MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[Matt Letourneau]

Catholic's leading scorer in the CAC era is John Douglas, with 1774.   Will Morley (1727), Pat Maloney (1648) and Matt Hilleary (1622) are right behind him.

Right now, Pat Dwyer has 880, and Scott Fumai has 823.  Fumai scored only 27 points as a freshman, Dwyer had 167.  Both should easily pass 1000 this season, barring injury.  Question will be whether they make the top 20--right now it would take 1147 to crack Catholic's top 20.  (Pat Satalin is 22nd, by the way).  #1 is Bob Adrian 2289.

[Pat Coleman]

I'm sure it's Goucher's David Clark. I have yet to see a player in the CAC that tops him for best in league history.

In fact, that reminds me of a loudmouth Goucher fan from this board in the late '90s or early '00s who was mouthing off that Bakari Ward was the best player in CAC history. Never mind that he wasn't even the best Goucher player in league history.

[ycpfinal4]

Chad McGowan is the beastliest player in the CAC right now.  Can anyone slow him down?

[sunny]

I'm sure it's Goucher's David Clark. I have yet to see a player in the CAC that tops him for best in league history.

In fact, that reminds me of a loudmouth Goucher fan from this board in the late '90s or early '00s who was mouthing off that Bakari Ward was the best player in CAC history. Never mind that he wasn't even the best Goucher player in league history.

Never mind that, for all of his scoring his junior and senior year (he didn't even start his first two years), he may not have even been the most important player on those teams.  He was the top scorer - and a great one at that - but (D-Mac might call me crazy), I always felt Mike Doyle's all-around game had a bigger impact on those teams.  Doyle could have put up a lot more points if he had been asked to.  Also, I'm not sure how good those teams would have been without Vince Williams at point.  Didn't have the numbers or recognition, but his defense was tremendous and he was a classic "game manager" at the point.  (I'm talking the 97-98 and 98-99 teams here; post-Durkovic.)

Unfortunately, the only time I ever saw Clark play was in an alumni game, but from all accounts he absolutely carried his Goucher teams to a lot of wins.  On top of that, he was the one player who clearly put Goucher men's basketball on the map in those early years not long after the school went co-ed.

[BisonFan]

Is he missing?

I havent seen him play this season, what up wit dat! He's a beast!

[kitchenrat]

I'm sure it's Goucher's David Clark. I have yet to see a player in the CAC that tops him for best in league history.

Clark was an amazing player. I still remember the show he put on in the kitchen in the '95 CAC title game. It was a sad day, for us.


D-Mac - What is Clarks all time total?

[bbsquared]

Mary Wash goes down to Shenandoah by 6 to end their season opening winning streak. Shenandoah now ups their record to .500. UMW was out rebounded and out shot. They also showed a marked propensity to stay off the FT line once again. That's just a reflection of the outside offense.

[Matt Letourneau]

What?

Well, goes to show...nobody's immune from a bad night or two.  Such is college basketball.

[mwcsid]

UMW rebounds with a 76-64 win at McDaniel
Justin Baker 22 pts, 9 reb
Jon Pierce 12 pts, 10 reb
AJ 11 pts

Eagles will visit Embry Riddle, who is ranked 6th in NAIA, in their next game, on Dec. 28.

[Matt Letourneau]

Well I'm a complete and total moron.

I just totally mixed up the Catholic schedule and missed the game tonight.  For some reason I thought it was Wednesday.  I made plans with my wife to go and everything.  Oops.  Granted, with a wife that's  8 months pregnant things are getting tougher, but that really annoys me.  I wanted to see this one.

Anyway, the game was tonight.  And the Cardinals beat Villa Julie, 77-67, led by Scott Fumai's 23 points and Pat Dwyer's 19 and 13 rebounds.  Perhaps most interestingly, given our discussion about Catholic needing a third scorer, Nick Olivero started--and chipped in with 16 points!  Could he be that consistent third option?  He's certainly played well in the last few games.  He is also a member of CUA's football team, which can't be overlooked because he joined the team late, after the season had already started.  So Nick is just now getting ramped up.

In terms of POY, by the way, Fumai is averaging 20.9 ppg, 7.7 rpg.  Dwyer's at 15.3 ppg, 10.4 rpg.  Lots of basketball left, but both those guys are worthy of serious consideration.  I think if you add McGowan and Williams, you've pretty much got your top 5 POY candidates right there.

This one was a wire to wire win...Catholic never trailed.  Cardinals are off until Jan. 3, when they host future Landmark Conference foe Susquehanna.  SU has been impressive so far and is off to a 6-2 start, so that should be a good game.

This time, maybe I'll get the date right.

[TheGrove]

Matt, I hope you do make that game - I'll be looking forward to hearing what you think of SU.

[mwgoonie]

Nice rebound by the Eagles. Now they are 7-1, 6-1 on the road, and 3-0 in the conference, niiiiiiiiiiccccceeeeee..... Still they have nothing but road games ahed of them. What a good team they are, we certainly dont have to worry about finding scorers, we have 5 people averaging double digits and a 6th nearly there( Whitowrth is at 9.5 ppg).  As long as they don't go completely cold, like the game vs Shenandoah, they float to the top of the CAC like the cream rises to the top of the milk pail. Well, you get my meaning.

Happy Holidays!

[Matt Letourneau]

I haven't seen them yet this year, but it would seem to me that the way to beat Mary Washington would be to take the ball to the hoop and pound it inside.

Actually, the Eagles really were not cold against Shenandoah--they shot 47%, 48% in the second half.   They were good from 3...9 makes at 38%.   They won turnovers +3.

Where they lost was rebounds (-6) and free throws.  The Eagles were 7-11, Hornets 20-26.  It looks Shenandoah basically kept taking the ball to the basket and taking advantage of Mary Washington's lack of size.

Now, I'm not saying that its going to be easy to execute that strategy, but from afar, at least, that looks like the way it can be done.  McGowan had a nice enough game against Mary Washington, but York got almost nothing else.  They still nearly won.  Will the Dwyer/Fumai/Wheeler group for Catholic fare better?  I do think Fumai and Dwyer are a more dynamic scoring duo than what York has, and Dwyer has made 11 3's, which means you can't leave him open at the top of the key.

It should make for an interesting matchup, but both teams have a bunch of tough games ahead. 

[kitchenrat]

The Holidays have come and gone and now it's time to wrap up 2006 with some basketball. Tonight at 6 the Spartans will take on Susquehanna followed by St. John Fisher and SUNY Cortland at 8. It will be interesting to see how well the other three teams are represented and if the new building is a draw during semester break.

[ycp]

Final from York..

York 84-Susquehanna 69

Details after the SJF - Cortland Game

Box
http://www.ycp.edu/sports/mens_basketball/2006/YCPMBB09.HTM