I'll go on record to say that I don't think I've ever heard Timken as loud as it was tonight.  I noticed on the box score that the attendance was listed at over 3700!  This has to be close to a record considering that the capacity is only 3400.

While I wish that the Scots could have come away victorious, they were beaten by the better team tonight.  I look forward to hopefully seeing these 2 teams square off for the rubber match in a few weeks!

[David Collinge]

DC - what were the Wooster students doing?

Repeating their favorite "cheer," which decorum prevents me from mentioning (I'm sure you know it without my reporting it), plus obnoxiously adding "you suck" as part of an oft-repeated pep band cheer. 

By the way, either the Wooster pep band was much, much better tonight, or my plan to sit closer to them to improve my audio reception actually worked, because I thought they did a good job tonight.

[ScotsFan]

DC - what were the Wooster students doing?

Repeating their favorite "cheer," which decorum prevents me from mentioning (I'm sure you know it without my reporting it), plus obnoxiously adding "you suck" as part of an oft-repeated pep band cheer. 

I really hate that cheer (if you really want to categorize it as a cheer) that the Wooster students insist on continuing.  Do they really think that they rattle the Witt players by constantly repeating that childish smut???  Personally, I think it does just the opposite which is why Witt seems to play out of their trees every time they visit Timken!  I just don't know why something can't be done to quash this?!?!    It really is in poor taste and does not reflect well on the college or on the community!

I did see a clever sign tonight which had something to do with  'The Witt Brothers: Dimm and Nitt'.  I got a chuckle out of that one.

[Li'l Giant]

I do find it funny that a Wooster supporter is complaining about the refs. At Wabash, we get jobbed every time we play Wooster or Witt because the refs protect their Ohio buds. At least that's the feeling around here. So, um, all in the jaded eyes of the beholder.

Keep an eye out on your karma. If Wally or I made a comment similar to this ours would end up in a free fall.

If you want to be politically correct with your remarks, fine. But you're dead wrong.

I've been hanging around this board a long time. Since DC was "Memphis" and Wally_Wabash posted under his real name. I can count on one hand the number of people who have called out DC. That is totally uncalled for. It's not like he's the only Wooster poster who has that opinion. see quote below:

To the game tonight, I agree with DC in that the referees were not a factor.  In the end the Scots had two turnovers that just made it too difficult to overcome.

[Pat Coleman]

Furthermore, I am certain that everyone sitting anywhere near me is in agreement with my opinion.   

That's not because you complained loudly, right?

Seriously -- I didn't see it at the ONU game and it doesn't sound like I see anyone else who sees it here.

I like it when a fan can be objective and not have to be a homer. Makes the board better. Homers could complain about officiating in probably every game in Division III, but that really takes away from the enjoyment of the game.

[sac]

Excellent ballgame at Wooster tonight (lastnight).  I was very impressed with the overall quality of play and of course the effort by both teams was as you'd expect in a big important rivalry game.  My hats off to both teams, they didn't disappoint at all.

Not having a dog in this race was very relaxing on my nerves in the final few moments which were incredibly tense I'm sure, but for me the game came down to 1:10 seconds and both teams would get their shot......Witt executed, Woo didn't.  As DC mentioned Witt's decision to foul with 10 secs left was near brilliance, doesn't happen enough with a 3 point lead in my opinion.  Basically Witt took the ball out of Wooster's hands at that point and put it on their own FT shooter, pressure yes but 3 pointers can't go in if the other team can't shoot one.

There were just a ton of clutch shots in this game, but Witt's gaurd #11 or #10 (can't recall) hit a 3 with no more than 3 or 4 minutes to go to put Witt up 6 which I thought was just huge.  It really meant the Scots would play from behind the rest of the way, the rally was gaining momentum at that point and it just seemed a minute or two before the lead would change........then he steps up and knocks that shot down.   Absolutely huge.

Witt wins the same way I see them everytime, they play solid D, rebound very well and just hit big shot after big shot.  They played like a team in need of a win tonight.

Wooster impressed me offensively....... Cooper, Port and Fulk are a very dangerous combo.  Many times when a team gets down big early they'll press and try to hard to make big shots.   Wooster didn't seem to do that, they sort of kept plugging away makeing play after play to get back in the game.  After the first few minutes when everything dropped for Witt, you sort of knew they'd start missing a few eventually and that allowed Wooster to start clawing their way back into it.

Inevitably I'll be asked to compare this to the Hope/Cavin rivalry......I just don't think that would be fair they are two separate animals.  I will say there aren't enough ambulances in West Michigan to handle all the cardiac arrests if either of our student sections adopted Woosters little cheer

Some things that will stick with me is the great crowd support, very loud and generally encouraging for Wooster, the black out was nice.  I'm pretty impressed a school the size of Wooster can get 3400 people out for a basketball game, that shows great local support.  At the moment Wooster finally tied the game it was pretty deffaning and it really did remind me of so many great Hope/Calvin moments I've seen late in games when one team makes a great play.  It made me miss the way Hope fans would rally their team in our old Holland Civic Center, arena's just aren't the same.  I would love to see a sectional at Wooster, it would be a great atmosphere.......the place could use a little orange. .........but I'd also love to showoff our DeVos Fieldhouse to DC.


PS  You had me Wooster untill your band played 'Hang on Sloopy' and your students actually did O-H-I-O.......what on earth?

[jscwittfan]

I'm sure this will be disagreed with, but I thought the officiating was as good as could reasonably be expected (did I agree with every call and non-call?  Of course not, but what's new about that) and did not materially alter the outcome.

You know, if you were sitting where you usually do, I don't know how you could even begin to venture an opinion on this.  The game appears almost sterile from so far away, just as it does when watching the televised replay.  Things look very, very different from courtside.  If you want to be politically correct with your remarks, fine. But you're dead wrong.

The NCAC officiating was, as usual, a serious embarrassment to the league and to DIII basketball in general.  I've been watching basketball for nearly 50 years and have never seen anything like what goes on in Timken Gym when a competitive physical opponent comes to town.  Invariably, any home court advantage that you would think Wooster would have disappears as the officials bend over backwards to accomodate the visiting team.  I've seen this happen over and over again during the last dozen or so years, and it was the same tonight.  Wooster got screwed, left and right, and it was a major factor in the outcome of the game.  

Furthermore, I am certain that everyone sitting anywhere near me is in agreement with my opinion.    

Once again, post Woo-Witt, and you're the only one putting an incredibly negative spin on it.  Last time, you knock a kid's family history of going to Wittenberg, and now you bash the opinion of one of the most respected people around here - a primary Wooster supporter, no less - simply because you can't handle the fact that the ball didn't bounce your team's way. 

We know, every game you think Wooster gets hosed by the officials, Wittenberg plays dirty, and the Scots are never primarily at fault for what happened to them in the game.  It gets old when these are the only comments you ever bring to the table.

I'm glad that people like DC and others can step back and look at a situation and judge it fairly, not through the perspective of one of those fans who gripes about everything that goes against their team simply because it went against their team. 

Go find yourself a damn tissue, and learn how to enjoy and look back on a great basketball game without having your damn black and gold blinders on for once in your life.  You want to talk about embarrassments?  Look in the mirror.

[Greek Tragedy]

VIA NATIONAL PICK EM BOARD  8)

Btw, I picked Wittenberg both times!  I got faith in the Tigers! lol

Well, if it's a go, then I'll take Woo...

Woooooooooooooooooooooster! (Pronounced incorrectly just to spite David)

Count me in for COW (i.e., Moooooooooooster - apologies, David! )

It goes without saying that I'll take Wooster...

I pitch Woo!

I'll (of course) take WOOSTER.

I'm taking Wooster,

Wooster's the one!

I'll take Wooster over Witt

First - I'll take the COW (I'm from Iowa after all)

BTW, I'll take Wittenberg   for fun.

I RULE!!!!! LOL 

[WillieBrown]

 Wooster got screwed, left and right, and it was a major factor in the outcome of the game.  

Furthermore, I am certain that everyone sitting anywhere near me is in agreement with my opinion.    

Why can't you just tip your hat and say that you got outplayed. Come on Randy

[zu1414]

Sounded like an incredible game. Witt-Wooster is fun for the whole conference.

The Terriers handled the pressure to hang on for a much needed win. We need to get through a tough week (Wooster, Witt) and win the last two games (Allegheny H, Denison A). Should be interesting.

In NAIA news, Walsh goes down to arch-rival Malone yesterday with the help of a Mount Union transfer!

[TigerFan_1973]

What a great game.

I guess it was a "Red-out" after all.

TF_73